Talk:3083: Jupiter Core - Revision history

Equites at 22:33, 19 May 2025

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Broseph at 15:58, 3 May 2025

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172.71.146.226 at 14:36, 3 May 2025

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172.71.26.107 at 15:08, 2 May 2025

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141.101.98.176 at 14:40, 2 May 2025

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172.70.160.139 at 14:33, 2 May 2025

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SammyChips at 14:30, 2 May 2025

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SammyChips at 14:24, 2 May 2025

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SammyChips at 14:24, 2 May 2025

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SammyChips at 14:23, 2 May 2025

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 :::::If there’s two it’s a hexadecapus, three is a tetricosapus, etc. The number of heads is irrelevant.
 :::I looked it up, and it turns out we are both right… octopus is a latin word which was derived from the Greek. It was the only example I could think of from the top of my head. However, ‘data’ should be plural the same way flagella is plural of flagellum [[User:Broseph|Broseph]] ([[User talk:Broseph|talk]]) 15:58, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
 Can someone fix the formatting for the table, it’s annoying on mobile and shrinks the page because its 1 row [[User:Commercialegg|Commercialegg]] ([[User talk:Commercialegg|talk]]) 15:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
 : Nevermind, it wasn’t loading properly [[User:Commercialegg|Commercialegg]] ([[User talk:Commercialegg|talk]]) 15:37, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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 ::::It's 'octopussies'.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.139|172.70.160.139]] 14:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
 :::::If there’s two it’s a hexadecapus, three is a tetricosapus, etc. The number of heads is irrelevant.
+:::I looked it up, and it turns out we are both right… octopus is a latin word which was derived from the Greek. It was the only example I could think of from the top of my head. However, ‘data’ should be plural the same way flagella is plural of flagellum [[User:Broseph|Broseph]] ([[User talk:Broseph|talk]]) 15:58, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
 Can someone fix the formatting for the table, it’s annoying on mobile and shrinks the page because its 1 row [[User:Commercialegg|Commercialegg]] ([[User talk:Commercialegg|talk]]) 15:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
 : Nevermind, it wasn’t loading properly [[User:Commercialegg|Commercialegg]] ([[User talk:Commercialegg|talk]]) 15:37, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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 :::Also, it's "octopodes". ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.179|172.69.195.179]] 09:47, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
 ::::It's 'octopussies'.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.139|172.70.160.139]] 14:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
 Can someone fix the formatting for the table, it’s annoying on mobile and shrinks the page because its 1 row [[User:Commercialegg|Commercialegg]] ([[User talk:Commercialegg|talk]]) 15:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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 :Presumably it's because the joke rests on the fact that it's roughly spherical, so makes a decent analogy with a planetary core (and if you cut in to the avocado in the right way you could make it look sort of like one of those cutaway planetary layer diagrams). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.14|172.70.162.14]] 15:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
 : Gemini [https://g.co/gemini/share/3341d4e56595 seems to have] a better understanding of humor than I do: "The phrase highlights the mundane, everyday nature of an avocado pit and the unsophisticated way it's described ("hard ball"), making its inclusion as a "leading theory" for the core of a gas giant planet ridiculous and therefore funny. It's unexpected and breaks the pattern of the more scientific-sounding labels, contributing to the overall แหย่ (yae - playful teasing) tone of the strip." [[User:SethML|SethML]] ([[User talk:SethML|talk]]) 15:55, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
 Apparently, if Jupiter really were an avocado it would be about 1/4 less dense. Weirdly, googling the two gave me avocado density in kg/m^3, and Jupiter density in g/cm^3... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.13|172.70.162.13]] 16:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

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 ::: Umm... Isn't that that statement contradictory?  If it was being treated as a plural, wouldn't that say, "The data ... ''have'' been contaminated"? [[User:SammyChips|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips|talk]]) 14:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
 :::: Never mind.  Bad parsing on my part... [[User:SammyChips|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips|talk]]) 14:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
 :English is not Latin. Latin words work differently in English than they do in Latin. In English, "data" is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_noun mass noun] (a.k.a., an uncountable noun). For almost as long as the English language has existed, folks have been trying to "correct" people into using Latin rules of grammar, but that's not correct and never has been. [[User:Equites|Equites]] ([[User talk:Equites|talk]]) 16:43, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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 :Used with an information science perspective as it is here, it is usually used as a singular (https://www.thesaurus.com/e/grammar/data-is-or-data-are/).  At least, that's what I found while clicking around with one of my computer mouses :P [[User:SammyChips|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips|talk]]) 15:39, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
 :: From your source: "In academic and scientific writing, the word data is almost always treated as a plural word, as in ''The data collected by the research team suggest that the water supply has been contaminated''." [[Special:Contributions/172.71.144.179|172.71.144.179]] 18:49, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
-::: Umm... Isn't that that statement contradictory?  If it was being treated as a plural, wouldn't that say, "The data ... 'have' been contaminated"? [[User:SammyChips|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips|talk]]) 14:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
+::: Umm... Isn't that that statement contradictory?  If it was being treated as a plural, wouldn't that say, "The data ... ''have'' been contaminated"? [[User:SammyChips|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips|talk]]) 14:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
 :English is not Latin. Latin words work differently in English than they do in Latin. In English, "data" is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_noun mass noun] (a.k.a., an uncountable noun). For almost as long as the English language has existed, folks have been trying to "correct" people into using Latin rules of grammar, but that's not correct and never has been. [[User:Equites|Equites]] ([[User talk:Equites|talk]]) 16:43, 30 April 2025 (UTC)