# 1350: Lorenz

 Lorenz Title text: Every choice, no matter how small, begins a new story
• NOTE: The above is the first panel of an interactive comic.
• To actually experience the interactive content you need to go to this comic on xkcd (click on the date above the comic, which, as always, takes you to the xkcd comic)
• For a collection of images that appear in this comic, see 1350: Lorenz/Images.
• These will also be described below under themes.
• Also note that the order of the options are random.
• By adding that there is a fifth option
• Let's see if BSD is any easier to install nowadays.
• Where only four can be shown - this means there are 5*4*3*2 = 120 different permutations of the way the options can be arranged only in this first image.
• So the above image will only appear with these four options in this order in less than 1% of the cases!
• Of course when you choose an option it is immaterial what the order of the other options was.

## Explanation

This was the fifth April fools' comic released by Randall. The previous April fools' comic was 1193: Externalities from Monday April 1st 2013. The next was 1506: xkcloud released on Wednesday April 1st 2015. This comic was posted a day earlier than normal (on Tuesday instead of Wednesday) to honor April Fools' Day of 2014.

This is an interactive and dynamic comic similar to the Choose Your Own Adventure series, where players flip to different pages based on the option they chose. The first picture shown on top of this page is the start of this comic, with a possible combination of text options to choose from (see above). The picture is always the same but the order of the four sentences (and the sentences themselves) is chosen randomly (and there can be more than four). The result of all the interactions by the readers led to the generation of crowd-sourced content.

The title 'Lorenz' is referring to Edward Norton Lorenz who, among other subjects, was famous for Chaos theory and the Butterfly effect (mentioned later in the title text of 1519: Venus). This comic is an example of a Choose Your Own Adventure story, as mentioned in the title text.

The title text is also a reference to how the storyline of this comic will be chaotic by nature, since it includes all of the user submitted dialogue and updates over time based on statistics of user clicks. In this manner, it is a reference to the butterfly effect: a phrase coined by Edward Lorenz to describe how a small initial change can lead to wide variations in outcome in a chaotic system.

Every time a story comes to a point where the user can either choose something or contribute when asked to Suggest a line, a link will appear by hovering the mouse over the bottom right corner of the last image. This is named a permalink, as it is a link that will recreate this particular story up to the point, making it permanent. It will not save the options listed below that image (i.e. the order of these will change, new options may appear, either because more than four are already present or new options will be added and some options may even disappear). An option is thus only saved by choosing it and then saving the next permalink — see more below.

The best way to enjoy this comic is to try it yourself! If you didn't do that already, reading any below will spoil you from truly enjoying the comic, and maybe make some interesting discoveries yourself! So here is a spoiler alert if you read on. If you do, then see also the section below about Functionality and bugs.

Any particular storyline will typically only have one or two of the many themes possible in the comic, but some very long stories may have several: see the Record section below. Several of the themes refer to previous comics or generally recurring themes in xkcd. (Most obviously is the blowtorch theme which is a reference to the previous comic 1349: Shouldn't Be Hard, where the last comment is I'll find a blowtorch as a response to Cueball's frustration over his problems.)

Because it is not always ending as "well" as with a burnt PC, they might instead end up in a shark infested ocean — see the Ocean theme, which is a reference to 349: Success: a comic that came exactly 1000 comics before the other one referenced in the same computer problem theme. In that comic, the sharks had not appeared yet; but here there may be several (and sharks are also a recurring topic in xkcd).

These issues with computers is generally a reference to the computer problem themes that precedes both the burning of the laptop and the ocean storylines, as Knit Cap tries to install BSD; and when it fails, she takes her friend Hairy with her in the fall, the water, space or into a Pokémon fight (as they are the two main character of this comic). Also Cueball (as a politician vs. another politician with hair) and White Hat have small appearances, but only in a small sections of particular storyline. Only few others interact directly with the main characters in the rest of the possible stories.

Other themes that are recurring in xkcd are Politics, Pokémon, Boomerangs and Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs enter the comic in the form of the green talking T-rex from Dinosaur Comics: a clip-art-based webcomic that uses the same artwork with different captions for every strip. This particular Dinosaur Comics has a title text that actually refer to Randall and xkcd, and the comic has previously appeared on xkcd in 145: Parody Week: Dinosaur Comics.

A way to combine more than one storyline is to let characters wake up from a dream or a nightmare, as can be see in the Dreams theme (and dreams are also a recurring topic). Here, it can even get recursive, so there can be dreams within dreams. One of the way to wake from a dream is, of course, by encountering a dinosaur that tries to step on your house (with you inside). Another is in reference to the possible rocket trip that may take the characters into space: see the Space theme (another recurring topic).

There are a few other topics that are covered by Randall himself, but many others will be referenced in the text in the comic. However, since most of the options the users have is in itself created by user input (including naming the characters different names), any reference made by the text is not considered part of Randall's work and thus only sporadically be mentioned below under the themes section and not be included as a category. Here is an example with a permalink where the last comment, in the ocean with a shark, references Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that disappeared less than a month before this comic was released [and has yet to be found years later]. But this is a user input, not Randall's.

Some of the idea of this comic was used again in the next year's April Fools' comic 1506: xkcloud, where user input also generated a very complex comic and the concept of permalink was used again.

This comic was the first time that Knit Cap has a main part to play. Since this comic, she has been given a category as a supporting character in xkcd, but in most other comics knit cap is seen as a man.[actual citation needed] The name knit cap for their hat has also been debated.

## Transcript

[This transcript only transcribes what can be seen in the picture shown at the top of the explanation here.]
[The comic starts with two panels. In the top panel we see Knit Cap sitting at a desk in front of her laptop typing. There is a speech line up to a gray but empty speech bubble.]
[The second panel below has the same gray background as the empty speech bubble above. Here is presented four options to what Knit Cap could be saying. They are marked a, b, c and d written in small white rectangles next to the text. There is a small arrow at the top pointing to the first panel:]
a Hurry! We're in talks with Facebook.
b These stupid tiles... I'll just play one more game.
c Refresh... No new email... Refresh... No new tweets... Refresh...
d Oh. Hey. There's some kind of political thing going on.
[Once the reader chooses one of the options, the text will appear in the speech bubble where the gray area is replaced with the usual white background. The lower gray panel disappears. Now the comic really begins.]
[A new panel is shown after the selection, again with one to four options to choose from in the new gray panel below. This will continue until it comes to an end where the reader finally only has the choice to suggest the next line.]
[The order of the up to four options are random, and changes every time you begin again (or even go back to a previous frame). This means that the a–d in the transcript is not the same next time. In some few panels there are even more than four options. To see the fifth you have to reload, then you may find this fifth option next time. The first panel is one of those with five options.]
[The fifth not shown above is: Let's see if BSD is any easier to install nowadays. (see image with this option in the trivia section).]
[In the first days of the comic, when it developed quickly, new options appeared only to later disappear. Gravity. Lots of it. is one of those lost options from the first panel. At one time there was also, by mistake, two versions of one of the other five mentioned above. This was later deleted. Below in the trivia section there are permalinks to all the different starting options, including the now lost gravity story.]
[Although it may be impossible to finish (?), there has been an attempt to make a complete interactive transcript.]

