Talk:3122: Bad Map Projection: Interrupted Spheres - Revision history

Promethean at 12:06, 29 March 2026

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92.17.62.87 at 20:35, 1 September 2025

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88.129.22.189 at 07:57, 1 September 2025

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2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254: at least it wasn't more informal and became this: "a joke on another xkcd comic about map projecting featured one that was literally smartassing"

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at least it wasn't more informal and became this: "a joke on another xkcd comic about map projecting featured one that was literally smartassing"

82.132.247.119 at 13:09, 6 August 2025

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2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651: ???

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???

2A00:F41:80A5:A62:0:59:BA67:7B01 at 02:43, 4 August 2025

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82.132.237.7 at 15:51, 3 August 2025

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These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Global question.

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Global question.

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 Where's Greenland? [[User:SubtrEM|SubtrEM]] ([[User talk:SubtrEM|talk]]) 20:00, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
 :It is on the backside of North America globe of course. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:49, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
+:: So then New Zealand must be on the back of the Australia globe. But where's Hawaii? [[User:Promethean|Promethean]] ([[User talk:Promethean|talk]]) 12:06, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
 My first edit! Hope it's ok! [[User:Jkusa.jr| Jkusa.jr]] 08:12, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

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	:I made sure to replace it with "wisecrack" since the incomplete description notice called for more formal writing. [[Special:Contributions/2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254\|2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254]] 06:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)		:I made sure to replace it with "wisecrack" since the incomplete description notice called for more formal writing. [[Special:Contributions/2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254\|2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254]] 06:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

−	The "landbridge" text leads to questions of America being one or two continents, or for that matter Europe, Asia, and Eurasia, as well as Asia/Africa.	+	The "landbridge" text leads to questions of America being one or two continents, or for that matter Europe, Asia, and Eurasia, as well as Asia/Africa. {{unsigned ip\|88.129.22.189\|07:57, 1 September 2025}}
		+	:Overall, that would be a matter of using the Afro-Eurasia/America/Australasia/Antactica version of the map. [[Special:Contributions/92.17.62.87\|92.17.62.87]] 20:35, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

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	:Is this the sole point of your confusion, or is that a more general observation that you tacked on to your initial question? Help us to help you. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.247.119\|82.132.247.119]] 13:09, 6 August 2025 (UTC)		:Is this the sole point of your confusion, or is that a more general observation that you tacked on to your initial question? Help us to help you. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.247.119\|82.132.247.119]] 13:09, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
	:I made sure to replace it with "wisecrack" since the incomplete description notice called for more formal writing. [[Special:Contributions/2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254\|2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254]] 06:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)		:I made sure to replace it with "wisecrack" since the incomplete description notice called for more formal writing. [[Special:Contributions/2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254\|2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254]] 06:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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		+	The "landbridge" text leads to questions of America being one or two continents, or for that matter Europe, Asia, and Eurasia, as well as Asia/Africa.

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	:As per the linked previous comic, "A Globe / Yes, you're very clever"... Not how I'd word it, but I can't see how it's not plain enough.		:As per the linked previous comic, "A Globe / Yes, you're very clever"... Not how I'd word it, but I can't see how it's not plain enough.
	:Is this the sole point of your confusion, or is that a more general observation that you tacked on to your initial question? Help us to help you. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.247.119\|82.132.247.119]] 13:09, 6 August 2025 (UTC)		:Is this the sole point of your confusion, or is that a more general observation that you tacked on to your initial question? Help us to help you. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.247.119\|82.132.247.119]] 13:09, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
		+	:I made sure to replace it with "wisecrack" since the incomplete description notice called for more formal writing. [[Special:Contributions/2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254\|2601:300:4083:1C70:F1B:D867:C7C7:F254]] 06:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

