Talk:836: Sickness - Revision history

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141.101.88.124: Possible explanation for "bitches"

2018-05-29T14:14:51Z

Possible explanation for "bitches"

141.101.98.16 at 10:29, 24 January 2017

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141.101.98.16 at 10:25, 24 January 2017

2017-01-24T10:25:56Z

Cmancone: Retracing previous comment

2016-09-27T18:06:45Z

Retracing previous comment

Cmancone: It's about modern medicine vs alternative medicine: not suicide

2016-09-27T18:01:42Z

It's about modern medicine vs alternative medicine: not suicide

Ата: i guess, this was intended

2016-08-08T17:01:34Z

i guess, this was intended

Weatherlawyer at 20:34, 24 January 2015

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 ::Yes, "to take arms against a sea of troubles" in this context does in fact does mean to commit suicide. The struggle refered to in the previous line is whether to put up with the unbearable situation he (Hamlet) has been placed in, or, in the next line(s), to exit the situation via suicide. Elsewise, why would he suddenly transition from "overcoming obstacles" to considering death? Doesn't make sense. For your reference, check out http://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/hamlet-to-be-or-not-to-be/.[[User:Orazor|Orazor]] ([[User talk:Orazor|talk]]) 10:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 : Why commit suicide. His mother tries to get him to accept the inevitable that his father's killer is now in power and get on with life instead of pretending to be daft.
-:A bare bodkin is an arrow tipped with steel, a war arrow. As opposed to a neutered one for harmless purposes.
+:A bare bodkin is an arrow tipped with steel, a war arrow. As opposed to a neutered one for harmless purposes. [[User:Weatherlawyer| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer|talk]]) 20:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently.  I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience.  Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science".  Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him.  It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!".  Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide.  I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine.  I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for.  However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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	Could the "bitches" be a reference to Richard Dawkings, who said, when asked why do he choose to use scientific method : "It works... Bitches!". Pretty famous line, and the first I heard from him. {{unsigned ip\|141.101.88.124}}		Could the "bitches" be a reference to Richard Dawkings, who said, when asked why do he choose to use scientific method : "It works... Bitches!". Pretty famous line, and the first I heard from him. {{unsigned ip\|141.101.88.124}}
		+	:Richard Dawkins was probably referring to this comic from 2006: [[54: Science]]. You can read it here: [https://www.theverge.com/2013/4/2/4173576/richard-dawkins-on-science-it-works-bitches Richard Dawkins on science: 'it works, bitches' (2013)]. Randall was first. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 21:03, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

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	:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

−	Could the "bitches" be a reference to Richard Dawkings, who said, when asked why do he choose to use scientific method : "It works... Bitches!". Pretty famous line, and the first I heard from him.	+	Could the "bitches" be a reference to Richard Dawkings, who said, when asked why do he choose to use scientific method : "It works... Bitches!". Pretty famous line, and the first I heard from him. {{unsigned ip\|141.101.88.124}}

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	I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
	:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Could the "bitches" be a reference to Richard Dawkings, who said, when asked why do he choose to use scientific method : "It works... Bitches!". Pretty famous line, and the first I heard from him.

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	I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
	:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
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−	~~I believe the last panel is a reference to Richard Dawkins 'Science - it works. Bitches' (roleybob)~~

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	I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
	:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
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		+	I believe the last panel is a reference to Richard Dawkins 'Science - it works. Bitches' (roleybob)

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	I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)		I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
		+	:Having read everything over again, I think the current explanation is fine. I realized that the explanation talks less about suicide than the discussion, and that the explanations understanding of "Beyond science" is a better fit than him asking about alternative medicine. So ignore me [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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	:A bare bodkin is an arrow tipped with steel, a war arrow. As opposed to a neutered one for harmless purposes.		:A bare bodkin is an arrow tipped with steel, a war arrow. As opposed to a neutered one for harmless purposes.
	:[[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 20:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)		:[[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 20:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
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		+	I'm going to add some more discussion to the explanation, as I have always read this comic completely differently. I saw white hat's question as asking if Cueball considered seeking cures for his illness outside of science, i.e. in pseudoscience. Given the wide variety of "cures" for all manner of illnesses (especially cancer) in alternative medicine, this seems like the most straight-forward meaning of his question "are you looking for answers outside of science". Randall has obviously made plenty of comics about pseudoscience, so it is a relevant theme for him. It also brings the comic together nicely, as Cueball is basically answering "Science has given us plenty of great tools: no need to rely on that crap!". Frankly, I'm a bit confused as to how the explanation went to discussions of suicide. I understand that "Slings and arrows of fortune" is a Hamlet reference that involves a discussion of suicide, but the comic makes way more sense if you understand it as a contrast between the tools of modern medicine and the "tools" of ancient/alternative medicine. I don't really think suicide was what Randall was aiming for. However, I'll leave that all in as an alternative explanation for someone else to remove, if desired. [[User:Cmancone\|Cmancone]] ([[User talk:Cmancone\|talk]]) 18:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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	:"Take arms against a sea of troubles..." does not mean to commit suicide. It means to fight against the struggle referred to the in the previous line "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune". The contemplation of suicide is expressed in the phrase "When he himself might his quietus make / With a bare bodkin" when one could end one's life with a dagger. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.151\|141.101.70.151]] 08:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)		:"Take arms against a sea of troubles..." does not mean to commit suicide. It means to fight against the struggle referred to the in the previous line "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune". The contemplation of suicide is expressed in the phrase "When he himself might his quietus make / With a bare bodkin" when one could end one's life with a dagger. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.151\|141.101.70.151]] 08:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::Yes, "to take arms against a sea of troubles" in this context does in fact does mean to commit suicide. The struggle refered to in the previous line is whether to put up with the unbearable situation he (Hamlet) has been placed in, or, in the next line(s), to exit the situation via suicide. Elsewise, why would he suddenly transition from "overcoming obstacles" to considering death? Doesn't make sense. For your reference, check out http://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/hamlet-to-be-or-not-to-be/.[[User:Orazor\|Orazor]] ([[User talk:Orazor\|talk]]) 10:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC)		::Yes, "to take arms against a sea of troubles" in this context does in fact does mean to commit suicide. The struggle refered to in the previous line is whether to put up with the unbearable situation he (Hamlet) has been placed in, or, in the next line(s), to exit the situation via suicide. Elsewise, why would he suddenly transition from "overcoming obstacles" to considering death? Doesn't make sense. For your reference, check out http://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/hamlet-to-be-or-not-to-be/.[[User:Orazor\|Orazor]] ([[User talk:Orazor\|talk]]) 10:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
		+	: Why commit suicide. His mother tries to get him to accept the inevitable that his father's killer is now in power and get on with life instead of pretending to be daft.
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		+	A bare bodkin is an arrow tipped with steel, a war arrow. As opposed to a neutered one for harmless purposes.
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		+	[[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 20:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)