Talk:657: Movie Narrative Charts - Revision history

172.69.33.190 at 00:57, 24 December 2024

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172.69.33.172 at 07:18, 10 December 2024

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172.69.33.173 at 07:18, 10 December 2024

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108.162.229.18 at 14:32, 3 January 2021

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JohnHawkinson: mark yesterday's unsigned comment and relegate it to end

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mark yesterday's unsigned comment and relegate it to end

162.158.88.128 at 11:06, 20 October 2017

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NiceGuy1 at 05:35, 9 June 2017

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Dontknow at 23:10, 20 April 2017

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Dontknow at 23:10, 20 April 2017

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JohnHawkinson: r / columns?

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r / columns?

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 ::The explanation of the Minard map on the linked page seems adequate. Not every piece of information needs to be in this wiki.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.136|108.162.245.136]] 03:19, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 :::I would disagree. Most people don't follow links. I would say that the Minard map is absolutely essential to understanding this comic. All of the images in the comic are based on the Minard map, and if you haven't seen the Minard map, you haven't understood the comic. Reasonably people can disagree on that, of course, but I think it unquestionably passes the "relevance" test that you mention ("Not every piece of information needs to be in this wiki"). An appropriate contextual explanation needs to be written. That's on my todo list after the image is working, which it is not right now. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 03:40, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 ::Nice work on the pic, I moved it so that the text is above the picture. It makes more sense for readers to read the text for background knowledge and then see the pic.[[User:Dontknow|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow|talk]]) 20:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 :::At the risk of excessive navel-gazing, I wonder if we're better off putting it on the right with the text accompanying it on the left. Also maybe shrinking it a bit more. I dunno... [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 03:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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	I am not sure if this should be included, but it is a nice piece of trivia anyway: Randall seems to have inspired a whole field of research in digital humanities with this strip. There are now multiple papers on "storyline visualizations" that reference this comic, using the concept for visualizations of storylines, politic events and other stuff. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-50106-2_30 {{unsigned\|162.158.88.128\|11:06, 20 October 2017 }}		I am not sure if this should be included, but it is a nice piece of trivia anyway: Randall seems to have inspired a whole field of research in digital humanities with this strip. There are now multiple papers on "storyline visualizations" that reference this comic, using the concept for visualizations of storylines, politic events and other stuff. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-50106-2_30 {{unsigned\|162.158.88.128\|11:06, 20 October 2017 }}

−	It is a fascinating concept. Not gonna lie, I could 100% spend the rest of my life making these charts. --- someone who's not smart enough to type all those brackets	+	It is a fascinating concept. Not gonna lie, I could 100% spend the rest of my life making these charts. --- someone who's not smart enough to type all those brackets [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.172\|172.69.33.172]] 07:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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	I am not sure if this should be included, but it is a nice piece of trivia anyway: Randall seems to have inspired a whole field of research in digital humanities with this strip. There are now multiple papers on "storyline visualizations" that reference this comic, using the concept for visualizations of storylines, politic events and other stuff. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-50106-2_30 {{unsigned\|162.158.88.128\|11:06, 20 October 2017 }}		I am not sure if this should be included, but it is a nice piece of trivia anyway: Randall seems to have inspired a whole field of research in digital humanities with this strip. There are now multiple papers on "storyline visualizations" that reference this comic, using the concept for visualizations of storylines, politic events and other stuff. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-50106-2_30 {{unsigned\|162.158.88.128\|11:06, 20 October 2017 }}
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		+	It is a fascinating concept. Not gonna lie, I could 100% spend the rest of my life making these charts. --- someone who's not smart enough to type all those brackets

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	Second flaw is that Sam is going to west, too {{unsigned ip\|141.101.99.80}}		Second flaw is that Sam is going to west, too {{unsigned ip\|141.101.99.80}}
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		+	: But much later, as does Legolas together with Gimli. Both Aragorn and Arwen's deaths are also in the last book but not shown here. All these events just happen way after the main story and are thus not included in the chart. Btw., Wormtongue also only dies later, around the time Saruman actually dies (in fact, he's the one who murdered Saruman). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.18\|108.162.229.18]] 14:32, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

	Third flaw is that in 12 Angry Men, Juror 8 interacts with Juror 9 at the very end.{{unsigned ip\|108.162.215.56}}		Third flaw is that in 12 Angry Men, Juror 8 interacts with Juror 9 at the very end.{{unsigned ip\|108.162.215.56}}

