Talk:3157: Emperor Palpatine - Revision history

2001:4C4E:1C08:BC00:41F9:90A:BF7A:1727: top hat as opposed to a "funny" hat;

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top hat as opposed to a "funny" hat;

Barmar at 15:59, 22 October 2025

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82.132.244.183 at 09:10, 22 October 2025

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Xseo at 07:22, 22 October 2025

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82.132.236.174 at 21:39, 21 October 2025

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136.226.154.60 at 16:24, 21 October 2025

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82.132.236.174: 'accidentally' boinks you with a toy

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*'accidentally' boinks you with a toy*

92.239.132.210 at 15:34, 21 October 2025

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181.236.188.58 at 22:22, 20 October 2025

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2.98.65.8 at 22:13, 20 October 2025

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 What happens when he is five years old in canon Star Wars [[User:Mathmaster|Mathmaster]] ([[User talk:Mathmaster|talk]])
 :As a Youngling, he would obviously get a funny hat and a 'not quite so dangerous' training-lightsaber. At least for Jedi training, can't speak for Sith training, which probably goes with the exact opposite (funny shoes and a lightsaber that has no hilt?)... ;) 22:13, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
+::A top hat and an [[1433|infinite]] saber, damaging planets, asteroids, comets with its gamma rays. [[Special:Contributions/2001:4C4E:1C08:BC00:41F9:90A:BF7A:1727|2001:4C4E:1C08:BC00:41F9:90A:BF7A:1727]] 20:25, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
 I don't think the title text is sarcastic. Making Palpatine look older in Return of the Jedi allowed the actor's age to be very precise for the character in the 3 subsequent movies (while allowing the same actor playing the character). --[[Special:Contributions/181.236.188.58|181.236.188.58]] 22:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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	:Or maybe it's just that AI responses tend to read like a collaborative edit by various people each with their own particular obsession to obscure details...?		:Or maybe it's just that AI responses tend to read like a collaborative edit by various people each with their own particular obsession to obscure details...?
	:I'm not saying you're wrong to (presumedly) dislike the style and content, even the bits that I thought were both informative and interesting, but I don't actually know what bit(s) you might want to be different. You're welcome to make your own edits to your own satisfaction, however, in turn to be edited by those who come after you (or return) with their own stylistic/informational needs to fulfil. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.244.183\|82.132.244.183]] 09:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		:I'm not saying you're wrong to (presumedly) dislike the style and content, even the bits that I thought were both informative and interesting, but I don't actually know what bit(s) you might want to be different. You're welcome to make your own edits to your own satisfaction, however, in turn to be edited by those who come after you (or return) with their own stylistic/informational needs to fulfil. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.244.183\|82.132.244.183]] 09:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Couldn't the toddler stuff in the caption be accomplished using motion capture instead of prosthetics? Think of Benjamin Buttons. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 15:59, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

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	The current explanation reads like an AI response. [[User:Xseo\|Xseo]] ([[User talk:Xseo\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		The current explanation reads like an AI response. [[User:Xseo\|Xseo]] ([[User talk:Xseo\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
		+	:Or maybe it's just that AI responses tend to read like a collaborative edit by various people each with their own particular obsession to obscure details...?
		+	:I'm not saying you're wrong to (presumedly) dislike the style and content, even the bits that I thought were both informative and interesting, but I don't actually know what bit(s) you might want to be different. You're welcome to make your own edits to your own satisfaction, however, in turn to be edited by those who come after you (or return) with their own stylistic/informational needs to fulfil. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.244.183\|82.132.244.183]] 09:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