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	What does "smartass response" mean? This is a confusing explanation. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651\|2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651]] 03:34, 6 August 2025 (UTC)		What does "smartass response" mean? This is a confusing explanation. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651\|2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651]] 03:34, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
		+	:As per the linked previous comic, "A Globe / Yes, you're very clever"... Not how I'd word it, but I can't see how it's not plain enough.
		+	:Is this the sole point of your confusion, or is that a more general observation that you tacked on to your initial question? Help us to help you. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.247.119\|82.132.247.119]] 13:09, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

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	:Can anything ever be centred on a globe? To my mind, though, the visible bit of the continent is (at least in the centre of the view, before the spherical distortion and wrapping over the 'horizon' of each) positioned as taken from a flat projection (no idea which, without drilling into centre-to-centre distances and angles). Perhaps Randall went for artfully-placed spheres, ''roughly'' aligned to his source flat-projection of choice, then 'wrapped them around from where the actual sphere-nearpoint landed.		:Can anything ever be centred on a globe? To my mind, though, the visible bit of the continent is (at least in the centre of the view, before the spherical distortion and wrapping over the 'horizon' of each) positioned as taken from a flat projection (no idea which, without drilling into centre-to-centre distances and angles). Perhaps Randall went for artfully-placed spheres, ''roughly'' aligned to his source flat-projection of choice, then 'wrapped them around from where the actual sphere-nearpoint landed.
	:Also, estimations of where the flat-map centre of the continent lies can be difficult to agree. The exact mid-latitude and mid-longitide between its extremes, or a geometric 'weighted' average (of either the spherical-segment or flat map)? Is that of just the 'mainland' continent, or including all the way out to the remotest islands off the edge of an extended contintal shelf? Or just so that there is roughly equal expectations of land (major island chains counting more than minor peninsulae) hidden behind the western/northern limbs of the sphere as with the counterpart eastern/southern ones. Or just how it's placed so that it's a more aesthetic+recognisable view of the continent than if it ''was'' any given mathematically determined geographical centre at the face-on centre of the sphere? So many design/layout choices, and I'm not sure which one I'd choose if I came to doing it myself. I'd probably be more 'logical' than artistic, perhaps find the centre-of-gravity of the mass, but it might not look as good as just 'rolling the marbles around' until it looked neat. Or a bit of dry and precise analysis ''with'' artful adjustment, which is what Randall's style seems to be. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.237.7\|82.132.237.7]] 15:51, 3 August 2025 (UTC)		:Also, estimations of where the flat-map centre of the continent lies can be difficult to agree. The exact mid-latitude and mid-longitide between its extremes, or a geometric 'weighted' average (of either the spherical-segment or flat map)? Is that of just the 'mainland' continent, or including all the way out to the remotest islands off the edge of an extended contintal shelf? Or just so that there is roughly equal expectations of land (major island chains counting more than minor peninsulae) hidden behind the western/northern limbs of the sphere as with the counterpart eastern/southern ones. Or just how it's placed so that it's a more aesthetic+recognisable view of the continent than if it ''was'' any given mathematically determined geographical centre at the face-on centre of the sphere? So many design/layout choices, and I'm not sure which one I'd choose if I came to doing it myself. I'd probably be more 'logical' than artistic, perhaps find the centre-of-gravity of the mass, but it might not look as good as just 'rolling the marbles around' until it looked neat. Or a bit of dry and precise analysis ''with'' artful adjustment, which is what Randall's style seems to be. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.237.7\|82.132.237.7]] 15:51, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
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		+	What does "smartass response" mean? This is a confusing explanation. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651\|2603:800C:1200:596A:AB18:B71B:2BC5:5651]] 03:34, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Wait, maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like there's actually a good map idea here? If you made proper globes centered on each continent.... Does this exist? [[Special:Contributions/2601:241:8002:3E0:CE5:D9D:CF64:76FD|2601:241:8002:3E0:CE5:D9D:CF64:76FD]] 21:36, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
 :Well... that is what a globe is. You just turn it until it is on the continent you wish and look from the right angel ;-) Drawing a globe on a paper does nothing to remove the distortion from normal flat maps. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:49, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
 Not sure what the joke is!  Another dis of the concept of continents?   [[Special:Contributions/2A09:BAC3:9C1B:1955:0:0:286:B1|2A09:BAC3:9C1B:1955:0:0:286:B1]] 22:01, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

