Talk:3094: Mass Spec - Revision history

180.181.251.74 at 08:42, 6 April 2026

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	Given the history of dieting and 'health' programmes, it has to be significantly doubtful that a method being unsuitable, and even dangerous, would make it unpopular.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.229.21\|172.68.229.21]] 08:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)		Given the history of dieting and 'health' programmes, it has to be significantly doubtful that a method being unsuitable, and even dangerous, would make it unpopular.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.229.21\|172.68.229.21]] 08:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
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		+	I would've thought that they measured the terminal velocity. That'd be easier.[[Special:Contributions/180.181.251.74\|180.181.251.74]] 08:42, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

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	:::Well, for some objects this might work. For humans, not so much, as humans BREATHE and with it, change volume AND density. Anyway, Archimedes were already able to measure weight, because method for that existed since 3rd millennium BC, using balance {{w\|weighing scale}}s. He might've actually be submerging such scales in water as method to measure density, according to Galileo Galilei. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)		:::Well, for some objects this might work. For humans, not so much, as humans BREATHE and with it, change volume AND density. Anyway, Archimedes were already able to measure weight, because method for that existed since 3rd millennium BC, using balance {{w\|weighing scale}}s. He might've actually be submerging such scales in water as method to measure density, according to Galileo Galilei. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
	::::I suggest adding a few more measurements, "...then this'll give you useful density, volume, weight information ''and respiration rate''." ;) Of course, this is 'respiration weight whilst floating in water', which might acrually be lower than whilst standing/sitting in the dry, but only for those not previously traumatised by near-drowning, being a hydrophobe or unfamiliar with the the pleasures of a nice bath. Any of which might have been more or less of an issue in such a historic era. :P [[Special:Contributions/162.158.216.169\|162.158.216.169]] 23:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)		::::I suggest adding a few more measurements, "...then this'll give you useful density, volume, weight information ''and respiration rate''." ;) Of course, this is 'respiration weight whilst floating in water', which might acrually be lower than whilst standing/sitting in the dry, but only for those not previously traumatised by near-drowning, being a hydrophobe or unfamiliar with the the pleasures of a nice bath. Any of which might have been more or less of an issue in such a historic era. :P [[Special:Contributions/162.158.216.169\|162.158.216.169]] 23:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Given the history of dieting and 'health' programmes, it has to be significantly doubtful that a method being unsuitable, and even dangerous, would make it unpopular.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.229.21\|172.68.229.21]] 08:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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	::Well, technically, if you force a body to fully submerge in water (noting how much of a full bath/etc of water you spill), then allow it to float naturally (noting how much extra water you can put back in - or just do it the other way round, see how much water you expel when floating and how much additional water when dunking), then this'll give you useful density, volume ''and'' weight information. At least if what you're measuring ''does'' float (and doesn't dissolve, etc). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.58.130\|172.70.58.130]] 00:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)		::Well, technically, if you force a body to fully submerge in water (noting how much of a full bath/etc of water you spill), then allow it to float naturally (noting how much extra water you can put back in - or just do it the other way round, see how much water you expel when floating and how much additional water when dunking), then this'll give you useful density, volume ''and'' weight information. At least if what you're measuring ''does'' float (and doesn't dissolve, etc). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.58.130\|172.70.58.130]] 00:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
	:::Well, for some objects this might work. For humans, not so much, as humans BREATHE and with it, change volume AND density. Anyway, Archimedes were already able to measure weight, because method for that existed since 3rd millennium BC, using balance {{w\|weighing scale}}s. He might've actually be submerging such scales in water as method to measure density, according to Galileo Galilei. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)		:::Well, for some objects this might work. For humans, not so much, as humans BREATHE and with it, change volume AND density. Anyway, Archimedes were already able to measure weight, because method for that existed since 3rd millennium BC, using balance {{w\|weighing scale}}s. He might've actually be submerging such scales in water as method to measure density, according to Galileo Galilei. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
		+	::::I suggest adding a few more measurements, "...then this'll give you useful density, volume, weight information ''and respiration rate''." ;) Of course, this is 'respiration weight whilst floating in water', which might acrually be lower than whilst standing/sitting in the dry, but only for those not previously traumatised by near-drowning, being a hydrophobe or unfamiliar with the the pleasures of a nice bath. Any of which might have been more or less of an issue in such a historic era. :P [[Special:Contributions/162.158.216.169\|162.158.216.169]] 23:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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 I believe the first way to weigh someone was a balance beam and goats (Doctor office balance scale). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.223.147|172.71.223.147]] 04:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
 : I thought the original way to measure someone's weight was to shake their hand.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.5|172.70.85.5]] 11:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
 Interesting. Who am is quite munged. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.119|172.70.42.119]] 04:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