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	Just by film chronology (because the EU and extended-EU already dealt with it, but has been largely decanonised since then), the true age of any particular Palpatine clone (there still may have been other extant ones, as well as such dead failures as might remain) is probably not much older than Jango's initial contribution to the Clone Trooper project, the same process being used (though not also on Kamino), and so roughly as old as Bobba Fett would be at that point (if surviving the Sarlak, etc), having had little to no 'aging up' treatment. Though ''with'' the aging up, effective developmental age is accelerated, and with both the hit'n'miss nature of the emperor-cloning process and the need of Exegol's caretakers to always try to keep a not-too-decrepit clone at hand to become a ready vessel for Sheev's spirit to occupy, his body's true age is probably quite young even if his apparent age is far older. And, in terms of psychological age, he's probably ''exactly'' as old as if he had not jumped-bodies, or maybe that minus any 'gap time' that his Sithish force-ghost might have had to have spent in some form of stasis as the transplantation process was being put into effect. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.236.174\|82.132.236.174]] 21:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)		Just by film chronology (because the EU and extended-EU already dealt with it, but has been largely decanonised since then), the true age of any particular Palpatine clone (there still may have been other extant ones, as well as such dead failures as might remain) is probably not much older than Jango's initial contribution to the Clone Trooper project, the same process being used (though not also on Kamino), and so roughly as old as Bobba Fett would be at that point (if surviving the Sarlak, etc), having had little to no 'aging up' treatment. Though ''with'' the aging up, effective developmental age is accelerated, and with both the hit'n'miss nature of the emperor-cloning process and the need of Exegol's caretakers to always try to keep a not-too-decrepit clone at hand to become a ready vessel for Sheev's spirit to occupy, his body's true age is probably quite young even if his apparent age is far older. And, in terms of psychological age, he's probably ''exactly'' as old as if he had not jumped-bodies, or maybe that minus any 'gap time' that his Sithish force-ghost might have had to have spent in some form of stasis as the transplantation process was being put into effect. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.236.174\|82.132.236.174]] 21:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
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		+	The current explanation reads like an AI response. [[User:Xseo\|Xseo]] ([[User talk:Xseo\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

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	If he actually included a data point at Ian=74, Emperor=119 for Rise of Skywalker instead of just claiming "undefined", the trendline would have a positive slope...regardless of whether or not 119 is accurate, he clearly appears older than he does in Return of the Jedi, and even adding a point at (74, 89) would still result in a positive slope. However, I can get behind the idea of pretending Rise of Skywalker doesn't exist. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.154.60\|136.226.154.60]] 16:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)		If he actually included a data point at Ian=74, Emperor=119 for Rise of Skywalker instead of just claiming "undefined", the trendline would have a positive slope...regardless of whether or not 119 is accurate, he clearly appears older than he does in Return of the Jedi, and even adding a point at (74, 89) would still result in a positive slope. However, I can get behind the idea of pretending Rise of Skywalker doesn't exist. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.154.60\|136.226.154.60]] 16:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
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		+	Just by film chronology (because the EU and extended-EU already dealt with it, but has been largely decanonised since then), the true age of any particular Palpatine clone (there still may have been other extant ones, as well as such dead failures as might remain) is probably not much older than Jango's initial contribution to the Clone Trooper project, the same process being used (though not also on Kamino), and so roughly as old as Bobba Fett would be at that point (if surviving the Sarlak, etc), having had little to no 'aging up' treatment. Though ''with'' the aging up, effective developmental age is accelerated, and with both the hit'n'miss nature of the emperor-cloning process and the need of Exegol's caretakers to always try to keep a not-too-decrepit clone at hand to become a ready vessel for Sheev's spirit to occupy, his body's true age is probably quite young even if his apparent age is far older. And, in terms of psychological age, he's probably ''exactly'' as old as if he had not jumped-bodies, or maybe that minus any 'gap time' that his Sithish force-ghost might have had to have spent in some form of stasis as the transplantation process was being put into effect. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.236.174\|82.132.236.174]] 21:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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	My first thought when reading the alt-text was of the reincarnated leader of the History Monks in the Discworld, analogous to the Dalai Lama. The memories and personallity of an old man, in the body of a toddler. The wise old man is normally in control, but sometimes the toddler takes over, leading to him wanting a biccie. {{unsigned ip\|92.239.132.210\|15:34, 21 October 2025}}		My first thought when reading the alt-text was of the reincarnated leader of the History Monks in the Discworld, analogous to the Dalai Lama. The memories and personallity of an old man, in the body of a toddler. The wise old man is normally in control, but sometimes the toddler takes over, leading to him wanting a biccie. {{unsigned ip\|92.239.132.210\|15:34, 21 October 2025}}
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		+	If he actually included a data point at Ian=74, Emperor=119 for Rise of Skywalker instead of just claiming "undefined", the trendline would have a positive slope...regardless of whether or not 119 is accurate, he clearly appears older than he does in Return of the Jedi, and even adding a point at (74, 89) would still result in a positive slope. However, I can get behind the idea of pretending Rise of Skywalker doesn't exist. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.154.60\|136.226.154.60]] 16:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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	I don't think the title text is sarcastic. Making Palpatine look older in Return of the Jedi allowed the actor's age to be very precise for the character in the 3 subsequent movies (while allowing the same actor playing the character). --[[Special:Contributions/181.236.188.58\|181.236.188.58]] 22:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)		I don't think the title text is sarcastic. Making Palpatine look older in Return of the Jedi allowed the actor's age to be very precise for the character in the 3 subsequent movies (while allowing the same actor playing the character). --[[Special:Contributions/181.236.188.58\|181.236.188.58]] 22:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

