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141.101.98.175: Solving (deliberate?) attribution confusion.

2023-10-02T09:24:40Z

Solving (deliberate?) attribution confusion.

172.70.38.179 at 01:20, 2 October 2023

2023-10-02T01:20:28Z

172.70.43.33: Ban my IP again snowflake

2023-10-02T01:17:13Z

Ban my IP again snowflake

172.70.43.33 at 01:16, 2 October 2023

2023-10-02T01:16:28Z

141.101.99.194 at 09:22, 29 September 2023

2023-09-29T09:22:11Z

172.64.238.78 at 18:55, 27 September 2023

2023-09-27T18:55:46Z

108.162.241.7: Just wanted to say my piece.

2023-09-27T17:54:54Z

Just wanted to say my piece.

108.162.241.14 at 13:42, 29 October 2020

2020-10-29T13:42:49Z

Lupo at 11:36, 19 December 2019

2019-12-19T11:36:14Z

Kazvorpal at 05:19, 25 October 2019

2019-10-25T05:19:26Z

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 :::Hmmm... I read "personally" as an indicator of definite (presumed) superiority. "''I'' think this, that ''they'' are annoying; listen to ''my'' opinion." There's an certain egocentric element to it. Even apparently fair-minded comments can go sour by being hedged by an unnecessary "Personally" kicking off the statement (try a few). That is my own understanding, and of course the textual medium leaves it open to individual interpretation of tone and force of intent. But (personally!) I see Cueball as aggressively extremist in his centrism (in disliking both ends of the extremist spectrum). And Meghan is (knowingly, deliberately) passive-aggressive in response.
 :::But the true meaning may be in the eye of the beholder (any of us), and could be easily divorced from that intended to be set down by the pen of the author as well. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.78|172.64.238.78]] 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
-I suggest that this wiki is edited and commented on by people who understand the xkcd comic they are commenting on. This chat is certainly full of people who have no awareness that this comic is about them
+I suggest that this wiki is edited and commented on by people who understand the xkcd comic they are commenting on. This chat is certainly full of people who have no awareness that this comic is about them {{unsigned ip|141.101.99.194|09:22, 29 September 2023}}
+^ Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to us. :) {{unsigned ip|172.70.43.33|01:16, 2 October 2023}}

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		+	[[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.14\|108.162.241.14]] 13:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC):
	^ Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to us. :)		^ Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to us. :)

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−	Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to us. :)	+	^ Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to us. :)

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	:::But the true meaning may be in the eye of the beholder (any of us), and could be easily divorced from that intended to be set down by the pen of the author as well. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.78\|172.64.238.78]] 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)		:::But the true meaning may be in the eye of the beholder (any of us), and could be easily divorced from that intended to be set down by the pen of the author as well. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.78\|172.64.238.78]] 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
	I suggest that this wiki is edited and commented on by people who understand the xkcd comic they are commenting on. This chat is certainly full of people who have no awareness that this comic is about them		I suggest that this wiki is edited and commented on by people who understand the xkcd comic they are commenting on. This chat is certainly full of people who have no awareness that this comic is about them
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		+	Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to us. :)

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	:::Hmmm... I read "personally" as an indicator of definite (presumed) superiority. "''I'' think this, that ''they'' are annoying; listen to ''my'' opinion." There's an certain egocentric element to it. Even apparently fair-minded comments can go sour by being hedged by an unnecessary "Personally" kicking off the statement (try a few). That is my own understanding, and of course the textual medium leaves it open to individual interpretation of tone and force of intent. But (personally!) I see Cueball as aggressively extremist in his centrism (in disliking both ends of the extremist spectrum). And Meghan is (knowingly, deliberately) passive-aggressive in response.		:::Hmmm... I read "personally" as an indicator of definite (presumed) superiority. "''I'' think this, that ''they'' are annoying; listen to ''my'' opinion." There's an certain egocentric element to it. Even apparently fair-minded comments can go sour by being hedged by an unnecessary "Personally" kicking off the statement (try a few). That is my own understanding, and of course the textual medium leaves it open to individual interpretation of tone and force of intent. But (personally!) I see Cueball as aggressively extremist in his centrism (in disliking both ends of the extremist spectrum). And Meghan is (knowingly, deliberately) passive-aggressive in response.
	:::But the true meaning may be in the eye of the beholder (any of us), and could be easily divorced from that intended to be set down by the pen of the author as well. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.78\|172.64.238.78]] 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)		:::But the true meaning may be in the eye of the beholder (any of us), and could be easily divorced from that intended to be set down by the pen of the author as well. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.78\|172.64.238.78]] 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	I suggest that this wiki is edited and commented on by people who understand the xkcd comic they are commenting on. This chat is certainly full of people who have no awareness that this comic is about them