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 I added it to the explaination as it certainly adds to the understadning of the comic. It was already uploaded by someone else. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.117|108.162.246.117]] 03:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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 :::At the risk of excessive navel-gazing, I wonder if we're better off putting it on the right with the text accompanying it on the left. Also maybe shrinking it a bit more. I dunno... [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 03:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 :::: There are many comics where there is a pic in the middle,see [[1282: Monty Hall]] just need a little more opinion. [[User:Dontknow|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow|talk]]) 23:10, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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	I added it to the explaination as it certainly adds to the understadning of the comic. It was already uploaded by someone else. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.117\|108.162.246.117]] 03:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)		I added it to the explaination as it certainly adds to the understadning of the comic. It was already uploaded by someone else. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.117\|108.162.246.117]] 03:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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		+	I am not sure if this should be included, but it is a nice piece of trivia anyway: Randall seems to have inspired a whole field of research in digital humanities with this strip. There are now multiple papers on "storyline visualizations" that reference this comic, using the concept for visualizations of storylines, politic events and other stuff. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-50106-2_30

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 : You're right! Perhaps this could be also mentioned in a "mistakes" / trivia section, as the flaws above. --[[User:LaVe|LaVe]] ([[User talk:LaVe|talk]]) 13:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
-For me it is SO weird that this is today's Incomplete Explanation. Yesterday on Facebook, I had a Memory that I shared this 1 year ago today (so, 1 year ago yesterday). :) - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.76|162.158.126.76]] 04:31, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
+For me it is SO weird that this is today's Incomplete Explanation. Yesterday on Facebook, I had a Memory that I shared this 1 year ago today (so, 1 year ago yesterday). :) - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.76|162.158.126.76]] 04:31, 4 January 2017 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 I added some transcript. I didn't manage to use different colors in the transcript, so I added the HEX-Codes directly in the text. I'm not mother-tongued so please correct if you find mistakes. --[[User:LaVe|LaVe]] ([[User talk:LaVe|talk]]) 12:30, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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	::Nice work on the pic, I moved it so that the text is above the picture. It makes more sense for readers to read the text for background knowledge and then see the pic.[[User:Dontknow\|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow\|talk]]) 20:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)		::Nice work on the pic, I moved it so that the text is above the picture. It makes more sense for readers to read the text for background knowledge and then see the pic.[[User:Dontknow\|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow\|talk]]) 20:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
	:::At the risk of excessive navel-gazing, I wonder if we're better off putting it on the right with the text accompanying it on the left. Also maybe shrinking it a bit more. I dunno... [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 03:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)		:::At the risk of excessive navel-gazing, I wonder if we're better off putting it on the right with the text accompanying it on the left. Also maybe shrinking it a bit more. I dunno... [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 03:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
		+	:::: There are many comics where there is a pic in the middle, just need a little more opinion. [[User:Dontknow\|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow\|talk]]) 23:10, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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	:::I would disagree. Most people don't follow links. I would say that the Minard map is absolutely essential to understanding this comic. All of the images in the comic are based on the Minard map, and if you haven't seen the Minard map, you haven't understood the comic. Reasonably people can disagree on that, of course, but I think it unquestionably passes the "relevance" test that you mention ("Not every piece of information needs to be in this wiki"). An appropriate contextual explanation needs to be written. That's on my todo list after the image is working, which it is not right now. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 03:40, 18 April 2017 (UTC)		:::I would disagree. Most people don't follow links. I would say that the Minard map is absolutely essential to understanding this comic. All of the images in the comic are based on the Minard map, and if you haven't seen the Minard map, you haven't understood the comic. Reasonably people can disagree on that, of course, but I think it unquestionably passes the "relevance" test that you mention ("Not every piece of information needs to be in this wiki"). An appropriate contextual explanation needs to be written. That's on my todo list after the image is working, which it is not right now. [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 03:40, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
	::Nice work on the pic, I moved it so that the text is above the picture. It makes more sense for readers to read the text for background knowledge and then see the pic.[[User:Dontknow\|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow\|talk]]) 20:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)		::Nice work on the pic, I moved it so that the text is above the picture. It makes more sense for readers to read the text for background knowledge and then see the pic.[[User:Dontknow\|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow\|talk]]) 20:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
		+	:::At the risk of excessive navel-gazing, I wonder if we're better off putting it on the right with the text accompanying it on the left. Also maybe shrinking it a bit more. I dunno... [[User:JohnHawkinson\|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson\|talk]]) 03:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)