## Functionality and bugs

The reader is initially presented with only one panel, where Knit Cap Girl is sitting in front of her computer. The reader is given multiple choices concerning what exactly Knit Cap is thinking. Upon choosing any option, the chosen text will appear where her gray speech bubble was (which will disappear), and then a second panel appears to the right to give continuity to the story. Each new panel may have a new set of options, or just the button "Continue", to see the next panel without making any choice in particular. Eventually, one reaches a dead end in which the story is interrupted, and the reader is presented with a text box to suggest how it should continue. Some of the suggestions given should eventually become available as new options.

### Number of options

Normally, there are a total of 4 options to make: a/b/c/d. Their order changes constantly. Sometimes, there are 3 or fewer options, with the text box to suggest an alternative option. Sometimes, a given panel actually has 5 or more available options, although even in this case only 4 options appear at a time. Refreshing the comic changes randomly which of the available options are visible and which are hidden. As of late April 2014, the existence of 5 options seems to occur only in a few rare cases, including the first panel itself. There seem to be no longer any panels that have six options.

Instead of clicking with the mouse, you can move more quickly through the panels using the keyboard:

• Up/Down — navigate options
• Enter/Right/Spacebar — choose option after navigating with Up/Down
• Left — go back one panel
• a/b/c/d — choose any option directly

### New panels

It appeared that new panels were generated by Randall in near real time, as user suggestions to dialog were submitted around the release of the comic.

This text can (now) be found under the official transcript at xkcd:

```This April Fools' Day comic has a dynamic panel structure along the lines of a choose-your-own-adventure format - the viewer is presented with up to 4 options for each bit of dialogue, with each choice opening up a new subtree of potential options for the next bit of dialog, and new panel images are chosen semi-randomly based on a graph of potential panel transitions. Readers were also invited to submit dialog options for trees where there were not yet 4 fixed options, thus growing the potential story space. As such there is no fixed transcript for this comic.
```

The dialog options could be based on click-through rates, and hence will change over time based on which choices are clicked most using A/B measurement techniques. This will mean that the most popular choices for dialog lines will prevail as the statistics build up. In some cases, dialog line options do not depend on the continuity of the storyline followed, suggesting that some parts of the story are planned. For example, several of the story lines involve one of the two main characters waking up and, for instance, telling the other character, "I had the strangest dream..." or even reliving the dream. This may be due to common submissions across story lines. Of course, there is the other option that Randall has used the first week of April to look though some input and choose himself. These possibilities are not mutually exclusive. Some of the options that were there very early were in quite poor English. Later, the same idea was still there, but in a more refined sentence. However, after the first week or two, no new panels seemed to appear, which suggests that some were drawn to match the story's progression.

A "permalink" is a portmanteau of "permanent-link". Each panel has a "permalink" button which generates a unique URL for all the choices made by the reader — so a reader can save the chosen choices to compare them to other ways going through the selections. The permalinks do only save the chosen options, not the order or the visible options in the image where the permalink is recorded, so it is not possible to save a copy where the options are only in the same order as they are in the 1/120 version shown at the top. Also, if you go back in the story from a permalink, you can risk that when passing back through a panel with five options, the option you just got back from is no longer available; as it is the option randomly not shown this time.

### Suggest a line

Sometimes it is possible to add your own suggestions in a panel where there are still other choices, but, if not before, the story will always reach a "final" panel (dead-end) where the reader only has the option left to "suggest a line..." By doing so, and pressing enter, this text is then shown in the speech bubble — but these suggestions can't be saved, as there are no permalink buttons after this. The reader has to do a screenshot in order to save their own remark. After a few weeks had progressed, there were probably so few new suggestions that Randall stopped changing the comic. A few images have been found months (or even more than a year) after the release, but there has been little to no reason to believe that Randall continued to make new panels after the first few weeks of April. Maybe he returned occasionally to do one once in a while; but, for certain, the options and text continue to evolve.

### Bugs

Since this interactive comic relies on many servers in the background to provide the response to the reader's actions, there are some problems reported here:

• Cookies and Javascript are required to see this page properly. Without cookies, the next panel will not render; attempting to load the page in the UNIXKCD terminal or loading the page without Javascript will just get you the previous comic.
• In the first week after the comic was released, if a response led to a panel where two characters speak at the same time, it was impossible to proceed past the first speech bubble. This was subsequently fixed.

As a consequence of these bugs, many readers had trouble understanding how this interactive comic worked.

## Themes

 Preferably there should be permalinks that shows all the possible images below, but sadly this can not the case, as many images are no longer accessible by "playing" the comic game. Only if someone saved a permalink in the beginning of the comics "life" will it be possible to see examples of all images in a story line. If you do have some of these old permalinks saved, please fill in for any missing images here below. There are also notices in the relevant sections which have not all been streamlined, so they are built up in the same way and with as many permalinks as are available at the moment.
• The 17 themes below have been split up after what type of images appear in the comic.
• As of April 2016 there are 149 different images, which are all described here below.
• To see all images, go to 1350: Lorenz/Images.
• Below, several images have been used in more than one theme, and there will thus be more than 149 images displayed in the tables below.
• To avoid this section becoming extremely long, all the tables under each section has been collapsed, and can be opened by clicking the link [show].
• Permalinks have been provided (where possible) to storylines that includes all the images shown in a given section.
• As the story may continue to evolve, there may eventually be added more images, although there is reason to believe that this will no longer happen.
• If any are discovered, please include them in the table below with a permalink.
• In general, only little mention will be of the user contributed text.
• But if a story seems to revolve around the choices, this may be mentioned.
• Try only to make reference to anything that can be backed up with a permalink.