−	My first thought when reading the alt-text was of the reincarnated leader of the History Monks in the Discworld, analogous to the Dalai Lama. The memories and personallity of an old man, in the body of a toddler. The wise old man is normally in control, but sometimes the toddler takes over, leading to him wanting a biccie.	+	My first thought when reading the alt-text was of the reincarnated leader of the History Monks in the Discworld, analogous to the Dalai Lama. The memories and personallity of an old man, in the body of a toddler. The wise old man is normally in control, but sometimes the toddler takes over, leading to him wanting a biccie. {{unsigned ip\|92.239.132.210\|15:34, 21 October 2025}}

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	I don't think the title text is sarcastic. Making Palpatine look older in Return of the Jedi allowed the actor's age to be very precise for the character in the 3 subsequent movies (while allowing the same actor playing the character). --[[Special:Contributions/181.236.188.58\|181.236.188.58]] 22:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)		I don't think the title text is sarcastic. Making Palpatine look older in Return of the Jedi allowed the actor's age to be very precise for the character in the 3 subsequent movies (while allowing the same actor playing the character). --[[Special:Contributions/181.236.188.58\|181.236.188.58]] 22:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
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		+	My first thought when reading the alt-text was of the reincarnated leader of the History Monks in the Discworld, analogous to the Dalai Lama. The memories and personallity of an old man, in the body of a toddler. The wise old man is normally in control, but sometimes the toddler takes over, leading to him wanting a biccie.

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	What happens when he is five years old in canon Star Wars [[User:Mathmaster\|Mathmaster]] ([[User talk:Mathmaster\|talk]])		What happens when he is five years old in canon Star Wars [[User:Mathmaster\|Mathmaster]] ([[User talk:Mathmaster\|talk]])
	:As a Youngling, he would obviously get a funny hat and a 'not quite so dangerous' training-lightsaber. At least for Jedi training, can't speak for Sith training, which probably goes with the exact opposite (funny shoes and a lightsaber that has no hilt?)... ;) 22:13, 20 October 2025 (UTC)		:As a Youngling, he would obviously get a funny hat and a 'not quite so dangerous' training-lightsaber. At least for Jedi training, can't speak for Sith training, which probably goes with the exact opposite (funny shoes and a lightsaber that has no hilt?)... ;) 22:13, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
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		+	I don't think the title text is sarcastic. Making Palpatine look older in Return of the Jedi allowed the actor's age to be very precise for the character in the 3 subsequent movies (while allowing the same actor playing the character). --[[Special:Contributions/181.236.188.58\|181.236.188.58]] 22:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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	What happens when he is five years old in canon Star Wars [[User:Mathmaster\|Mathmaster]] ([[User talk:Mathmaster\|talk]])		What happens when he is five years old in canon Star Wars [[User:Mathmaster\|Mathmaster]] ([[User talk:Mathmaster\|talk]])
		+	:As a Youngling, he would obviously get a funny hat and a 'not quite so dangerous' training-lightsaber. At least for Jedi training, can't speak for Sith training, which probably goes with the exact opposite (funny shoes and a lightsaber that has no hilt?)... ;) 22:13, 20 October 2025 (UTC)