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 :::For the images both versions should be be available, if exist. Like "File:new_study.png" and "File:new_study_de.png". If DE exists it should be the default, otherwise the original. In this case the user should be able to switch between the original and translated image. I will do some tests at my local wiki and I will present some ideas at a Sandbox at my user page here. But nevertheless this is a project for 2014.
 :::: I think we can setup up MediaWiki to use images from another wiki (see [[Wikipedia:MW:Manual:Image administration#Foreign Repositories]]). This way, we can upload images to the localized wiki, but still use images from the English version. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 10:39, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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 ::::Most German people know English, but not in that detail.
 :::::Looking up {{w|List of countries by English-speaking population|Wikipedia}}, that would be ~64% of Germany. That's not counting Austria, Switzerland and Belgium, two of which appear to have lower rates of useful English knowledge than Germany. Also, I wouldn't assume that people want to learn or know English when they access our translated offerings.
-:Volunteerin Turkish translator for some comics. [[User:Erkinalp|Erkinalp]] ([[User talk:Erkinalp|talk]]) 10:43, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
+:Volunteering Turkish translator for some comics. [[User:Erkinalp|Erkinalp]] ([[User talk:Erkinalp|talk]]) 10:43, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 : I think an interwiki link between the languages should be enough. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 10:39, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 *Local admins - currently, we have no visible candidates to manage the French wiki, and two eligible Germans. Identifying viable candidates will be difficult for current admins, as I do not believe any of us actually speak French.

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 ::::Most German people know English, but not in that detail.
 :::::Looking up {{w|List of countries by English-speaking population|Wikipedia}}, that would be ~64% of Germany. That's not counting Austria, Switzerland and Belgium, two of which appear to have lower rates of useful English knowledge than Germany. Also, I wouldn't assume that people want to learn or know English when they access our translated offerings.
 : I think an interwiki link between the languages should be enough. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 10:39, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 *Local admins - currently, we have no visible candidates to manage the French wiki, and two eligible Germans. Identifying viable candidates will be difficult for current admins, as I do not believe any of us actually speak French.

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 :::Sounds good. I've never seen a site in the form www.de.explainxkcd.com though. Wouldn't de be the domain? Wouldn't that be expensive?
 ::::When someone does own "explainxkcd.com" a domain like "whatever.explainxkcd.com" should be a simple task.
 :::::Yeah, I can totally do that. I'm not sure www.de.explainxkcd.com is how domain names work though.
 : IMHO, we should use something like de.explainxkcd.com, with optional redirects from www.de.explainxkcd.com to the domain without www. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 10:39, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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 ::::When someone does own "explainxkcd.com" a domain like "whatever.explainxkcd.com" should be a simple task.
 :::::Yeah, I can totally do that. I'm not sure www.de.explainxkcd.com is how domain names work though.
 *Image translation
 ::Manipulating an image is a heavy task, a translated transcript would be a better solution. The (weak English reader) can see the original image but also the translation.
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 ::::Most German people know English, but not in that detail.
 :::::Looking up {{w|List of countries by English-speaking population|Wikipedia}}, that would be ~64% of Germany. That's not counting Austria, Switzerland and Belgium, two of which appear to have lower rates of useful English knowledge than Germany. Also, I wouldn't assume that people want to learn or know English when they access our translated offerings.
 *Local admins - currently, we have no visible candidates to manage the French wiki, and two eligible Germans. Identifying viable candidates will be difficult for current admins, as I do not believe any of us actually speak French.
 *Shared data - I'm only planning on sharing login data between the translation wikis, because pretty much everything will need translating. That means contribution history and existing pages will not be carried over, and templates will need to be manually carried over.
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 ::Welp, I actually did some research and you appear to be right on domain names. So, seperate images as well? I can do that. We should also start mocking up the translated comic template now to see what works from a UI standpoint. There's another thing to go on my list for things to do during Thanksgiving.
 :::For the images both versions should be be available, if exist. Like "File:new_study.png" and "File:new_study_de.png". If DE exists it should be the default, otherwise the original. In this case the user should be able to switch between the original and translated image. I will do some tests at my local wiki and I will present some ideas at a Sandbox at my user page here. But nevertheless this is a project for 2014.
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 *Right now I think a fully independent wiki instance would be the best solution. Means: Translating all templates and 42 and more...
 *The translated page should look similar to the original explainxkcd page, but if a translated image is shown a link to to the original image must be available.
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	Feel free to edit this page and its talk page to bring up anything else I may have. Given the projected starting trigger of full article completion, we'll probably start opening the translation wikis up for public editing in about {{PAGESINCAT:Incomplete explanations\|R}} days. In the meantime, we'll work on getting the parallel wikis set up and making sure that they aren't broken.		Feel free to edit this page and its talk page to bring up anything else I may have. Given the projected starting trigger of full article completion, we'll probably start opening the translation wikis up for public editing in about {{PAGESINCAT:Incomplete explanations\|R}} days. In the meantime, we'll work on getting the parallel wikis set up and making sure that they aren't broken.
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		+	;Some thoughts:
		+	*"www.de.explainxkcd.com" and also "de.explainxkcd.com" are valid domain names. I can provide help on this DNS config.
		+	*That names require a "Virtual Host" at the Web-Server itself. Just some configurations, not a big job.
		+	*Right now I think a fully independent wiki instance would be the best solution. Means: Translating all templates and 42 and more...
		+	*The translated page should look similar to the original explainxkcd page, but if a translated image is shown a link to to the original image must be available.

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