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−	:: Meghan's reaction (and the people who repost this comic uncritically) is bizarrely defensive, uncalled for, etc. How does Cueball's statement indicate that he feels superior to either? He said he "personally" finds them to be equally "annoying" - nothing about that indicates he thinks he is above them, and starting with "personally" essentially qualifies that. When I first saw this comic on r/atheism my assumption was that the author was a fragile individual who was upset someone pointed out the parallels between their behaviour, mindset, etc. and that of fundamentalists. When you don't like what someone's said, it is much easier to accuse them of bad faith - e.g. you need a way to feel superior - than to simply accept that it's an honest opinion.	+	:: Meghan's reaction (and the people who repost this comic uncritically) is bizarrely defensive, uncalled for, etc. How does Cueball's statement indicate that he feels superior to either? He said he "personally" finds them to be equally "annoying" - nothing about that indicates he thinks he is above them, and starting with "personally" essentially qualifies that. When I first saw this comic on r/atheism my assumption was that the author was a fragile individual who was upset someone pointed out the parallels between their behaviour, mindset, etc. and that of fundamentalists. When you don't like what someone's said, it is much easier to accuse them of bad faith - e.g. you need a way to feel superior - than to simply accept that it's an honest opinion. {{unsigned ip\|108.162.241.7\|17:54, 27 September 2023}}
		+	:::Hmmm... I read "personally" as an indicator of definite (presumed) superiority. "''I'' think this, that ''they'' are annoying; listen to ''my'' opinion." There's an certain egocentric element to it. Even apparently fair-minded comments can go sour by being hedged by an unnecessary "Personally" kicking off the statement (try a few). That is my own understanding, and of course the textual medium leaves it open to individual interpretation of tone and force of intent. But (personally!) I see Cueball as aggressively extremist in his centrism (in disliking both ends of the extremist spectrum). And Meghan is (knowingly, deliberately) passive-aggressive in response.
		+	:::But the true meaning may be in the eye of the beholder (any of us), and could be easily divorced from that intended to be set down by the pen of the author as well. [[Special:Contributions/172.64.238.78\|172.64.238.78]] 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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	::my motto is just to let people believe whatever makes them happiest.		::my motto is just to let people believe whatever makes them happiest.
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		+	:: Meghan's reaction (and the people who repost this comic uncritically) is bizarrely defensive, uncalled for, etc. How does Cueball's statement indicate that he feels superior to either? He said he "personally" finds them to be equally "annoying" - nothing about that indicates he thinks he is above them, and starting with "personally" essentially qualifies that. When I first saw this comic on r/atheism my assumption was that the author was a fragile individual who was upset someone pointed out the parallels between their behaviour, mindset, etc. and that of fundamentalists. When you don't like what someone's said, it is much easier to accuse them of bad faith - e.g. you need a way to feel superior - than to simply accept that it's an honest opinion.

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	::I actually have a friend who was a devout Fundamentalist Christian, and then switched over to becoming a dedicated Fundamentalist Atheist. I find arguments about religion with him equally annoying regardless of which side he is/was on so I guess they're on to something...		::I actually have a friend who was a devout Fundamentalist Christian, and then switched over to becoming a dedicated Fundamentalist Atheist. I find arguments about religion with him equally annoying regardless of which side he is/was on so I guess they're on to something...
	[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.55\|108.162.219.55]] 08:39, 5 June 2014 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.55\|108.162.219.55]] 08:39, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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		+	::my motto is just to let people believe whatever makes them happiest.
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 The sad truth is that there's nothing out there but the universe.  Luckily, it's a magnificent one. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 01:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
-*Speaking as a skeptic and agnostic, the certainty that there's nothing out there but the observable universe is a dunderheaded leap that requires far more faith and irrationalism than a theist. The only rational position regarding things inobservable is that one does not know. Hell, it doesn't require that gods exist for this to be patently obvious, the universe could simply be a simulation. That could be impossible to observe from inside, or only possible to infer from artifacts like data compression being used to conserve processor power and RAM, a-la Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. — [[User:Kazvorpal|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal|talk]]) 05:19, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
+:Speaking as a skeptic and agnostic, the certainty that there's nothing out there but the observable universe is a dunderheaded leap that requires far more faith and irrationalism than a theist. The only rational position regarding things inobservable is that one does not know. Hell, it doesn't require that gods exist for this to be patently obvious, the universe could simply be a simulation. That could be impossible to observe from inside, or only possible to infer from artifacts like data compression being used to conserve processor power and RAM, a-la Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. — [[User:Kazvorpal|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal|talk]]) 05:19, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 :There's some real irony in someone declaring that atheists are boring while also affirming itself as an atheist. Maybe it's just reluctant to claim the title? Some atheists choose to be called "agnostic" for that reason, even when they fit the bill. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.200|199.27.128.200]] 08:07, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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	The sad truth is that there's nothing out there but the universe. Luckily, it's a magnificent one. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58\|108.162.219.58]] 01:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)		The sad truth is that there's nothing out there but the universe. Luckily, it's a magnificent one. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58\|108.162.219.58]] 01:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
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		+	*Speaking as a skeptic and agnostic, the certainty that there's nothing out there but the observable universe is a dunderheaded leap that requires far more faith and irrationalism than a theist. The only rational position regarding things inobservable is that one does not know. Hell, it doesn't require that gods exist for this to be patently obvious, the universe could simply be a simulation. That could be impossible to observe from inside, or only possible to infer from artifacts like data compression being used to conserve processor power and RAM, a-la Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. — [[User:Kazvorpal\|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal\|talk]]) 05:19, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

	:There's some real irony in someone declaring that atheists are boring while also affirming itself as an atheist. Maybe it's just reluctant to claim the title? Some atheists choose to be called "agnostic" for that reason, even when they fit the bill. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.200\|199.27.128.200]] 08:07, 28 March 2015 (UTC)		:There's some real irony in someone declaring that atheists are boring while also affirming itself as an atheist. Maybe it's just reluctant to claim the title? Some atheists choose to be called "agnostic" for that reason, even when they fit the bill. [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.200\|199.27.128.200]] 08:07, 28 March 2015 (UTC)