Talk:3204: Dinosaurs And Non-Dinosaurs - Revision history

42.book.addict: fixing

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fixing

Zaphod Beebledoc at 21:20, 24 February 2026

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82.132.238.7 at 11:07, 12 February 2026

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Chrullrich at 10:57, 12 February 2026

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57.140.28.52 at 17:42, 11 February 2026

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81.179.199.253 at 01:29, 11 February 2026

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81.179.199.253 at 01:29, 11 February 2026

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42.book.addict: my apologies for the technical issues

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my apologies for the technical issues

42.book.addict at 00:58, 11 February 2026

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Elizium23 at 00:54, 11 February 2026

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 I don't think the category titles in the description should say "creatures".  Nothing in the comic specifically claims these are groups of creatures, and the items in Quadrant IV include a bicycle, a stapler, and a plant or pineapple, which are clearly not creatures. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.19.189|136.226.19.189]] 17:57, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
 :If you'd kindly consult a dictionary, you would see that this definition of "creature" is perfectly normal and understandable. While Randall doesn't use it directly, it may be too archaic for the audience here to understand. I wouldn't oppose changing our wording, but I just wanted to point out that it is, pedantically correct usage after all. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 00:54, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
-::I highly doubt that his intention was an ''archaic'' definition that has fallen out of favor. The more correct term in the present day would be "objects", not "creature". I say that we change it to objects. [[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font:9pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#5CA7CF">tor</span><span style="color:#F08DB0">i :3</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font:6pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#9E9E9E">talk </span><span style="color:#F08DB0">to </span><span style="color:#5CA7CF">me!</span>]]</span></sup> 00:58, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
+::I highly doubt that his intention was an ''archaic'' definition that has fallen out of favor. The more correct term in the present day would be "objects", not "creature". I say that we change it to objects. [[User:42.book.addict|<span style="font:11pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#5CA7CF">tor</span><span style="color:#F08DB0">i :3</span></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict|<span style="font:8pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#9E9E9E">talk </span><span style="color:#F08DB0">to </span><span style="color:#5CA7CF">me!</span>]]</span></sup> 00:58, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
 :::I object. "Objects" objectively gives a sense of "non-creature", so "object" not "creature" would project a reach in itself.
 :::There's 16 (or 17) drawings of truly "creatures", and 2 (or 3) drawings of truly "objects", depending upon what the maybe-pineapple is and whether you want to class the person by one of the words or not. Either of those words is going to be awkward (one less overhelmingly than the other), and neither is really the kind of common-parlance hypernym that wouldn't go without complaint. You need something like "entities", really.

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 Anyway, I saw a pineapple, not a pot(ted) plant. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:5103:C3E:1873:B450:305A:44C9|2607:FB91:5103:C3E:1873:B450:305A:44C9]] 18:08, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
 :In some parts of the English speaking world they call plants in pots "a pot plant" rather than using the term to refer to the reefer.[[Special:Contributions/57.140.28.52|57.140.28.52]] 17:42, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
 If we are going to be pedantic, the flightless bird silhouette is of a false penguin, not a penguin, although admittedly today people call false penguins “penguins” because all the true penguins were exterminated about 180 years ago. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 04:46, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

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	So Linnaeus had information animal, vegetable, and mineral? [[User:Chrullrich\|Chrullrich]] ([[User talk:Chrullrich\|talk]]) 10:57, 12 February 2026 (UTC)		So Linnaeus had information animal, vegetable, and mineral? [[User:Chrullrich\|Chrullrich]] ([[User talk:Chrullrich\|talk]]) 10:57, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
		+	:He was very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.238.7\|82.132.238.7]] 11:07, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