### Walking

 Does anyone have permalinks for the image where Hairy is walking alone in silhouette, and maybe a situation where he walks alone without the meanwhile image first (maybe because of arguing, see below)? Please help by posting them in the table below:

### Arguing

 Does anyone have permalinks with a story line where either of the two are walking alone after the argument where one of them leaves, as this supposedly occurred to begin with. Please help by posting them in the table below:

### Pokémon

 Why are one of the Pokéballs square, and why do three of the moves done by the Pikachu knock the Pikachu out?

## Trivia

• Here is a picture with the fifth option that could not be included in the top image
• Let's see if BSD is any easier to install nowadays.:
• There used to be a sixth option: "Gravity. Lots of it." However, it no longer appears.
• In one panel, Hairy is drawn in bed without his hair — see the Waking up pictures.
• Some pictures are used often and some very rarely:
• The most common pictures are "Not very effective", Throwing, Waiting and Leaving the House.
• The rarest pictures that can be found via permalink are The Little Prince, The beach and An exponential chart.
• As of late July 2021, there are several pictures from the complete list that no longer seem to be available — so not only are they rare, they are extinct in the comic if no one has a permalink to a comic where they appear.
• 2 pictures are listed as missing two years later, on April 1, 2016, and they can be seen under themes where notices have made it clear where they are.
• They are the one with Hairy walking alone seen in silhouette, and the one "after arguing" where Hairy is leaving.
• The other 147 images are all accounted for.
• This one has (simplified) Chinese characters in it. It would roughly translate to: "These sentences have no meaning. With no meanings, there is nothing to say. How do I arrange it into a haiku format then?" It is arranged in haiku: 5 syllables, 7 syllables, 5 syllables. In traditional Chinese characters, it would be "句子没有意。意也没有話不話。怎麼來俳句？"
• This one also has Chinese characters in it. It would translate to "No" or "Not good"
• And this one has French.
• This example] has two commas in a row, which is obviously wrong.

### Record length

#### The all time longest comics by panel

• Top three.
• Please only include clearly different storylines:
1. 77 panels — Tiles, space/dinosaur double dream, boomerang, exploding rocket.
2. 50 panels — Tiles, double hole dream, boomerang, and exploding rocket
3. 46 panels — Tiles, hole dream, hole dream, boomerang, exploding rocket, bird passing.
• There may be no upper boundary!
• But then this is the list of the longest comics with most panels as found so far.
• Please note the themes included in the comic.
• Please move beaten records down and delete the fourth.

#### Longest by themes

• Click to expand:

Include only more than one if the story is clearly different from from the record.

1. Dreams (most often multiple):
1. 77 panels — Tiles; two dreams, one by each character; space; dinosaur attack.
2. 50 panels — Tiles; hole dream; boomerang; exploding rocket.
3. 41 panels — Political debate; hole dream; boomerang.
4. 39 panels — Political debate; politics dream; boomerang; exploding rocket.
5. 36 panels — Tiles; hole dream; blowtorch laptop; rocket take-off dream.
6. 36 panels — Political debate; hole dream; Hairy gets hit in the face by boomerang.
7. 35 panels — Tiles; the hole dream; the shovel/blowtorch and then hole agan dream; boomerang.
8. 28 panels — BSD; hole dream that goes back to starting point.
9. 26 panels — Tiles; two different dreams by the same character after hole and rocket.
10. 22 panels — Tiles; two different dreams by the same character after hole and dinosaur attack.
11. 21 panels — Tiles; the hole dream twice, once by each character.
1. More than two dreams in one storyline have yet to be seen.
2. Boomerang:
1. 77 panels — Tiles; two dreams, one by each character; space; dinosaur attack.
2. 50 panels — Tiles; double hole dream; boomerang; exploding rocket
3. 41 panels — Political debate; hole dream; boomerang.
4. 39 panels — Political debate (in a dream); boomerang; exploding rocket.
5. 35 panels — Political debate (in a dream); Hairy gets smacked in the face by the boomerang.
6. 34 panels — Political debate (in a dream); Knit Cap and then Hairy get smacked in the face by the boomerang.
7. 30 panels — Tiles; rocket dream; boomerang hits Knit Cap in the face so he puts it down. He then picks up another one.
3. Space:
1. 77 panels — Tiles; two dreams, one by each character; space; dinosaur attack.
2. 42 panels — Tiles; spaaaace.
3. 33 panels — Political debate, rocket, pass by spaceship twice.
4. 30 panels — Tiles; rocket, which leads on to The Little Prince.
5. 24 panels — Tiles; zoom-in on The Little Prince.
4. Dinosaur:
1. 77 panels — Tiles, two dreams one by each character, after space and dinosaur attack.
2. 22 panels — Tiles; hole dream; dinosaur dream.
3. 15 panels — Tiles; dinosaur dream; boomerang hits him in the face.
5. Political debate:
1. 41 panels — Political debate; hole dream; boomerang.
2. 35 panels — Political debate within a dream; Hairy gets smacked in the face by the boomerang.
3. 31 panels — Political debate; explosive bananas. This includes the meanwhile image.
6. Blowtorch:
1. 36 panels — Tiles; hole dream; blowtorch; rocket take-off dream.
2. 26 panels — BSD; blowtorch; moving past Pokémon twice
3. 25 panels — Tiles; hole dream; blowtorch.
7. Pokémon:
1. 28 panels — Tiles; Pikachu; a very long fight with 9 moves (none of which are effective).
2. 26 panels — BSD; blowtorch; moving past the Pokémon after an ineffective move; Pikachu talks; they move on only to meet a second Pikachu/
3. 24 panels — Refreshing after no new email; long fight and an eventual 'Super Effective'; Megan pokes it.
4. 22 panels — Tiles; moving past Pokémon; a 'Super Effective'; Megan pokes it.
5. 22 panels — BSD; short fight; an eventual 'not very effective'; Pikachu talks; they move on
8. Sharks
1. 22 panels — Tiles; dream, indirectly after launch; only one picture in the ocean at the end.
2. 13 panels — BSD; longest going straight to the ocean sequence (four images); reaching beach and walking on (i.e. directly without dream).
9. Salesman
1. 28 panels — Space dream; Hairy meets White Hat.
2. 15 panels — Political debate; dinosaur dream; Hairy meets White Hat.
3. 13 panels — Tiles; hole dream; Hairy meets White Hat; they reach the chart scene (last picture that way).

