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108.162.221.163: tech

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162.158.179.107 at 12:00, 23 July 2021

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162.158.179.108: question

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162.158.165.40 at 08:23, 26 January 2018

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108.162.219.154 at 15:39, 19 May 2017

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Davidy22 at 04:07, 30 September 2016

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141.101.98.93 at 01:17, 29 September 2016

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141.101.98.93 at 01:15, 29 September 2016

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108.162.250.158 at 23:33, 20 March 2016

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Arifsaha at 19:33, 8 October 2014

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 ::I believe being a winner in sport - especially men - will increase his change for mating and (therefore) procreation. [[User:Arifsaha|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha|talk]]) 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 :::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
+::::I think the upgrades in biotechnology explain away the vast majority of improvements. For example, getting the mile in under 4 minutes was accomplished with the aid of better shoes and a better understanding of the mechanics of running. Bannister was not even a descendant of runners, except in the generic sense that we all are, so speculating about natural selection on this trait since 1900 is ridiculous. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.163|108.162.221.163]] 14:40, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by" ~Jack {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.93}}

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 It affects more than sports. I work in calibration. A weight used for *force* measurements (10N, for example) has to be calibrated for local gravity - 1% change in local gravity vs 0.1% weight tolerance...[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154|108.162.219.154]] 15:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
-The explanation usually given for Bob Beamon's 8.91 metre (29.75 ft) long jump at the 1968 Olympics is that the Mexico City air (at an altitude of 8000ft/2480m) was thinner. But sure, if you also want to credit as well something that needs special, high-calibration equipment and complex math to measure, go ahead. ####
+The explanation usually given for Bob Beamon's 8.91 metre (29.75 ft) long jump at the 1968 Olympics is that the Mexico City air (at an altitude of 8000ft/2480m) was thinner. But sure, if you also want to credit as well something that needs special, high-calibration equipment and complex math to measure, go ahead. #### (unsigned)
-Is there an actual example where it would have made a difference in the Olympics? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.179.108|162.158.179.108]] 12:00, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
+:Is there an actual example where it would have made a difference in the Olympics? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.179.108|162.158.179.108]] 12:00, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

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	The explanation usually given for Bob Beamon's 8.91 metre (29.75 ft) long jump at the 1968 Olympics is that the Mexico City air (at an altitude of 8000ft/2480m) was thinner. But sure, if you also want to credit as well something that needs special, high-calibration equipment and complex math to measure, go ahead. ####		The explanation usually given for Bob Beamon's 8.91 metre (29.75 ft) long jump at the 1968 Olympics is that the Mexico City air (at an altitude of 8000ft/2480m) was thinner. But sure, if you also want to credit as well something that needs special, high-calibration equipment and complex math to measure, go ahead. ####
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	It affects more than sports. I work in calibration. A weight used for force measurements (10N, for example) has to be calibrated for local gravity - 1% change in local gravity vs 0.1% weight tolerance...[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154\|108.162.219.154]] 15:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)		It affects more than sports. I work in calibration. A weight used for force measurements (10N, for example) has to be calibrated for local gravity - 1% change in local gravity vs 0.1% weight tolerance...[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154\|108.162.219.154]] 15:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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		+	The explanation usually given for Bob Beamon's 8.91 metre (29.75 ft) long jump at the 1968 Olympics is that the Mexico City air (at an altitude of 8000ft/2480m) was thinner. But sure, if you also want to credit as well something that needs special, high-calibration equipment and complex math to measure, go ahead. ####

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	Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by" ~Jack {{unsigned ip\|141.101.98.93}}		Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by" ~Jack {{unsigned ip\|141.101.98.93}}
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		+	It affects more than sports. I work in calibration. A weight used for force measurements (10N, for example) has to be calibrated for local gravity - 1% change in local gravity vs 0.1% weight tolerance...[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.154\|108.162.219.154]] 15:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

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	:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)		:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

−	Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by" ~Jack	+	Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by" ~Jack {{unsigned ip\|141.101.98.93}}

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	:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)		:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

−	Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by"	+	Is nobody going to mention the spelling mistake in the first panel? "Buy" instead of "by" ~Jack