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	:::There's 16 (or 17) drawings of truly "creatures", and 2 (or 3) drawings of truly "objects", depending upon what the maybe-pineapple is and whether you want to class the person by one of the words or not. Either of those words is going to be awkward (one less overhelmingly than the other), and neither is really the kind of common-parlance hypernym that wouldn't go without complaint. You need something like "entities", really.		:::There's 16 (or 17) drawings of truly "creatures", and 2 (or 3) drawings of truly "objects", depending upon what the maybe-pineapple is and whether you want to class the person by one of the words or not. Either of those words is going to be awkward (one less overhelmingly than the other), and neither is really the kind of common-parlance hypernym that wouldn't go without complaint. You need something like "entities", really.
	:::So... we could always go for the even more descriptive (and suitably inclusive, in-context) "''silhouettes'' that [don't] seem like dinosaurs" and that "are [not]"? Even Cueball is a silhouette of a regular (circle-outline for head) Cueball. As a suggestion. [[Special:Contributions/81.179.199.253\|81.179.199.253]] 01:29, 11 February 2026 (UTC)		:::So... we could always go for the even more descriptive (and suitably inclusive, in-context) "''silhouettes'' that [don't] seem like dinosaurs" and that "are [not]"? Even Cueball is a silhouette of a regular (circle-outline for head) Cueball. As a suggestion. [[Special:Contributions/81.179.199.253\|81.179.199.253]] 01:29, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
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		+	So Linnaeus had information animal, vegetable, and mineral? [[User:Chrullrich\|Chrullrich]] ([[User talk:Chrullrich\|talk]]) 10:57, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

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 "Pot plant?" We can't see it well enough to be that specific, though I think it is shaped differently than a pot plant. "Potted."
 Anyway, I saw a pineapple, not a pot(ted) plant. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:5103:C3E:1873:B450:305A:44C9|2607:FB91:5103:C3E:1873:B450:305A:44C9]] 18:08, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
 If we are going to be pedantic, the flightless bird silhouette is of a false penguin, not a penguin, although admittedly today people call false penguins “penguins” because all the true penguins were exterminated about 180 years ago. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 04:46, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

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 :::I object. "Objects" objectively gives a sense of "non-creature", so "object" not "creature" would project a reach in itself.
 :::There's 16 (or 17) drawings of truly "creatures", and 2 (or 3) drawings of truly "objects", depending upon what the maybe-pineapple is and whether you want to class the person by one of the words or not. Either of those words is going to be awkward (one less overhelmingly than the other), and neither is really the kind of common-parlance hypernym that wouldn't go without complaint. You need something like "entities", really.
-:So... we could always go for the even more descriptive (and suitably inclusive, in-context) "''silhouettes'' that [don't] seem like dinosaurs" and that "are [not]"? Even Cueball is a silhouette of a regular (circle-outline for head) Cueball. As a suggestion. [[Special:Contributions/81.179.199.253|81.179.199.253]] 01:29, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
+:::So... we could always go for the even more descriptive (and suitably inclusive, in-context) "''silhouettes'' that [don't] seem like dinosaurs" and that "are [not]"? Even Cueball is a silhouette of a regular (circle-outline for head) Cueball. As a suggestion. [[Special:Contributions/81.179.199.253|81.179.199.253]] 01:29, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