#### Longest by starting point

• Click to expand:

Only the longest:

1. 'These stupid tiles... I'll just play one more game.': 77 panels.
2. 'Oh, hey, There's some kind of political thing going on': 41 panels.
3. 'Let's see if BSD is any easier to install nowadays': 29 panels.
4. 'Refresh ... No new email ... Refresh ... No new tweets ... Refresh ...': 24 panels.
5. 'Hurry! We're in talks with Facebook.': 13 panels and also 13 panels but two different dreams.
6. 'Gravity. Lots of it.': 12 panels. (This is no longer among the starting options, so it cannot grow [meaning that this is the longest possible now].)

#### Most unique images

• Click to expand:

In the longest sequences, many images repeat several times.

• This record could be more interesting than those that use most images.
• Although it could have turned out much the same, there is a repeated panel in one of the first two sequences.
• Sadly, this is rather tedious to check out.

Here are the longest for only clearly different images:

1. 48 unique images - 77 panels.
2. 35 unique images - 36 panels (only the very first image repeated twice).
3. 33 unique images - 50 panels.
4. 29 unique images - 35 panels.
5. 26 unique images - 41 panels.

#### Most actual choices

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In the longest sequences, many images have no choice but just a Continue.

• Other images have two choices in one.

Here are only the longest for only clearly different routes:

1. 13 choices — 77 panels.
2. 11 choices — 50 panels.
3. 9 choices — 36 panels and 9 choices - 28 panels.
4. 8 choices — 35 panels.
5. 7 choices — 41 panels.

# Discussion

During the first few weeks there were so much talk on this page, that it became too long. The solution was to remove the page from the explanation. But now almost no one makes any comment anymore. To help with this I will try to collapse all the original talk - last entry (mine) is already a month old. It will always be possible to see all the old comments by pressing the expand button to the far right. So feel free to comment below again - then someone might notice that there has been written something new again! Kynde (talk) 22:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Click to expand:

I've had the story loop back to the first frame, so it wouldn't surprise me if this could go on infinitely if it had the available dialogue options.

This is going to be a hell of a thing. Good luck... H (talk) 15:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I think this is one of those times when the custom field might come in handy. Duplicating Randall's code seems like it might be difficult, and it might just be easier to link to the original page. Probably. Davidy²²[talk] 15:47, 1 April 2014 (UTC)b
I think it should just show a screenshot of the initial image and options 173.245.50.61 02:49, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

There's always new story lines, even when you think you've read them all, new ones appear to replace them. I don't think it'll ever be possible to record them all. 108.162.212.192 15:55, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

The text changes, but there are recurring themes with the panels. The rocket, the big hole, the little hole, Dinosaurcomics, pokemon, waking up, stranded swimming.........H (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

When I go to XKCD, all I see is the comic from Monday... weird. --Jeff (talk) 16:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Same here... and a lot of space below it. Z (talk) 17:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I think that happens when you have refreshed the page too many time -- kind of an anti spam for user submissions. I simply create an anonymous browser window and I got back to the real page once xkcd was not able to track me as a returning user. Spongebog (talk) 17:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Currently there appears to be a bug. Instead of the evolving, crowd-sourced comic, I just see an off-center copy of the previous comic, 1349: Shouldn't Be Hard. Screenshot here. UPDATE: it appears to be a bug in the XSRF-blocking code. Chrome console shows me the error "XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://c1.xkcd.com/graph/1/. The 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header has a value 'http://xkcd.com' that is not equal to the supplied origin. Origin 'http://www.xkcd.com' is therefore not allowed access." FURTHER UPDATE: you can work around this bug by going to http://xkcd.com instead of http://www.xkcd.com! It also doesn't work if you have HTTPS Everywhere enabled. 108.162.216.38 16:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

• I can confirm this bug in Firefox. Weirdly, the work-around functioned one time for me, but now going to "xkcd.com" rather than "www.xkcd.com" just gives me a copy of 1349 as well. 199.27.130.180 17:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
The workaround didn't work for me, I still got monday's comic on either URL. (Chromium 36.0.1919.0 (260611), Mac OS 10.9.2) Z (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Same here. Used IE and Firefox. Removed the "www." and haven't. (Never used https:// at all.) Tried InPrivate (and FF equivalent) browsers. Gone into the code and can't even fudge it manually from <div id="comic"><img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/shouldnt_be_hard.png" title="Every choice, no matter how small, begins a new story." alt="Lorenz" /> <script type="text/javascript">Bernardo.comic({el: \$('#comic')}) </script></div>, and the rest, manually. (Indeed, that shows why I get 1349's "shouldn't be hard" image, by default.) Pity. 141.101.89.224 02:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• I only get a blank page with on the bottom a link to the comic 1349. Both on 2 firefoxes (different systems) and a chromium. so however wonderfull it might be, the delivery is less then stellar. 173.245.53.145 15:54, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

This comic introduced(?) a font of its own of Randalls comic type. I don't know if it has been sitting there for long, but I just noticed it: http://xkcd.com/fonts/xkcd-Regular.eot -- phiarc 108.162.219.12 17:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Is it the same as was used in Externalities? H (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Does everyone have these options in some order for the first tile?

• Refresh... No New Email... Refresh .. No New Tweets... Refresh...
• These Stupid Tiles... I'll Just Play One More Game
• Oh. Hey. There's Some Kind Of Politicial Thing Going On.
• Let's See If BSD Is Any Easier to Install Nowadays

--Jeff (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:0cd52ed0-bb15-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd There's a frame with Chinese in it! 141.101.99.118 18:06, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

If so, we can begin to build a map of at least the first set of options before the crowd-sourced ones. --Jeff (talk) 17:56, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, though the second-tier options have changed H (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
The first level options may be constant (Im seeing the same as Jeff), but I suspect that the following options is based on some sort of ckick though statitics / machine learning -- which means that the will continue to change until Randall closes off the 'voting' -- if 1193: Externalities is anything to go by that should be within the next 24-48 hours, at which point automating the collection of story lines may be possible. Spongebog (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to transcript some of what I get at least through the first few levels and then we can start with a list of options for those who don't want to go through them all. --Jeff (talk) 18:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I have no idea how one would do this, but it would be cool to render the transcript as a tree of some sort; having one vertical list will be hard to follow for more than a few decisions. 199.27.130.180 00:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
New initial option! I just got "Hurry! We're in talks with Facebook." In place of the "refresh" option. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:2b330d48-bb01-11e3-8003-002590d77bdd --108.162.242.8 23:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Ohh, this comic is buggy and the link here at the top gives just the page from Monday, showing errors on debuggers. But removing the WWW from URL helps. Further more I can't see that the result of the choices is dynamic. So let's prove this. --Dgbrt (talk) 19:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Have a look at http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/2/2b/lorenz_combination1.png and http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/9/9a/lorenz_combination2.png and you can see the option orders are changing -- this is a typical artifact of A/B testing where randomization of options is needed to avoid selection bias. I have futher observed "your car is on fire" instead of the "dinosaur" option, hence not only the orders are channging but the content as well -- maybe somebody else can capture this. Spongebog (talk) 22:08, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

