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Moving Boxes
Later, when I remember that I'm calling movers, I frantically scribble over the labels and write 'NORMAL HOUSE STUFF' on all of them, which actually makes things worse.
Title text: Later, when I remember that I'm calling movers, I frantically scribble over the labels and write 'NORMAL HOUSE STUFF' on all of them, which actually makes things worse.

Explanation

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Randall talks about moving boxes and not labeling them until he forgets what's in them. Since he doesn't know what's in them, he writes silly things on the boxes as a joke. Some things are unusual/unlikely (e.g. sand, hydrants, peat) and some are abstract/impossible (e.g. elves, taupe, dark matter). Several of the categories overlap confusingly; for instance, "sand" and "silt" and "dark matter" are all generally considered as "particles"; "membranes", "edges", and "shawls" are all kinds of "manifolds"; "hooves" are part of "bison"; "fog" contains "water"; and "triangles" consist of three "edges". Another way to interpret this comic is that Randall actually has these items (or at least some of them) in the boxes and has simply forgotten which boxes contain what.

Explanation of boxes

Label Explanation
Box 1
Grids Grids are mathematical drawings; they would be constructed by drawing them, not stored in a box (though graph paper might be). May refer to a classic snipe hunt where a hazing victim is tasked with finding "a box of grid squares".
Bison Bison, sometimes mistakenly called buffalo, are large animals[citation needed] that would probably not fit in the box[citation needed].
Checkerboards The tabletop gaming boards on which one plays Checkers.
Fog Fog is essentially low-lying clouds which, being gaseous, are hard to box using only cardboard.
Box 2
Beacons A device designed to draw attention to itself, for various reasons. From the generic term "beacon" this could mean anything from electronic GPS locator beacons to miniature replicas of naval lighthouses.
Elves A fictional race (or rather, many, many fictional races) of human-like magical creatures.
Sand Fine particles of rock. While it's not unheard of for people to need to store sand, it's usually not stored along with your personal belongings on moving day.
Box 3 - Blood
Hemoglobin Hemoglobin is the protein found in red blood cells that carries oxygen around the body. This may be a solution of hemoglobin protein, but one human generally would not need a full box of it[citation needed].
Box 4
Water As with sand, it's not unheard of for, say, a laboratory to store water samples for testing. But again, these wouldn't be stored along with your personal belongings on moving day. And if this is meant to be drinking water, it would be a waste of effort; it's taken as read that any house you're moving into has its own plumbing.
Hooves Hooves are possibly best-known as horse and cow 'feet'. This could also be read as a compound word, Water-Hooves akin to water-wings.
Box 5 - Charadriiformes
Shorebirds Also known as Waders, an order of birds that wade in littoral waters.
Box 6 - Vector Space?
Oil This could mean anything from cooking oil to petroleum; either way, having a third of a box full of oil bottles is unusual, but for different reasons.
Vectors Vectors are properties with magnitude and direction, such as velocity, momentum, acceleration, etc., not physical objects, so they cannot be put in boxes.
Silt Material between sand and clay size-wise. A sediment. See sand and water above for why this is unusual. Randall has a special place in his heart for rock particles of various sizes; see https://what-if.xkcd.com/83/.
Box 7
Membranes Delicate thin pliable sheet or skin of various kinds. Usually fragile or cut easily. Not something you would expect to be packed with something sharp, which shards are likely to be, although these labels are incorrect.
Shards Broken pieces of smooth and hard objects, e.g. ceramic, glass, crystal. Something you would normally expect to be thrown out, rather than packed up for moving house.
Box 8
Shawls Shawls are a simple item of clothing, worn loosely over one's shoulders. Also being of rectangular shape, they are supposed to be worn in colder weather.
Glucose Glucose is possibly best-known as the sugar plants produce for energy, but can be manufactured.
Kits A kit is any set of tools, supplies, and/or instructions for a specific purpose. These could be first aid kits, software development kits, bomb-making kits, sewing kits... Alternatively, this may be a compound word "Glucose Kits", diabetic assay tools to help the patient regulate their blood sugar.
Box 9
Hydrants Fire hydrants are likely too big to fit in boxes, and are also simply odd objects to be packing into a box.
Particles As almost all matter is composed of particles, it is hard to find exceptions. Thus, this is very vague.
Knots Knots are things tied in ropes; they can hold things or just be there. This would be hard to put in a box without rope[citation needed].
Box 10 - Palette
Graphite Graphite is a crystalline form of carbon, where the atoms are arranged in sheets.
Taupe Taupe is a dark tan color in between brown and gray, again, not an object.
Box 11 - Gaussian surface?
Field Lines This could refer to field lines as used to depict electromagnetic fields, or possibly to the lines painted on an athletic field to mark the boundaries of play. The former are a visualization tool rather than physical objects; the latter consist of streaks of paint on grass or artificial turf, and thus neither kind of field line is the kind of physical object that could be packed into a box.
Box 12
Traps May be a reference to 'My house is full of traps' from What-If #34
Box 13
Edges Edge is a line segment joining two vertices. Even though physical objects do have edges, you cannot store edges themselves as they are just mathematical constructs.
Tribes Tribe is a social group of people, tribes existed before states were formed. It is impossible to store a group of people in the box[citation needed].
Dough Dough is a thick, malleable, sometimes elastic, paste made out of any grains, leguminous or chestnut crops. It is used in the process of cooking, but it doesn't make sense to pack it while moving.
Box 14
Dark Matter Dark matter is what scientist believe to be a big part of the mass of galaxies, but we have never observed it, so it is not possible to pack it.
Box 15
Manifolds Manifolds are akin to topological universes. Yet another mathematical construct which is impossible to pack into a box.
Box 16
Triangles Within the context of this comic, the reference is likely to the shape. On the other hand, it would not be unusual to pack one or more Triangle (musical instrument)s into a box.
Peat Peatis an accumulation of partially decayed vegetation that forms in wetland bogs, moors, mires, and swamps.
Crowns May be royal crowns, or may be the coin worth five shillings in UK pre-decimal currency.
Box 17
Scrolls A scroll is a roll of papyrus, paper, or parchment that contains writing.

