Talk:422: A Better Idea - Revision history

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Certified nqh at 02:13, 6 May 2024

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Birdsinthewindow: Added opinion to discussion section

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Added opinion to discussion section

162.158.69.169 at 21:19, 26 September 2017

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Nyperold at 20:00, 27 June 2016

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ExternalMonolog: Comment on interpretation/ alternate interpretation

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Comment on interpretation/ alternate interpretation

Dgbrt at 21:58, 4 December 2013

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173.245.55.217: Created page with "Why ''almost''? ~~~~BK"

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Created page with "Why ''almost''? ~~~~BK"

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Why ''almost''? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.217|173.245.55.217]] 16:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)BK

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	:Or are you just wanting not to explain "Prom"? Perhaps you think 'everyone knows' (well, maybe everyone does, having seen countless US teen-focussed TV shows, if not actuallybbeing from the US and steeped in that culture already), but that's not necessarily true in other cultures. Tell me at a younger age ahout "the prom", and I'd think of {{w\|BBC Proms\|something else derived from "promenade"}}, not "the end of year school disco" (or, if I had been born only slightly earlier, possibly the invitational school tea-dance that alternated between the Girls' Grammar and the Boys' Grammar and was probably much more like a US prom than the merged/non-selective school's disco ever was).		:Or are you just wanting not to explain "Prom"? Perhaps you think 'everyone knows' (well, maybe everyone does, having seen countless US teen-focussed TV shows, if not actuallybbeing from the US and steeped in that culture already), but that's not necessarily true in other cultures. Tell me at a younger age ahout "the prom", and I'd think of {{w\|BBC Proms\|something else derived from "promenade"}}, not "the end of year school disco" (or, if I had been born only slightly earlier, possibly the invitational school tea-dance that alternated between the Girls' Grammar and the Boys' Grammar and was probably much more like a US prom than the merged/non-selective school's disco ever was).
	:I'd never put all the above in an explanation, as it's too wordy and experience-specific, but I ''would'' expect not to lack the basic link onwards for anything that perhaps a reader might need a little nudge to explain. There also seem to me to be no good reason to remove a quick aside/link that might be helpful and doesn't really expand the basic explanation appreciably. As long as it's right, and (waiting to be proven wrong...) I think that's established, and perhaps even you believe it now? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.95\|172.69.194.95]] 08:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)		:I'd never put all the above in an explanation, as it's too wordy and experience-specific, but I ''would'' expect not to lack the basic link onwards for anything that perhaps a reader might need a little nudge to explain. There also seem to me to be no good reason to remove a quick aside/link that might be helpful and doesn't really expand the basic explanation appreciably. As long as it's right, and (waiting to be proven wrong...) I think that's established, and perhaps even you believe it now? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.95\|172.69.194.95]] 08:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
		+	:...all that too, but as the [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=422:_A_Better_Idea&diff=341349&oldid=341348 reverter in question], I was mostly responding to the basic disbelief expressed in the [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=422:_A_Better_Idea&diff=prev&oldid=341348 original change], demonstrating it with a (I thought/still think) acceptable source to satisfy them. Maybe it was a mis-reason by them, and they really thought it was excessive information. (No, I don't think so either. Also never attended a prom, myself. Back then '70s Disco Nights just being called "Disco Nights". :P But thank you to Buffy The Vampire Slayer for explaining the concept to me!) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.216\|162.158.38.216]] 09:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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	if you can find more than one use of "promenade" outside of a dictionary or name then i'll believe that "prom is short for promenade" is something worth including [[User:Certified_nqh\|Me]]{{citation needed}} 02:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)		if you can find more than one use of "promenade" outside of a dictionary or name then i'll believe that "prom is short for promenade" is something worth including [[User:Certified_nqh\|Me]]{{citation needed}} 02:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
		+	:What? I mean, {{wiktionary\|prom\|wiktionary's 'prom'}} says outright "a clipping of 'promenade'". I can understand why you might not accept that if you're descriptivist and not prescriptivist. But not accepting a "name" (if I understand you correctly; I'm sure you miswrote that, somehow) sumultaneously makes you a ''prescriptivist'' and not a ''descriptivist''. Where does that even leave you?
		+	:And what even is the problem? Checking the edit history, it looks like you just didn't believe that "prom" was a shortened form of "promenade". If it isn't (and there's no good reason to believe that, as there's no obvious alternate etymology given to explain it or any sign of mystery/argument amongst etymologists) all the professional ''and'' crowd-sourced analyses of it that one can check appear to have been misled. If you have proof of it coming from "promotional", or whatever alternative you think it is, then add that.
		+	:Or are you just wanting not to explain "Prom"? Perhaps you think 'everyone knows' (well, maybe everyone does, having seen countless US teen-focussed TV shows, if not actuallybbeing from the US and steeped in that culture already), but that's not necessarily true in other cultures. Tell me at a younger age ahout "the prom", and I'd think of {{w\|BBC Proms\|something else derived from "promenade"}}, not "the end of year school disco" (or, if I had been born only slightly earlier, possibly the invitational school tea-dance that alternated between the Girls' Grammar and the Boys' Grammar and was probably much more like a US prom than the merged/non-selective school's disco ever was).