How are new dialogue suggestions approved? Are they random, by popular vote (unlikely, not very many people would suggest the same thing), or is Randall approving them one by one? Z (talk) 20:26, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

They may not need to be explicitly approved at all -- one of the beutiful things about click though measures is that the public votes for what is good by clicking -- this is also a factor in search ranking by your favorite search engine where statistics are driving the entire show -- in a search engine some input to the statistical process comes from the web pages, but other comes from what people are actually clicking Spongebog (talk) 22:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

What is this a screenshot of? It's zoomed out so far. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:5b5bd04e-b9d6-11e3-8008-002590d77bdd Haithere (talk) 20:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

you mean this : http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/a1-2014/Rl92nFEWd9huvXABNkHKHg.png ? Spongebog (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
It appears to be a screen shot from a flight simulator program of some sort, however im not able to tell which, and since it is most likely an 'in-game' screen short we will never find out unless somebody else is playing this precises flight simulator program Spongebog (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I am not certain, but I strongly suspect that is Kerbal Space Program 108.162.242.111 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
it really is Kerbal Space Program, or KSP for short 108.162.219.65 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
found this image from KSP http://i.imgur.com/UofvQ.png Spongebog (talk) 09:07, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

A transcript is going to be futile. It appears as though the comic may go on indefinitely (I've definitely had some branches continue extending until I've seen frames that were present in other branches). I suspect what's happening here is that... options are "suggested", and those suggestions are displayed at random to people. The ones with the most clickthroughs begin to appear more often, until eventually the top 4 are "locked in" and no more suggestions can be made. Very creative! But I'm not convinced that Randall is making frames in near-real-time, nor am I even convinced he's part of the approval process at all. I suspect it's all automated. 108.162.215.28 00:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It seems it is possible to have the same option appear twice in the first panel. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:be7a3304-b685-11e3-8001-94de80a03a29 --173.245.54.48 10:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

They are not the same options -- the text differes where one option has "I'll" with a captal I and the other option is 'i'll' with a lowercase I -- I guess some prankster submitted a very similar text and somehow that got included. The branching also differs for the two options. Spongebog (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Is it still supposed to work or was it turned off? All I see is Monday comics ... and no errors in firebug console. Oh, wait, there is javascript error: Timestamp: 04/02/14 12:56:21 Error: TypeError: this.\$lastPanel is null Source File: http://xkcd.com/1350/bernardo.min.js Line: 2 -- Hkmaly (talk) 11:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It still works for me -- try to clear your cookies or use an anonymous window or go to xkcd.com (no www no https) or some of the other helpful suggestions on this page to overcome some of the buggy nature of this page. Spongebog (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

tl;dr, but I applaud Randall's creativity. Added to the Colossal time sinks category. tbc (talk) 13:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Has it restarted? It used to work just fine on my browser but now only the first panel is available, after clicking an option it said my suggestion has been submitted. Great when it works though, thanks Randal. Jet_proppeled_elephant108.162.219.35 14:53, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It feels like there are a bunch of "dead-end panels", that we never really get past. One example the "bright background" strip, in which we only see the shadows of the two characters. Nobody seems to care what happens after those. 108.162.245.8 18:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I found a Dinosaur Comics reference, permalink: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:3d243960-b9b6-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd Has this been found before? 173.245.55.73 20:08, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't have time to do it myself, but most of the space images from this path are not in the images page. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:6490cc4a-b9f0-11e3-8009-002590d77bdd Zweisteine (talk) 23:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I'm gonna add those. Daniel Carrero (talk) 23:38, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Great! And now I found another: Pikachu uses Ethylene Dichloride. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:6f59d766-ba95-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd I'll add it to the but about pikachu in the comic, but the pictures are up to someone else.Zweisteine (talk) 23:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Slightly different space path, in which the rocket expodes: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:dd99ea0e-ba04-11e3-8017-002590d77bdd Zweisteine (talk) 23:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Good. I've finished adding all images that you mentioned. Also, the two last images of the slightly different space path were not in the images page, now I added them too. Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Pikachu died! Radicality failed -> Pikachu in shock! http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:5c565bf2-ba05-11e3-8017-002590d77bdd --eternia 7:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Pikachu uses Graph Theory. How is that not effective?! http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:52f2389c-baaf-11e3-801f-002590d77bdd --eternia 7:47, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Pikachu uses Ant Colony. Uwah... http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:2b707ed6-ba97-11e3-8006-002590d77bdd --eternia 8:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
1 shark instead of 3. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:9ba111ee-ba96-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd --eternia 8:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
0 sharks. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:e0e4d984-baaf-11e3-8026-002590d77bdd --eternia 8:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm gonna add those too. Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:41, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Are there any panels that have two speech bubbles that are not dead ends? It seems that there are never any options for the second bubble, and sometimes the first bubble has options that would fit in the second bubble after the other options for the first bubble. Maybe submissions for the second bubble accidentally end up in the first instead? Another bug? Zweisteine (talk) 23:56, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

There's a change for us still-bugged people (well, me at least). The "show previous comic" part is gone. It shows a blank area (instead of Comic 1349 and a blank area of the same size) and the page-source shows that the <img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/shouldnt_be_hard.png" title="Every choice, no matter how small, begins a new story." alt="Lorenz" /> part has now been excised from the page. That's on Javascript-enabled, cookie-enabled Firefox and IE browsers, and every valid URL configuration one can think of (including shift-refreshing to force redownloading, just in case it was page-cache issues as well). I'll update the Bugs section of the explanation page with a summary of that, if you don't mind. 141.101.88.211 01:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