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 I believe the first way to weigh someone was a balance beam and goats (Doctor office balance scale). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.223.147|172.71.223.147]] 04:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
 Interesting. Who am is quite munged. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.119|172.70.42.119]] 04:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
-Was quite munged: "[[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.119|172.70.42.119]] 04:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC" [[Special:Contributions/172.68.245.164|172.68.245.164]] 04:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
+:Was quite munged: "[[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.119|172.70.42.119]] 04:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC" [[Special:Contributions/172.68.245.164|172.68.245.164]] 04:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
 Unlike a bathroom scale, this apparatus measures mass, not weight.  So apart from the obvious fact that it's not remotely sensitive enough, it would work on a space station. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.186.119|162.158.186.119]] 07:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

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 Took me about 10 goes to get to the page, and there's nothing here. And I can't even get to previous pages, they won't load! Is it broken forevers? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.154.176|172.71.154.176]] 04:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
 :The site has been behaving erratically for at least the last four comics, but this is the worst it's been. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.22.109|172.68.22.109]] 06:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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 :::Ya know, this all sounds more and more like a {{w|I_Put_My_Blue_Genes_On|short story by Orson Scott Card}}, played out with bits instead of germs. Maybe we should all be laying in stocks of goose quills, charcoal, and birch bark. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.146.129|172.71.146.129]] 14:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
 :::I added a "We Need Help!" message to the Admin Requests page, and it took me 39 tries for the comment to successfully post. (Try 6 to post this, BTW.) -- [[User:Dtgriscom|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom|talk]]) 01:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
 I believe the first way to weigh someone was a balance beam and goats (Doctor office balance scale). [[Special:Contributions/172.71.223.147|172.71.223.147]] 04:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

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	:That would measure volume, not weight. However, note that Archimedes principle was method to measure volume, which was not possible before, using already existing ability to measure weight. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)		:That would measure volume, not weight. However, note that Archimedes principle was method to measure volume, which was not possible before, using already existing ability to measure weight. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
	::Well, technically, if you force a body to fully submerge in water (noting how much of a full bath/etc of water you spill), then allow it to float naturally (noting how much extra water you can put back in - or just do it the other way round, see how much water you expel when floating and how much additional water when dunking), then this'll give you useful density, volume ''and'' weight information. At least if what you're measuring ''does'' float (and doesn't dissolve, etc). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.58.130\|172.70.58.130]] 00:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)		::Well, technically, if you force a body to fully submerge in water (noting how much of a full bath/etc of water you spill), then allow it to float naturally (noting how much extra water you can put back in - or just do it the other way round, see how much water you expel when floating and how much additional water when dunking), then this'll give you useful density, volume ''and'' weight information. At least if what you're measuring ''does'' float (and doesn't dissolve, etc). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.58.130\|172.70.58.130]] 00:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
		+	:::Well, for some objects this might work. For humans, not so much, as humans BREATHE and with it, change volume AND density. Anyway, Archimedes were already able to measure weight, because method for that existed since 3rd millennium BC, using balance {{w\|weighing scale}}s. He might've actually be submerging such scales in water as method to measure density, according to Galileo Galilei. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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	Why wouldn't they use the Archimedes principle? Lower person into a tub of water, measure volume of water that overflows, calculate weight of the water. That was known since 246 BC. [[User:Mschmitt\|Mschmitt]] ([[User talk:Mschmitt\|talk]]) 18:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)		Why wouldn't they use the Archimedes principle? Lower person into a tub of water, measure volume of water that overflows, calculate weight of the water. That was known since 246 BC. [[User:Mschmitt\|Mschmitt]] ([[User talk:Mschmitt\|talk]]) 18:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
	:That would measure volume, not weight. However, note that Archimedes principle was method to measure volume, which was not possible before, using already existing ability to measure weight. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)		:That would measure volume, not weight. However, note that Archimedes principle was method to measure volume, which was not possible before, using already existing ability to measure weight. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
		+	::Well, technically, if you force a body to fully submerge in water (noting how much of a full bath/etc of water you spill), then allow it to float naturally (noting how much extra water you can put back in - or just do it the other way round, see how much water you expel when floating and how much additional water when dunking), then this'll give you useful density, volume ''and'' weight information. At least if what you're measuring ''does'' float (and doesn't dissolve, etc). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.58.130\|172.70.58.130]] 00:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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	Why wouldn't they use the Archimedes principle? Lower person into a tub of water, measure volume of water that overflows, calculate weight of the water. That was known since 246 BC. [[User:Mschmitt\|Mschmitt]] ([[User talk:Mschmitt\|talk]]) 18:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)		Why wouldn't they use the Archimedes principle? Lower person into a tub of water, measure volume of water that overflows, calculate weight of the water. That was known since 246 BC. [[User:Mschmitt\|Mschmitt]] ([[User talk:Mschmitt\|talk]]) 18:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
		+	:That would measure volume, not weight. However, note that Archimedes principle was method to measure volume, which was not possible before, using already existing ability to measure weight. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)