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	::I believe being a winner in sport - especially men - will increase his change for mating and (therefore) procreation. [[User:Arifsaha\|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha\|talk]]) 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)		::I believe being a winner in sport - especially men - will increase his change for mating and (therefore) procreation. [[User:Arifsaha\|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha\|talk]]) 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
	:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)		:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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	:The added traction is definitely offset by the increase in force required to maintain height off the ground. So maybe you'd start faster, but you'd definitely end slower. This is why records are a questionable metric. Not only do small things like this completely affect the results, but shifts in these things over time. As well as increases in biotechnology, training, and genetic offerings. It's weird how this has nothing to do with survival on the grand scale, yet we see humans adapt over time like this. Either we are generically becoming better on every metric, or willpower has an effect on offspring. It's possible that athletes find athletes and have kids. I don't know; it is a mystery. [[User:Cflare\|Cflare]] ([[User talk:Cflare\|talk]]) 15:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)		:The added traction is definitely offset by the increase in force required to maintain height off the ground. So maybe you'd start faster, but you'd definitely end slower. This is why records are a questionable metric. Not only do small things like this completely affect the results, but shifts in these things over time. As well as increases in biotechnology, training, and genetic offerings. It's weird how this has nothing to do with survival on the grand scale, yet we see humans adapt over time like this. Either we are generically becoming better on every metric, or willpower has an effect on offspring. It's possible that athletes find athletes and have kids. I don't know; it is a mystery. [[User:Cflare\|Cflare]] ([[User talk:Cflare\|talk]]) 15:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
	::I believe being a winner in sport - especially men - will increase his change for mating and (therefore) procreation. [[User:Arifsaha\|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha\|talk]]) 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)		::I believe being a winner in sport - especially men - will increase his change for mating and (therefore) procreation. [[User:Arifsaha\|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha\|talk]]) 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
		+	:::This isn't evolutionary; to establish evolution you need to show that a trait is inherited and those with the trait have produced more offspring over time. Marginal changes in general health and fitness are impacted by diet and related to relative poverty - I find it difficult to believe there is a selective signal in something that is overwhelmingly skewed by environment/context. Most likely, general wellbeing has increased due to greater access to education, welfare, etc. I bet if you look at economic crashes like Russia post 1991 and the western world post 2008, you'd find decreases in these abilities following soon afterward. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158\|108.162.250.158]] 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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	Well,it doesn't just affect pole vaulters, it affect all sports, like running, less graity makes you run faster. Or maybe slower? ~Jfreund		Well,it doesn't just affect pole vaulters, it affect all sports, like running, less graity makes you run faster. Or maybe slower? ~Jfreund
	:The added traction is definitely offset by the increase in force required to maintain height off the ground. So maybe you'd start faster, but you'd definitely end slower. This is why records are a questionable metric. Not only do small things like this completely affect the results, but shifts in these things over time. As well as increases in biotechnology, training, and genetic offerings. It's weird how this has nothing to do with survival on the grand scale, yet we see humans adapt over time like this. Either we are generically becoming better on every metric, or willpower has an effect on offspring. It's possible that athletes find athletes and have kids. I don't know; it is a mystery. [[User:Cflare\|Cflare]] ([[User talk:Cflare\|talk]]) 15:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)		:The added traction is definitely offset by the increase in force required to maintain height off the ground. So maybe you'd start faster, but you'd definitely end slower. This is why records are a questionable metric. Not only do small things like this completely affect the results, but shifts in these things over time. As well as increases in biotechnology, training, and genetic offerings. It's weird how this has nothing to do with survival on the grand scale, yet we see humans adapt over time like this. Either we are generically becoming better on every metric, or willpower has an effect on offspring. It's possible that athletes find athletes and have kids. I don't know; it is a mystery. [[User:Cflare\|Cflare]] ([[User talk:Cflare\|talk]]) 15:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
		+	::I believe being a winner in sport - especially men - will increase his change for mating and (therefore) procreation. [[User:Arifsaha\|Arifsaha]] ([[User talk:Arifsaha\|talk]]) 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)