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	:If you'd kindly consult a dictionary, you would see that this definition of "creature" is perfectly normal and understandable. While Randall doesn't use it directly, it may be too archaic for the audience here to understand. I wouldn't oppose changing our wording, but I just wanted to point out that it is, pedantically correct usage after all. [[User:Elizium23\|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23\|talk]]) 00:54, 11 February 2026 (UTC)		:If you'd kindly consult a dictionary, you would see that this definition of "creature" is perfectly normal and understandable. While Randall doesn't use it directly, it may be too archaic for the audience here to understand. I wouldn't oppose changing our wording, but I just wanted to point out that it is, pedantically correct usage after all. [[User:Elizium23\|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23\|talk]]) 00:54, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
	::I highly doubt that his intention was an ''archaic'' definition that has fallen out of favor. The more correct term in the present day would be "objects", not "creature". I say that we change it to objects. [[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font:9pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#5CA7CF">tor</span><span style="color:#F08DB0">i :3</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font:6pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#9E9E9E">talk </span><span style="color:#F08DB0">to </span><span style="color:#5CA7CF">me!</span>]]</span></sup> 00:58, 11 February 2026 (UTC)		::I highly doubt that his intention was an ''archaic'' definition that has fallen out of favor. The more correct term in the present day would be "objects", not "creature". I say that we change it to objects. [[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font:9pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#5CA7CF">tor</span><span style="color:#F08DB0">i :3</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font:6pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#9E9E9E">talk </span><span style="color:#F08DB0">to </span><span style="color:#5CA7CF">me!</span>]]</span></sup> 00:58, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
		+	:::I object. "Objects" objectively gives a sense of "non-creature", so "object" not "creature" would project a reach in itself.
		+	:::There's 16 (or 17) drawings of truly "creatures", and 2 (or 3) drawings of truly "objects", depending upon what the maybe-pineapple is and whether you want to class the person by one of the words or not. Either of those words is going to be awkward (one less overhelmingly than the other), and neither is really the kind of common-parlance hypernym that wouldn't go without complaint. You need something like "entities", really.
		+	:So... we could always go for the even more descriptive (and suitably inclusive, in-context) "''silhouettes'' that [don't] seem like dinosaurs" and that "are [not]"? Even Cueball is a silhouette of a regular (circle-outline for head) Cueball. As a suggestion. [[Special:Contributions/81.179.199.253\|81.179.199.253]] 01:29, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

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	I don't think the category titles in the description should say "creatures". Nothing in the comic specifically claims these are groups of creatures, and the items in Quadrant IV include a bicycle, a stapler, and a plant or pineapple, which are clearly not creatures. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.19.189\|136.226.19.189]] 17:57, 10 February 2026 (UTC)		I don't think the category titles in the description should say "creatures". Nothing in the comic specifically claims these are groups of creatures, and the items in Quadrant IV include a bicycle, a stapler, and a plant or pineapple, which are clearly not creatures. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.19.189\|136.226.19.189]] 17:57, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
	:If you'd kindly consult a dictionary, you would see that this definition of "creature" is perfectly normal and understandable. While Randall doesn't use it directly, it may be too archaic for the audience here to understand. I wouldn't oppose changing our wording, but I just wanted to point out that it is, pedantically correct usage after all. [[User:Elizium23\|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23\|talk]]) 00:54, 11 February 2026 (UTC)		:If you'd kindly consult a dictionary, you would see that this definition of "creature" is perfectly normal and understandable. While Randall doesn't use it directly, it may be too archaic for the audience here to understand. I wouldn't oppose changing our wording, but I just wanted to point out that it is, pedantically correct usage after all. [[User:Elizium23\|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23\|talk]]) 00:54, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
		+	::I highly doubt that his intention was an ''archaic'' definition that has fallen out of favor. The more correct term in the present day would be "objects", not "creature". I say that we change it to objects. [[User:42.book.addict\|<span style="font:9pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#5CA7CF">tor</span><span style="color:#F08DB0">i :3</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:42.book.addict\|<span style="font:6pt Cormorant Garamond"><span style="color:#9E9E9E">talk </span><span style="color:#F08DB0">to </span><span style="color:#5CA7CF">me!</span>]] 00:58, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

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	I don't think the category titles in the description should say "creatures". Nothing in the comic specifically claims these are groups of creatures, and the items in Quadrant IV include a bicycle, a stapler, and a plant or pineapple, which are clearly not creatures. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.19.189\|136.226.19.189]] 17:57, 10 February 2026 (UTC)		I don't think the category titles in the description should say "creatures". Nothing in the comic specifically claims these are groups of creatures, and the items in Quadrant IV include a bicycle, a stapler, and a plant or pineapple, which are clearly not creatures. [[Special:Contributions/136.226.19.189\|136.226.19.189]] 17:57, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
		+	:If you'd kindly consult a dictionary, you would see that this definition of "creature" is perfectly normal and understandable. While Randall doesn't use it directly, it may be too archaic for the audience here to understand. I wouldn't oppose changing our wording, but I just wanted to point out that it is, pedantically correct usage after all. [[User:Elizium23\|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23\|talk]]) 00:54, 11 February 2026 (UTC)