We need some place to discuss certain issues. I give it a shot below Kynde (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Transcipt discussion
Design
• What about four transcripts - one for each of the four first original choices?
• Should these transcripts be on a separate page? It becomes tedious to scroll to the discussion page...Kynde (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• Could we use the hide option so you only see the options from the first panel. Then you unhide to see the next panel etc. This would be a little like the comic and would make it much easier to read and it would not be such a long page! Kynde (talk) 10:35, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm working on the hide option. Daniel Carrero (talk) 15:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I now implemented the hide option. It looks good! in my opinion. It should be easy to edit. It would be too much work to convert the whole thing to the collapsible version so, sorry but I just removed the whole thing and started from the very beginning. This[2] is the link to the old version, in case anyone wants to help converting it to the collapsible version. Daniel Carrero (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I did the same for trivia with a separate page for the old version that can be expanded if anyone wishes. And all the work is not lost. I have linked to it from trivia but it is here: 1350: Lorenz/Transcript. Kynde (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
• How will the transcript work for when two characters speak? Those cases do exist; they're not all bugged. For example, in the "OpenBSD Branch", "Why not haiku?" and "Let's go exploring!" have further responses. --199.27.128.63 06:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Characters
• Where does the name Dave come from for the hairy guy who comes in after the first panel? I can see it once in the transcript - but it is said by White hat the sales guy. I'm not sure it is his name and the chatagory for hairy is assigned to the comic! Kynde (talk) 21:16, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• Hat guy? Is it a hat? Is there not a better English word for the type of "hat" worn by the main character from the first panel? It is not a hat like white or black hat! Kynde (talk) 21:18, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• I named him Hat Guy originally to make things easier. Feel free to change the name, I guess :) Knit Cap Guy, maybe? If a change is warranted, a simple search-and-replace should do it. Also, I'm not sure it's a guy or a girl... But the previous text was also treating him as male to begin with, anyway. Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• Is the right politician = Cueball?
• Who is the left? Kynde (talk) 21:23, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Isn't is likely that the characters only have names given to them by us readers in our suggestions? They don't necessarily have constant names. Zweisteine (talk) 23:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Exactly my point. I think we should stick with hairy guy and maybe Knit Cap Guy! Kynde (talk) 10:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

I see you already changed Hat Guy to Knit Cap Guy and Dave to Hairy. Knit Cap Guy is a nice name. Originally, I would disagree with you and insist we should stick to Dave because that's what the character is called in one storyline of the strip itself, but I see he is also called Frank in other timeline. Since he has multiple names, using just Hairy is better in my opinion, too. Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Knit Cap Guy is probably a Girl. Just sayin'. 173.245.52.28 12:22, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Probably! Originally I thought it was Megan with a knit cap on. Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
It IS a girl! http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:1e4325a2-baaf-11e3-801f-002590d77bdd 173.245.48.66 21:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Well I think you are correct - that it is a girl. However you can NEVER use text in the comic to decide - because it is user created - I could have written the same line with guy instead of girl! Anyway - could someone change Knit Cap Guy to Knit Cap Girl? Kynde (talk) 10:04, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Can see it has been done - great Kynde (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I've found a story where he/she is male! Thus contradicting the story above, where he/she is female, and proving that we really can't use text to determine the sex. Here we have "Beanie Man". http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:b6fcd098-ba98-11e3-8008-002590d77bdd
(But... She looks female-ish enough to me, so I personally feel inclined to keep Knit Cap Girl in the article. Also, for laziness if nothing else. Feel free to disagree with me on that.) Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Also, sometimes she is called Lorenz. http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:bcc77a5c-ba23-11e3-801b-002590d77bdd Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I always mentally called the guy 'Hikaru' because the guy's hat reminded me of the Nice Hat that Hikaru Azuma wore a lot in With the Light. Greyson (talk) 03:55, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Other
• Seems like the permalink at the top of the transcript does not work for me anymore - then they will be useless! Else they are the best way to quote different lines of the comic. Kynde (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh, now they work again. ;) Kynde (talk) 10:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

The permalinks has stopped working for me Spongebog (talk) 20:45, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that the initial four options presented to the reader are now fixed and do not change. "These stupid tiles..." and "Gravity. Lots of it." are no longer available options. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've played the comic many times over the past couple of days and I've never received those two options). Should the transcript be edited to reflect that? Enchantedsleeper (talk) 21:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Chategories not yet included

Should they be?

• I have seen the word Raptor mentioned - so should velociraptor be a chategory? Kynde (talk) 21:21, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• Cueball? I.e. the politician on the right? Kynde (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
• I understand that many categories has been deleted as all text references can be user generated. But when there is a drawing with a dinosaur then this categories should be included etc. Kynde (talk) 19:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
• I would like to discuss the number of categories. If anything is in thks comics pictures then it should be included as a category. So dinos and Pokémon for sure as well as character's and collor. So I include some again - please do not delete. If you need to find where Pokémon has been referenced this commic should come in the list! Kynde (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Images

I created 1350: Lorenz/Images with all the images I could find in the comic. I'm not sure if I should have left them in the main page 1350: Lorenz, but feel free to decide what to do with them. Also, I tried using the tag <gallery>, but I couldn't make it work, so I used a lot of divs. Daniel Carrero (talk) 23:23, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Great idea - just what I hoped someone would and could do. Thanks ;) Is it easy to add new images to the page if they show up? Kynde (talk) 10:32, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome! :) It's pretty easy... I explained in the images page how exactly you would save a new image if they show up. Daniel Carrero (talk) 13:52, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Can see there keep appearing new images from the text above. Kynde (talk) 10:39, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for this work, but nobody knows if this is complete. --Dgbrt (talk) 19:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Many-worlds interpretation

The title text "Every choice, no matter how small, begins a new story" might as well be a hint to Hugh Everett III 's "Many-worlds interpretation" of quantum theory. 108.162.219.74 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Except that the title is Lorenz a direct reference to the guy with the butterfly effect... Kynde (talk) 10:37, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Can't it be both? The Butterfly Effect can be seen as one consequence of the Many-Worlds interpretation. A choice as simple as whether (or where) a butterfly flaps its wings can send our entire universe down a different timeline, in which a hurricane occurs. 108.162.216.49 19:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Most, maybe all pictures do correspond to an existing comic here

I'm calling on you to not destroy a first simple explain, even the transcript. But nearly every picture belongs to a former comic — this has to be explained at the Themes section. We have some dinosaurs, but there is much more. Please help on this issue. --Dgbrt (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

After I understood what you mean I agree. All pictures collected should be explained in the themes section and preferably with a line to a story that includes the picture. There are so many I can't find. Some may never be available again... ? Kynde (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
What are you referring to? Has anyone deleted something important? Hope it wasn't me? Kynde (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Well I can see it was me. We obviously disagree with what could be a trivia item and with which categories should be included even obvious ones. There has before been mention of missing pieces of hats etc and when there is one in hundreds of images with an error then it could make a fun trivia item in my opinion! I will stop editing and let you decide what to do with this comic? Kynde (talk) 22:30, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
You totally misunderstand me. I'm asking for an explain to every picture because it should belong to a former comic.
Further more I'm just trying to keep the explain as simple as possible; individual error experiences should not be posted at the explain. I did remove that content in order to keep it simple as possible to an ordinary reader.
Please improve the picture explains, but also please keep that explain simple as possible to readers are not interested on all that crap done by Randall.
--Dgbrt (talk) 22:38, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Great and thanks for this explain and sorry I was grumpy in my reply before. Do you mean there should be an explanation for every single picture? Maybe this should be moved to a separate page like the list of images - they take up lots of space in the explain page - or they could be hided like the new transcript? Kynde (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Have begun the full image explanation...Kynde (talk) 23:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Visual tree / map?