According to the title text, when Randall remembers that he is calling movers, he frantically scribbles "Normal House Stuff" on all the boxes. He says this makes the situation worse, possibly because the movers see the scribble and become suspicious. Alternatively, labeling every box with the exact same phrase will make it even harder to figure out what they contain and where they should go in the new dwelling.

Transcript

[A bunch of cardboard boxes stacked up, each labeled]

Grids
Bison
Checkerboards
Fog

Beacons
Elves
Sand

Hemoglobin

Water
Hooves

Shorebirds

Oil
Vectors
Silt

Membranes
Shards

Shawls
Glucose
Kits

Hydrants
Particles
Knots

Graphite
Taupe

Field Lines

Traps

Edges
Tribes
Dough

Dark Matter

Manifolds

Triangles
Peat
Crowns

Scrolls

[A caption:] I always forget to label my moving boxes until they're sealed up and I've forgotten what's in them.

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Discussion

I think I've got some Dark Matter in a box left in my basement. Anyone knows how long you can keep this stuff until it expires? 162.158.22.72 13:36, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Mine is about 13.8 billion years old and still OK. But shouldn't about 3/4 of the boxes be filled with dark matter? --162.158.91.172 14:21, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
You probably mean 1/4 (and dark energy is the other 3/4). But we don't know how dark matter is distributed. In the extreme and unlikely case that dark matter consists entirely of MACHOs, there are no boxes with it. --172.68.54.123 01:25, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Hah! Mine's 13.81 years old.
It should be good for another 10^100 years or so. Give or take a few duotrigintillion years. 172.68.35.83 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

--Thejohnfan (talk) 14:28, 21 November 2016 (UTC)Thejohnfan

Yeah - you've really gotta be careful about labelling that stuff - since it neither absorbs nor emits electromagnetic radiation, you're going to have to use gravitational lensing techniques to figure out which box it's in - and we all know how much of a pain THAT can be on moving day! SteveBaker (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Make sure to keep it all individually wrapped. It may become unstable if allowed to mingle. --162.158.74.29 03:17, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
When I last moved house, I methodically labelled every single box with it's exact contents. Several meticulously itemized boxes contained (amongst other things) stuff like "Acrylic art paint", "Rodent poison" and "Adhesives" - and the movers saw this and refused to move about a dozen boxes because they contained things that are liquids or hazardous materials. This was more than I could fit in my car - so this became a huge deal. So next time, I'm going with "Normal House Stuff". Seriously - just label them with the room you want them dumped in at your new home and a number...write the actual contents in a MySQL database...preferably with a photo of the box before you taped it up. SteveBaker (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Label the boxes with "Normal house stuff'); DROP TABLE Boxes; --" if you're doing that. 162.158.34.137 15:16, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
How do you access the MySQL database when your computer is still packed away in a box? B jonas (talk) 16:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
The MySQL database is in a box clearly labelled "Cyberspace" so the movers know where to put it - there is a certain degree of recursion involved in this, but it can be managed. And to access it - I carry a phone...although the magic USB-C to USB-C cable needed to charge it is almost certainly in a box labelled "Attic 237", "Basement 96" or "Garage 49(a)". SteveBaker (talk) 14:34, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Note that there is a similar use of "Normal" in https://xkcd.com/1530/ 141.101.98.151 16:54, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Protip: Label boxes you don't want the movers to know about with "Party Favors." 172.68.79.83 16:22, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, it's a great idea to obfuscate your items with "less valuable" names, or replace everything with numbers + room names, like "Kitchen 2." Just don't lose the inventory list. 162.158.255.116 10:48, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

