Talk:3225: Satellite Pollution - Revision history

SammyChips at 13:56, 2 April 2026

2026-04-02T13:56:43Z

SammyChips at 16:34, 1 April 2026

2026-04-01T16:34:23Z

SammyChips at 16:30, 1 April 2026

2026-04-01T16:30:33Z

SammyChips at 16:17, 1 April 2026

2026-04-01T16:17:36Z

2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4: Kessler syndrome?

2026-04-01T08:46:27Z

Kessler syndrome?

Kev at 18:49, 31 March 2026

2026-03-31T18:49:58Z

2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A at 08:05, 31 March 2026

2026-03-31T08:05:35Z

Martin: how is the banner lit?

2026-03-30T22:23:17Z

how is the banner lit?

82.132.239.130: Personally doubt it, but too ambivalent about this opinion to solidify this in an actual reply...

2026-03-30T15:32:41Z

Personally doubt it, but too ambivalent about this opinion to solidify this in an actual reply...

2806:2A0:B2E:8322:0:0:0:EDC: Quick mention of possible search engines reference

2026-03-30T13:34:11Z

Quick mention of possible search engines reference

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	The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)		The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
		+	:Actually, there's an idea. We can have corporate entities send up huge nets to capture space debris, and allow them to use it for advertising, assuming it wouldn't then exacerbate the problem. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 13:56, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

	It seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. It certainly could happen now, but it's probably not very widespread outside a few mobile games and some sports broadcasts. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)		It seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. It certainly could happen now, but it's probably not very widespread outside a few mobile games and some sports broadcasts. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

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	The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)		The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

−	It seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. It could ~~certainly~~ happen now, but it's probably not very widespread outside a few mobile games and some sports broadcasts. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)	+	It seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. It certainly could happen now, but it's probably not very widespread outside a few mobile games and some sports broadcasts. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

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	The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)		The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

−	~~This~~ seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)	+	It seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. It could certainly happen now, but it's probably not very widespread outside a few mobile games and some sports broadcasts. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

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	The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)		The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
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		+	This seems like this sort of thing could be a plausible scenario in the future if we utilize commercial providers to connect to a shared {{w\|Augmented Reality}} experience. [[User:SammyChips\|SammyChips]] ([[User talk:SammyChips\|talk]]) 16:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

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	I am reminded of an Arthur C. Clarke story, I think it was Watch This Space, part of a series set on the first moonbase. As scientific experiment involving a cloud of glowing atoms is sabotaged to produce an advertising slogan. Coca Cola is implied but never named.--[[Special:Contributions/2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A\|2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A]] 08:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)		I am reminded of an Arthur C. Clarke story, I think it was Watch This Space, part of a series set on the first moonbase. As scientific experiment involving a cloud of glowing atoms is sabotaged to produce an advertising slogan. Coca Cola is implied but never named.--[[Special:Contributions/2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A\|2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A]] 08:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
	: I'm reminded of the "Galaxy of Trash" scene from Fight club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaVpD92w-A [[User:Kev\|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev\|talk]]) 18:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)		: I'm reminded of the "Galaxy of Trash" scene from Fight club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaVpD92w-A [[User:Kev\|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev\|talk]]) 18:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
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		+	The explanation should include discussion of the {{w\|Kessler syndrome}} implications of big space banners. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4\|2603:800C:1200:596A:E98B:D546:F067:DA4]] 08:46, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

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	I am reminded of an Arthur C. Clarke story, I think it was Watch This Space, part of a series set on the first moonbase. As scientific experiment involving a cloud of glowing atoms is sabotaged to produce an advertising slogan. Coca Cola is implied but never named.--[[Special:Contributions/2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A\|2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A]] 08:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)		I am reminded of an Arthur C. Clarke story, I think it was Watch This Space, part of a series set on the first moonbase. As scientific experiment involving a cloud of glowing atoms is sabotaged to produce an advertising slogan. Coca Cola is implied but never named.--[[Special:Contributions/2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A\|2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A]] 08:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
		+	: I'm reminded of the "Galaxy of Trash" scene from Fight club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaVpD92w-A [[User:Kev\|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev\|talk]]) 18:49, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

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	I do wonder if this is in reference to results in search engines, given the "sponsored galaxies", and the tendency to provide fake results at the top for many engines {{unsigned ip\|2806:2a0:b2e:8322::edc\|13:34, 30 March 2026}}		I do wonder if this is in reference to results in search engines, given the "sponsored galaxies", and the tendency to provide fake results at the top for many engines {{unsigned ip\|2806:2a0:b2e:8322::edc\|13:34, 30 March 2026}}
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		+	I am reminded of an Arthur C. Clarke story, I think it was Watch This Space, part of a series set on the first moonbase. As scientific experiment involving a cloud of glowing atoms is sabotaged to produce an advertising slogan. Coca Cola is implied but never named.--[[Special:Contributions/2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A\|2A00:23CC:D248:8901:5D76:61B5:C315:E67A]] 08:05, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