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	It seems as if the continents aren't centered on their individual globes. Should they be? [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 01:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)		It seems as if the continents aren't centered on their individual globes. Should they be? [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 01:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
		+	:Can anything ever be centred on a globe? To my mind, though, the visible bit of the continent is (at least in the centre of the view, before the spherical distortion and wrapping over the 'horizon' of each) positioned as taken from a flat projection (no idea which, without drilling into centre-to-centre distances and angles). Perhaps Randall went for artfully-placed spheres, ''roughly'' aligned to his source flat-projection of choice, then 'wrapped them around from where the actual sphere-nearpoint landed.
		+	:Also, estimations of where the flat-map centre of the continent lies can be difficult to agree. The exact mid-latitude and mid-longitide between its extremes, or a geometric 'weighted' average (of either the spherical-segment or flat map)? Is that of just the 'mainland' continent, or including all the way out to the remotest islands off the edge of an extended contintal shelf? Or just so that there is roughly equal expectations of land (major island chains counting more than minor peninsulae) hidden behind the western/northern limbs of the sphere as with the counterpart eastern/southern ones. Or just how it's placed so that it's a more aesthetic+recognisable view of the continent than if it ''was'' any given mathematically determined geographical centre at the face-on centre of the sphere? So many design/layout choices, and I'm not sure which one I'd choose if I came to doing it myself. I'd probably be more 'logical' than artistic, perhaps find the centre-of-gravity of the mass, but it might not look as good as just 'rolling the marbles around' until it looked neat. Or a bit of dry and precise analysis ''with'' artful adjustment, which is what Randall's style seems to be. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.237.7\|82.132.237.7]] 15:51, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

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	I love this! Bad Map Projection returns, now with all 7 continents on 7 globes. Still better than the Gall-Peters Projection! [[User:Strontium\|Strontium]] ([[User talk:Strontium\|talk]]) 19:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)		I love this! Bad Map Projection returns, now with all 7 continents on 7 globes. Still better than the Gall-Peters Projection! [[User:Strontium\|Strontium]] ([[User talk:Strontium\|talk]]) 19:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
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		+	It seems as if the continents aren't centered on their individual globes. Should they be? [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 01:57, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

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	:The largest is {{w\|Berkner Island}}. Mostly trapped in the RF-Ice Shelf, under normal viewing conditions and even many maps, but here represented with the whole of the Weddel Sea as if 'open' all the way through it, and not just featureless ice-sheet over both 'land' and watee. Over on the other side of Palmer's Land, as another notable feature (the characteristic long peninsula), is Alexander Island, and other semi-ilsand masses; up-of-centre on the left, as we see the Antarctic-Globe view. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.245.41\|82.132.245.41]] 14:12, 31 July 2025 (UTC)		:The largest is {{w\|Berkner Island}}. Mostly trapped in the RF-Ice Shelf, under normal viewing conditions and even many maps, but here represented with the whole of the Weddel Sea as if 'open' all the way through it, and not just featureless ice-sheet over both 'land' and watee. Over on the other side of Palmer's Land, as another notable feature (the characteristic long peninsula), is Alexander Island, and other semi-ilsand masses; up-of-centre on the left, as we see the Antarctic-Globe view. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.245.41\|82.132.245.41]] 14:12, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

−	I love this! Bad Map Projection returns, now with all 7 continents on 7 globes.~~<br>~~	+	I love this! Bad Map Projection returns, now with all 7 continents on 7 globes. Still better than the Gall-Peters Projection! [[User:Strontium\|Strontium]] ([[User talk:Strontium\|talk]]) 19:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
−	Still better than the Gall-Peters Projection! [[User:Strontium\|Strontium]] ([[User talk:Strontium\|talk]]) 19:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)