How hard would it be to come up with a tree graphing out the different choices? The nodes could be panels and the lines could represent text choices. Has anyone tried it? --108.162.221.34 23:40, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I added hide/show functionality to the transcript. It's easier to read and navigate now. Daniel Carrero (talk) 15:59, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Great - this was also what I had in mind :-) Kynde (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Not so great it has been deleted... Again! I have inserted a link to the last page before Dgbrt deleted all 25000 signs. Considering the enormous work done to create this transcript I think we should let it be at least awailable as a trivia link. I cannot create the page from my tablet, but would rather have a lorenz transcript page than an old version like now. Maybe on this page again? 1350: Lorenz/Transcript. Kynde (talk) 23:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I restored the old version in 1350: Lorenz/Transcript. (Also, I used divs this time rather than templates.) Daniel Carrero (talk) 05:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
I got my suggestion as part of the main story!

I noticed in the "references to video games" section that "Actually it's the final castle - grab your fire flower!" was one of the options. I suggested that! 108.162.212.27 17:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Are we sure the title is not related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_gauge_condition ?

For example, in Italy, the Lorenz Gauge Condition is dubbed "The Lorenz's choice". 108.162.212.218 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Should there be an interactive comic category?

It is kind of covered by the dynamic category, but between click and drag and this, as well as possible future comics, might it need to be its own seperate new category? Athang (talk) 23:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

The "stupid tiles" option has vanished from panel 1. 199.27.130.222 00:14, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Is that for good or just for you? How many times did you reload and did you try different browsers? It should always be awailable via a saved permalink, like you findin the transcript. Kynde (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
This probably happens at the same time for all users, considering that I read 199.27.130.222's message immediately after he/she sent it and at that point the "stupid tiles" option had vanished for me as well, but this was clearly temporary since it's back now.
I only tested on Firefox. Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
I still get this option?? 199.27.130.216 22:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Records in most panels

I have started a collection of records. I just entered what I could find to give an example. I was sure that my pheble attempts soon would be helped sore by someone who had saved the good ones... And already this is happening. Please continue to improve the records and also add more themes if I left them out Kynde (talk) 17:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Gravity lots of it?

I have never seen this option. Could someone post a permalink to such a story - could be as a record. Kynde (talk) 20:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Some cool stuff i found, don't know if anyone wants to add these to the main page

Reddit and rockets: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:602c39a8-ba92-11e3-8006-002590d77bdd

More BSD Pikachu: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:f5760770-baae-11e3-801f-002590d77bdd

Bird-powered car: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:cc4467b2-baf3-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd

This happens a lot: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:b69f6096-b9f0-11e3-8009-002590d77bdd

These stupid lines: http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:360411c2-baa2-11e3-8012-002590d77bdd

199.27.130.216 22:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your findings. This has to be added to the explain, your titles on this are GREAT! Maybe you — or someone else — does have a nice idea how to publish all this permalinks in a proper way.--Dgbrt (talk) 23:39, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
More (mostly dream recursion):

Lord of the rings: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:40a1ac80-ba06-11e3-8017-002590d77bdd

Never seen it loop this many times: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:20698602-bbb1-11e3-801c-002590d77bdd

Even more looping: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:75e8f03e-baaf-11e3-801f-002590d77bdd

Looping to a rocket: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:3aa7da8e-bae7-11e3-8002-002590d77bdd

Dream recursion: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:5e94d028-bb7d-11e3-8012-002590d77bdd

Where did the Pikachu come from?: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:97c42da2-bb01-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd

Ethylene dichloride: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:93312202-ba4f-11e3-8037-002590d77bdd

Even more rockets: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:8440e346-bb16-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd

Another blowtorch: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:97cbd552-bb01-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd

Most different stories i've seen in one: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:60d11a70-bb16-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd

199.27.130.216 21:33, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

More:

Long pikachu fight: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:d87d8344-bafb-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd

Very pikachu: http://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:81c9e8c8-ba1d-11e3-8018-002590d77bdd 199.27.130.216 22:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I haven't seen them all - but have you checked the records at the bottom of the explain page - those you call pretty long does not seem to get close to the 77 picture record... Are there any new pictures not featured in the picture page linked to from the top of the explain? Else this does not seem so interesting to me... ;-) Kynde (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Ah so there were interesting stuff around. And I can see that at least one of them has already been added as a Pokémon record. Great - cool if you wrote how many panels - or if there where new pictures - it would be easier to look through them. The double dream I had been looking for, thanks I will add it to the record page under dreams Kynde (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Seen them all and added several to the record for themes trivia. Thanks - but please more info~(length, themes) if you still care to share Kynde (talk) 15:36, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Finishing the explanation

I have just done a huge job putting all the images from the list in under the themes sections. I hope others can take over and find permalinks that include all the images that are not yet on references in the links I have inserted. Also there are some of the first options that seeem to not exist anymore (Gravity lots of it) and also there was the error with the same line twice. I found it one day, but then there where no new images if you chose it. I did not save the permalink and now it seems like it is all gone. Good work guys and girls - I have a holiday comming up with no much computer time... Kynde (talk) 02:51, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Greasemonkey Script

I've just mad a script to visit random stories, and record the corresponding transcripts. It's available here: https://github.com/edfel/Lorenz/ . I hope someone can find it useful! Edfel. 108.162.254.163 14:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Dump

One idea: Maybe someone could create a script to automatically navigate Lorenz and create a dump of all the results, to fill 1350: Lorenz/Transcript. I know more-or-less how that would work in "pseudocode" so I could help but I'm not going to do it (writing actual code, testing, debugging, accounting for each individual frame, etc) any time soon. Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Go home, Saturn, you're drunk.

Quintuple Saturn POWER! http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:9adca534-b9b0-11e3-8004-002590d77bdd 173.245.54.10 01:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

What-If XKCD

http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:b1210692-bae5-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd Recognize this one? 173.245.54.10 02:09, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Why are the punctuation marks clipping?