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 ::For reference, the quoted 100 miles width at GEO/GSO would roughly span the Moon"s radius (''not'' even its diameter, which is the usual rule of thumb for "how big all other things in the sky look"), so would seem to be on the lower edge of being useful for bringing 'better' views of the sky it obscures (with and without advertising) to the casual Mk-1 Eyeball observer of the universe. Thus it can only really be 'useful' to the astronomers that it's in reality inconveniencing.
 ::Though if set at ISS level of orbit, 100 miles would be ~45 Moon-widths, slightly narrower than a paperback book held at arm's length (if I'm cross-converting my trigonometry correctly), which would conceivably have some public primary purpose, upon which the secondary purpose of making it look like the stars it is also obscuring (give or take its rapid journey across the starfield, and mis-parallaxing issues unless it has ''very'' sophisticated {{w|lenticular lens|'observer-adaptive' optics}} to directly counter this effect) might be a mitigation/sop to astronomers like the minor rejig of Starlinks was to reduce their flare-profiles. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.239.130|82.132.239.130]] 11:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
 I do wonder if this is in reference to results in search engines, given the "sponsored galaxies", and the tendency to provide fake results at the top for many engines {{unsigned ip|2806:2a0:b2e:8322::edc|13:34, 30 March 2026}}

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	::Though if set at ISS level of orbit, 100 miles would be ~45 Moon-widths, slightly narrower than a paperback book held at arm's length (if I'm cross-converting my trigonometry correctly), which would conceivably have some public primary purpose, upon which the secondary purpose of making it look like the stars it is also obscuring (give or take its rapid journey across the starfield, and mis-parallaxing issues unless it has ''very'' sophisticated {{w\|lenticular lens\|'observer-adaptive' optics}} to directly counter this effect) might be a mitigation/sop to astronomers like the minor rejig of Starlinks was to reduce their flare-profiles. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.239.130\|82.132.239.130]] 11:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)		::Though if set at ISS level of orbit, 100 miles would be ~45 Moon-widths, slightly narrower than a paperback book held at arm's length (if I'm cross-converting my trigonometry correctly), which would conceivably have some public primary purpose, upon which the secondary purpose of making it look like the stars it is also obscuring (give or take its rapid journey across the starfield, and mis-parallaxing issues unless it has ''very'' sophisticated {{w\|lenticular lens\|'observer-adaptive' optics}} to directly counter this effect) might be a mitigation/sop to astronomers like the minor rejig of Starlinks was to reduce their flare-profiles. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.239.130\|82.132.239.130]] 11:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

−	I do wonder if this is in reference to results in search engines, given the "sponsored galaxies", and the tendency to provide fake results at the top for many engines	+	I do wonder if this is in reference to results in search engines, given the "sponsored galaxies", and the tendency to provide fake results at the top for many engines {{unsigned ip\|2806:2a0:b2e:8322::edc\|13:34, 30 March 2026}}

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	::For reference, the quoted 100 miles width at GEO/GSO would roughly span the Moon"s radius (''not'' even its diameter, which is the usual rule of thumb for "how big all other things in the sky look"), so would seem to be on the lower edge of being useful for bringing 'better' views of the sky it obscures (with and without advertising) to the casual Mk-1 Eyeball observer of the universe. Thus it can only really be 'useful' to the astronomers that it's in reality inconveniencing.		::For reference, the quoted 100 miles width at GEO/GSO would roughly span the Moon"s radius (''not'' even its diameter, which is the usual rule of thumb for "how big all other things in the sky look"), so would seem to be on the lower edge of being useful for bringing 'better' views of the sky it obscures (with and without advertising) to the casual Mk-1 Eyeball observer of the universe. Thus it can only really be 'useful' to the astronomers that it's in reality inconveniencing.
	::Though if set at ISS level of orbit, 100 miles would be ~45 Moon-widths, slightly narrower than a paperback book held at arm's length (if I'm cross-converting my trigonometry correctly), which would conceivably have some public primary purpose, upon which the secondary purpose of making it look like the stars it is also obscuring (give or take its rapid journey across the starfield, and mis-parallaxing issues unless it has ''very'' sophisticated {{w\|lenticular lens\|'observer-adaptive' optics}} to directly counter this effect) might be a mitigation/sop to astronomers like the minor rejig of Starlinks was to reduce their flare-profiles. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.239.130\|82.132.239.130]] 11:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)		::Though if set at ISS level of orbit, 100 miles would be ~45 Moon-widths, slightly narrower than a paperback book held at arm's length (if I'm cross-converting my trigonometry correctly), which would conceivably have some public primary purpose, upon which the secondary purpose of making it look like the stars it is also obscuring (give or take its rapid journey across the starfield, and mis-parallaxing issues unless it has ''very'' sophisticated {{w\|lenticular lens\|'observer-adaptive' optics}} to directly counter this effect) might be a mitigation/sop to astronomers like the minor rejig of Starlinks was to reduce their flare-profiles. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.239.130\|82.132.239.130]] 11:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
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		+	I do wonder if this is in reference to results in search engines, given the "sponsored galaxies", and the tendency to provide fake results at the top for many engines