The explanation for Bison says they're "also known as buffalo". Not sure if that's technically accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison Excerpt: "Although sometimes referred to historically as a "buffalo", it is only distantly related to the true buffalo." 108.162.215.192 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Yes, but colloquially, this is acceptable. For another example, see "Indian vs. Native American."162.158.75.100 18:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

The "shards" could also be a reference to "sharding", as in "MongoDB is web scale"[1] CrazyVaccine (talk) 17:30, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

membranes shards may also refer to sponges 172.68.78.133 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

I read the "shawls glucose kits" as "shawls, glucose [testing] kits", not as "shawls, glucose, kits" 108.162.215.191 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

>>Vectors ARE physical objects in the wonderful world of epidemiology... also, I believe that it's incorrect to say that you can not put the 'physics' kind of vector into a box... just not, uh, physically, more theoretically? Also the same for field lines (unless it is full of dug up painted clods from the lines from an actual soccer field or something), but you could absolutely place a magnet next to a box, and now there are field lines in it, ammirght? -(unsigned, embarrassed, pedantic, etc) 173.245.48.84 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Come on people this is funny! While Randal may not remember which box things are in, we must assume he KNOWS what stuff he has - ergo he really has all this stuff or at least these are keywords that represent real stuff (like "triangles" could be drafting set-squares) The joke is trying to figure out what on earth these keywords might actually represent! It being xkcd and Randal, we should not assume these are all "normal" items found in typical housholds but may be computer and tech linked. 108.162.242.118 22:17, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad he's keeping the shorebirds and oil separate. Not everyone is so considerate. Jkshapiro (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

My father tells me about the depressing sight of removing dead grebes at his workplace. 162.158.255.116 10:48, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Some of the boxes could be considered mathematical constructs, i.e., one box contains all the vectors, and is thus a vector space. Another contains edges, 12 of them to be precise. One box appears to be either a Gaussian surface or a magnetic yoke, containing field lines. --162.158.74.29 03:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Reference #14, Dark Matter: perhaps fairer to say you can't *knowingly* pack it? After all, if you can't observe it then it might be there without you knowing about it. (talk) 07:15, 22 Nov 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if there is a reason why he grouped items in certain ways. For instance, "shards" would destroy "membranes", so it is funny that he put them together. But why did he put "beacons", "elves" and "sand" together?

Trying to make sense of the word choices. The boxes contain elements from the following domains: - biology (ex: hemoglobin, bison, shorebirds, membranes) - physics (ex: dark matter, field lines, particles, taupe (the light frequency)) - chemistry (ex: graphite, glucose) - mathematics (ex: vectors, triangles, manifolds, edges) - fantasy (ex: scrolls, elves, traps, fog) - improbable objects (ex: hydrant, tribes, sand, shards). Do you see other ways to classify the objects? -- P500g (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Has no one noticed yet the obvious political references of this comic? 141.101.98.134 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

No what is it? 108.162.215.109 03:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Me neither.... All I can think is how the election went the wrong way, and many people said they'd move to Canada, so maybe that's an implied link, that now he has to move? - NiceGuy1 162.158.126.227 04:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. And hey! Suddenly I'm not being harrassed with Captchas when I contribute! Yay, I'm finally being accepted as human! :) NiceGuy1 (talk) 03:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

This may be a hidden reference to schrodinger's cat https://xkcd.com/45/ -- pointing out that cat may not be the only thing that may or may not be in a box? 108.162.215.109 03:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

There is no box with a cat in it. Or is there? -- P500g (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
What about a box with a bobcat? :) 162.158.255.116 02:55, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm surprised to see no mention or over-analysis of the fact that the "Hydrants Particles Knots" box doesn't say "Contents:" (and is the only such box) :) - NiceGuy1 162.158.126.227 04:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. NiceGuy1 (talk) 03:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I thought the joke was graphite and taupe is literally what the box is made of? The box is colored taupe and he wrote on it with graphite. Also I was thinking that water + hooves = glue. Zipfian (talk) 19:04, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Maybe the kits are of this kind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_(association_football) --162.158.133.144 12:54, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Do I add comments at the top or the bottom? I was thinking maybe this cartoon might be an indicator that Randall is moving to Canada with all the other movie stars who said they were leaving if Trump becomes president, especially since Randall was a supporter of Hillary. 108.162.216.76 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Beachvolleyball field lines might be boxed because they are in fact 48m of blue ribbon which is usually carried along by the coach wound on a reel as they tend to disappear from lonely courts. - Sword Flanders 162.158.114.88 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Nobody mentions that all boxes contain dark matter? It's just so spread out that any given box contains very little dark matter. Nitpicking (talk) 02:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)