		+	:I'd never put all the above in an explanation, as it's too wordy and experience-specific, but I ''would'' expect not to lack the basic link onwards for anything that perhaps a reader might need a little nudge to explain. There also seem to me to be no good reason to remove a quick aside/link that might be helpful and doesn't really expand the basic explanation appreciably. As long as it's right, and (waiting to be proven wrong...) I think that's established, and perhaps even you believe it now? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.95\|172.69.194.95]] 08:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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	:Why are we assuming Cueball is the one interested in the LAN part instead of Megan? The comic gives no indication whether Cueball, Megan, or both are enticed by the prospect. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.169\|162.158.69.169]] 21:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)		:Why are we assuming Cueball is the one interested in the LAN part instead of Megan? The comic gives no indication whether Cueball, Megan, or both are enticed by the prospect. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.169\|162.158.69.169]] 21:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
	I always assumed that "LAN party in formal attire" was a joke that combined "LAN party" and "lawn party in formal attire."[[User:Birdsinthewindow\|Birdsinthewindow]] ([[User talk:Birdsinthewindow\|talk]]) 02:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)		I always assumed that "LAN party in formal attire" was a joke that combined "LAN party" and "lawn party in formal attire."[[User:Birdsinthewindow\|Birdsinthewindow]] ([[User talk:Birdsinthewindow\|talk]]) 02:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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		+	if you can find more than one use of "promenade" outside of a dictionary or name then i'll believe that "prom is short for promenade" is something worth including [[User:Certified_nqh\|Me]]{{citation needed}} 02:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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	This could be looked at as exactly the reverse as well, and I don't see any clear way to pick one over the other as the intended meaning of the strip. Cueball could have simply dumped his date and gone to the LAN party. Now in hindsight he regrets that he chose the LAN party over the possibility of a continued relationship with his prom date. (Who we assume would have dumped him on the spot!)[[User:ExternalMonolog\|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog\|talk]]) 21:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)ExternalMonolog		This could be looked at as exactly the reverse as well, and I don't see any clear way to pick one over the other as the intended meaning of the strip. Cueball could have simply dumped his date and gone to the LAN party. Now in hindsight he regrets that he chose the LAN party over the possibility of a continued relationship with his prom date. (Who we assume would have dumped him on the spot!)[[User:ExternalMonolog\|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog\|talk]]) 21:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)ExternalMonolog
	:Why are we assuming Cueball is the one interested in the LAN part instead of Megan? The comic gives no indication whether Cueball, Megan, or both are enticed by the prospect. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.169\|162.158.69.169]] 21:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)		:Why are we assuming Cueball is the one interested in the LAN part instead of Megan? The comic gives no indication whether Cueball, Megan, or both are enticed by the prospect. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.169\|162.158.69.169]] 21:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
		+	I always assumed that "LAN party in formal attire" was a joke that combined "LAN party" and "lawn party in formal attire."[[User:Birdsinthewindow\|Birdsinthewindow]] ([[User talk:Birdsinthewindow\|talk]]) 02:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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	This could be looked at as exactly the reverse as well, and I don't see any clear way to pick one over the other as the intended meaning of the strip. Cueball could have simply dumped his date and gone to the LAN party. Now in hindsight he regrets that he chose the LAN party over the possibility of a continued relationship with his prom date. (Who we assume would have dumped him on the spot!)[[User:ExternalMonolog\|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog\|talk]]) 21:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)ExternalMonolog		This could be looked at as exactly the reverse as well, and I don't see any clear way to pick one over the other as the intended meaning of the strip. Cueball could have simply dumped his date and gone to the LAN party. Now in hindsight he regrets that he chose the LAN party over the possibility of a continued relationship with his prom date. (Who we assume would have dumped him on the spot!)[[User:ExternalMonolog\|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog\|talk]]) 21:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)ExternalMonolog
		+	:Why are we assuming Cueball is the one interested in the LAN part instead of Megan? The comic gives no indication whether Cueball, Megan, or both are enticed by the prospect. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.169\|162.158.69.169]] 21:19, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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 Why ''almost''?  [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.217|173.245.55.217]] 16:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)BK
 :Maybe because Cueball realizes that this prom brings him to an ordinary life, no LAN parties any more, but he just wants go back to that parties.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 This could be looked at as exactly the reverse as well, and I don't see any clear way to pick one over the other as the intended meaning of the strip. Cueball could have simply dumped his date and gone to the LAN party. Now in hindsight he regrets that he chose the LAN party over the possibility of a continued relationship with his prom date. (Who we assume would have dumped him on the spot!)[[User:ExternalMonolog|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog|talk]]) 21:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)ExternalMonolog

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	:Maybe because Cueball realizes that this prom brings him to an ordinary life, no LAN parties any more, but he just wants go back to that parties.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 21:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)		:Maybe because Cueball realizes that this prom brings him to an ordinary life, no LAN parties any more, but he just wants go back to that parties.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 21:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
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		+	This could be looked at as exactly the reverse as well, and I don't see any clear way to pick one over the other as the intended meaning of the strip. Cueball could have simply dumped his date and gone to the LAN party. Now in hindsight he regrets that he chose the LAN party over the possibility of a continued relationship with his prom date. (Who we assume would have dumped him on the spot!)[[User:ExternalMonolog\|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog\|talk]]) 21:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)ExternalMonolog

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		+	:Maybe because Cueball realizes that this prom brings him to an ordinary life, no LAN parties any more, but he just wants go back to that parties.--[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 21:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)