I don't know what's going on, but a comma looks just like a period in the comic. The letters E, F, and I also display strangely. What's going on?199.27.128.96 01:58, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Lorenz down time

Today there was no access to Lorenz. Tried both Firefox, Chrome and internet explorer. Just mentioning it here, if this is a permanent problem - so people can see how long it has been down. Kynde (talk) 18:43, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Well it was already up again now. Kynde (talk) 11:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

After inserting the collapsing talk page - the old can be seen just by clicking the expand button. But if you wish to write anything new, then do it here below at the very bottom of the talk page so it may be seen. I have this comment - after a few weeks I believe nothing new happened in this comic. I think it is now fixed. Of course this is very hard to prove. But I have completed some branches of the interactive transcript. So let me know if you can find any new options I have missed (I could have missed if there were more than four options in a panel - but not at the dead-ends! I have also just made major revisions of the explanation and it's layout - based on my observations. Kynde (talk) 22:48, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I just found a panel where it gets past the person on the comet, only one panel though... http://xkcd.com/1350/#p:25743f70-baee-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd 108.162.254.69 19:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Great. Have added the image to the list of images and to the theme above. Keep any new images coming here.--Kynde (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

It's interesting the chess player in 1112 ("Think logically") resembles the knit cap girl. It's weird that Megan (or Randall's wife) after chemotherapy also wears a cap (1141, "Two years"). Is there any possible connections between them (or simply a coincidence)?108.162.215.108 04:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I have added links to three other comics using knit caps, including the two you mentioned. Thanks. --Kynde (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I noticed that the image url noted on xkcd.com is the same as the one for #1349 - Shouldn't Be Hard. Not sure if it is caused by the interactivity disallowing an image upload, or an error on Randall's part (I'd imagine working through this comic's issues was pretty distracting). 15:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I believe this was fixed. At least it seems to look correct now. --Kynde (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

God damn I hate boomerangs now. 172.68.65.240 03:49, 22 November 2017 (UTC)Bob

Hey guys, are we still missing the ocean comics? because I found one that links there. https://www.xkcd.com/1350/#p:3df213b4-ba4f-11e3-8037-002590d77bdd . not far after though. 173.245.48.129 02:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

I found a (possibly) bug where the comic doesn't load and there's just a comic-sized blank space. 19:48, 3 January 2019 (UTC) -- Cheese12 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

As of this week I found out that Lorenz seems to have stopped working on xkcd... This makes all the permalink invalid. ;-( --Kynde (talk) 20:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I also found that people have been writing new entries from the top which meant I did not see Cheese12 comment that this was so all the way back in January 2019. I have rearranged the three comments on top to the right post order here at the bottom and added a signature for Cheese12 and a day for the edit for reference to how long it has been broken. Also removed a (now broken) permalink that was left over when a user posted something and then deleted it again. It was stick beneath my previous comment. --Kynde (talk) 20:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Looked on the webarchive and the latest version of the comic there is from July 2019. 2019-07-19. It seems correct there with the first picture with options... Of course it is no use trying to move on, either because it is a web archive or because Lorentz doesn't work anymore on xkcd. But it seems like it should not have displayed that image if it had been a recent version of the comic, as there are no image on the page now. If this is true, then it should not have been down all the time since January as Cheese12 wrote above... But I have no idea how the web archive works for such a complicated comic page? --Kynde (talk) 20:22, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
I suspect this is related to the XKCD forums being taken down. Umwelt, Externalities, Landing, and xkcloud are also down. Tbodt (talk) 19:19, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I think it's working again. Crazymachinefan (talk) 04:44, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I just found a bunch of new things that can occur including a new image. Here are the permalinks: https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:b0bcef14-baf3-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd --Knit Cap Girl rather than Hairy wakes up after the KSP rocket launch image; https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:8e2a0d7a-baf2-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd --permalink for Hairy silhouette image; https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:8a36f73e-baaf-11e3-801f-002590d77bdd --permalink for Hairy getting to a sale without lying in bed; https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:d4cd36d8-ba95-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd NEW IMAGE-- Hairy in silhouette not talking. EDIT: Here's something *fascinating*... this panel can have either one or two responses depending on what's chosen for the first. Here's the permalink - https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:b2dde69c-b9c0-11e3-8007-002590d77bdd 162.158.107.29 20:23, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Anonymous Waste of Time

I found a weird thing. https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:73113e0c-b9f6-11e3-8011-002590d77bdd If you select 15615 the comic freezes. The text doesn't appear, no new panels appear. PkmnQ (talk) 05:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

I tried it on another device, and again it froze when I selected 15615. Can someone else try to recreate it? PkmnQ (talk) 05:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
yeah it's the same for me too --Anonymous Waste of Time
I looked at the console, and an error pops up, so there's at least a tiny clue to why it happens. PkmnQ (talk) 08:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
```   Uncaught TypeError: e.replace is not a function
at Odlaw._comicText (bernardo.min.js:2)
at Odlaw._makeText (bernardo.min.js:2)
at Odlaw.chooseOption (bernardo.min.js:2)
at n (bernardo.min.js:2)
at HTMLLIElement.<anonymous> (bernardo.min.js:2)
at HTMLUListElement.dispatch (VM44 b66ed7.js:3)
at HTMLUListElement.r.handle (VM44 b66ed7.js:3)
```
My best guess is that 15615 is being interpreted as a number instead of a string. However, when I type in 5 as a new option it works correctly. It might be from some old input bug that was changed later on. PkmnQ (talk) 08:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Cleaning up

Why was the (general) grammar of this comic so bad? I am putting in hours into this comic to fix this (and what I was originally doing, which was changing all instances of 'Knit Cap Girl' to 'Knit Cap' and changing 'she/her/hers' to 'he/him/his'). I'm about 2/3 done. Beanie talk 14:14, 1st July 2021 (UTC)

Finished :D Beanie talk 22:42, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Took a while because I changed schools and I can't get onto explainxkcd on the new website (and also I'm lazy). Beanie talk 22:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Not sure if this is known, but there's a path where Theft is super effective and the first move. Not sure how to hyperlink on phone, though. It's tiles, 4096, pastel color, middle class ennui, wonder why it's socially acceptable.172.70.178.33 21:43, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I think I found the shortest possible path. https://xkcd.com/1350/#p:0b364d02-bb65-11e3-800e-002590d77bdd IJustWantToEditStuff (talk) 19:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)