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 : Latest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58665809
 : Also I'm noting in passing that I've got several devices ''still'' only MicroB-charging (one older thing is still mini-USB, I think, but only for data and not used for charging which is so much more easily accomplished by just swapping in new/recharged AA cells), the newest slightly over a year since bought first-hand, and not yet had a fabled USB-C one yet. Maybe I just don't pursue the bleeding edge, like most people (nor Apple stuff). ;) [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.246|173.245.54.246]] 17:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
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	What are the solutions to this "competing standards" problem? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.189.10\|172.70.189.10]] 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) Ignis		What are the solutions to this "competing standards" problem? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.189.10\|172.70.189.10]] 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) Ignis
	:Well, there's always the technodespot who prescribes ''the'' sole standard that is to be used... Even if it isn't one that is the best/sufficient/workable, but... people can always adjust. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.32\|141.101.99.32]] 20:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC)		:Well, there's always the technodespot who prescribes ''the'' sole standard that is to be used... Even if it isn't one that is the best/sufficient/workable, but... people can always adjust. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.32\|141.101.99.32]] 20:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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		+	:: True! For example, this just happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33078596 (EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.147.47\|172.70.147.47]] 17:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC) Ignis

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	What are the solutions to this "competing standards" problem? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.189.10\|172.70.189.10]] 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) Ignis		What are the solutions to this "competing standards" problem? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.189.10\|172.70.189.10]] 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) Ignis
		+	:Well, there's always the technodespot who prescribes ''the'' sole standard that is to be used... Even if it isn't one that is the best/sufficient/workable, but... people can always adjust. ;) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.32\|141.101.99.32]] 20:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

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 : Latest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58665809
 : Also I'm noting in passing that I've got several devices ''still'' only MicroB-charging (one older thing is still mini-USB, I think, but only for data and not used for charging which is so much more easily accomplished by just swapping in new/recharged AA cells), the newest slightly over a year since bought first-hand, and not yet had a fabled USB-C one yet. Maybe I just don't pursue the bleeding edge, like most people (nor Apple stuff). ;) [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.246|173.245.54.246]] 17:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 What are the solutions to this "competing standards" problem? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.189.10|172.70.189.10]] 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) Ignis

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	: Latest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58665809		: Latest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58665809
	: Also I'm noting in passing that I've got several devices ''still'' only MicroB-charging (one older thing is still mini-USB, I think, but only for data and not used for charging which is so much more easily accomplished by just swapping in new/recharged AA cells), the newest slightly over a year since bought first-hand, and not yet had a fabled USB-C one yet. Maybe I just don't pursue the bleeding edge, like most people (nor Apple stuff). ;) [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.246\|173.245.54.246]] 17:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)		: Also I'm noting in passing that I've got several devices ''still'' only MicroB-charging (one older thing is still mini-USB, I think, but only for data and not used for charging which is so much more easily accomplished by just swapping in new/recharged AA cells), the newest slightly over a year since bought first-hand, and not yet had a fabled USB-C one yet. Maybe I just don't pursue the bleeding edge, like most people (nor Apple stuff). ;) [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.246\|173.245.54.246]] 17:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
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		+	What are the solutions to this "competing standards" problem? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.189.10\|172.70.189.10]] 17:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC) Ignis

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	: Relevant news on this aspect: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51137069 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.93\|162.158.158.93]] 17:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)		: Relevant news on this aspect: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51137069 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.93\|162.158.158.93]] 17:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
		+	: (Was that me, that posted that? Possibly, it's written how I might have written it, from the same source that inspired me to bring the following here...)
		+	: Latest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58665809
		+	: Also I'm noting in passing that I've got several devices ''still'' only MicroB-charging (one older thing is still mini-USB, I think, but only for data and not used for charging which is so much more easily accomplished by just swapping in new/recharged AA cells), the newest slightly over a year since bought first-hand, and not yet had a fabled USB-C one yet. Maybe I just don't pursue the bleeding edge, like most people (nor Apple stuff). ;) [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.246\|173.245.54.246]] 17:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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	: Except they didn't, because USB-C happened before micro-USB convergence actually occured in the West, and iPhones still aren't conforming to any sort of charger standard in 2019. And now we have 9 different standards running over a USB-C connector...		: Except they didn't, because USB-C happened before micro-USB convergence actually occured in the West, and iPhones still aren't conforming to any sort of charger standard in 2019. And now we have 9 different standards running over a USB-C connector...

−	: ~~Relevent~~ news on this aspect: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51137069 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.93\|162.158.158.93]] 17:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)	+	: Relevant news on this aspect: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51137069 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.93\|162.158.158.93]] 17:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

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 This particular comic is widely cited in about four different SDO's that I participate in [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.9|108.162.216.9]] 08:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 This is more applicable to politics. It's so prevalent in the left and I frequently reference it on /r/socialism and stuff. Once in a while there will be a person posting saying that we need to form one major socialist party that appeals to als many  tendencies as possible like Marxism, Leninism, Maoism, Trotskyism, with the parties like SAlt, SPUSA, etc. It's like. NO. YOU'LL JUST FURTHER SHATTER THE LEFT. Forget parties. We all have the common goal of class consciousness and worker ownership of the means of production. Let's first work on that and *later* argue about the specifics. Like seriously. For the organizing the left is known for, there seems to be less organizing and more arguing going on... [[User:International Space Station|International Space Station]] ([[User talk:International Space Station|talk]]) 02:10, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 :Hah, with that kind of talk, it's no wonder your Popular Front for Galilee only has one member, bleedin' splitter! The goal of the People's Popular Liberation Front for East Judea (Bethlehem) is to free our country from the Judean People's Front (and the Romans after that) but there is no way allying with Samarian splitters like you is going to bring us closer to that goal! We will defeat the People's Popular Liberation Front for East Judea (Bethlehem) and free our country! Bloody SPLITTERS! Long live the People's Popular Liberation Front for East Judea (Bethlehem-North)!
 :Sorry, but after seeing that comment I couldn't resist :P --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.50.106|172.68.50.106]] 01:55, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 UTF-8 and UTF-16 can both encode the entire Unicode character set, so I edited the page to say this. (In actual fact, UTF-16 is more commonly thought of as the more limited version, by people who confuse it with UCS-2.) --[[User:Sophira|Sophira]] ([[User talk:Sophira|talk]]) 00:07, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

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	: Except they didn't, because USB-C happened before micro-USB convergence actually occured in the West, and iPhones still aren't conforming to any sort of charger standard in 2019. And now we have 9 different standards running over a USB-C connector...		: Except they didn't, because USB-C happened before micro-USB convergence actually occured in the West, and iPhones still aren't conforming to any sort of charger standard in 2019. And now we have 9 different standards running over a USB-C connector...
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		+	: Relevent news on this aspect: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51137069 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.93\|162.158.158.93]] 17:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

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	Regarding ''Mobile phone chargers have mostly converged on a common USB-based solution'', it may be worth mentioning the reason they converged was China. China passed legislation standardizing the charging interface because competing designs proliferated and were not interoperating. It was causing excessive waste as millions of good chargers were discarded every year. Europe is cosidering similar legislation. Also see [https://www.chinalawblog.com/2007/06/chinas_big_government_hand_wor.html China’s Big Government Hand Works Just Fine] and [https://www.geek.com/apple/apple-will-be-forced-to-use-micro-usb-chargers-by-2017-1587862/ Apple will be forced to use micro USB chargers by 2017].		Regarding ''Mobile phone chargers have mostly converged on a common USB-based solution'', it may be worth mentioning the reason they converged was China. China passed legislation standardizing the charging interface because competing designs proliferated and were not interoperating. It was causing excessive waste as millions of good chargers were discarded every year. Europe is cosidering similar legislation. Also see [https://www.chinalawblog.com/2007/06/chinas_big_government_hand_wor.html China’s Big Government Hand Works Just Fine] and [https://www.geek.com/apple/apple-will-be-forced-to-use-micro-usb-chargers-by-2017-1587862/ Apple will be forced to use micro USB chargers by 2017].
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		+	: Except they didn't, because USB-C happened before micro-USB convergence actually occured in the West, and iPhones still aren't conforming to any sort of charger standard in 2019. And now we have 9 different standards running over a USB-C connector...