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An easy way to annoy many mathematicians is to make fanciful claims about the {{w|Golden Ratio}}. It's been claimed, with varying levels of credibility, to be detectable in many natural and human-made situations, often with the dubious subjective claim that using the ratio in some particular way makes an image more "beautiful". The {{w|Golden Spiral}} is a spiral whose growth factor is this ratio; a common (though slightly geometrically inaccurate) way to illustrate the spiral is to draw curves through a set of squares whose side lengths shrink according to the Golden Ratio. The result looks rather like [[Randall|Randall's]] drawing here.
 
An easy way to annoy many mathematicians is to make fanciful claims about the {{w|Golden Ratio}}. It's been claimed, with varying levels of credibility, to be detectable in many natural and human-made situations, often with the dubious subjective claim that using the ratio in some particular way makes an image more "beautiful". The {{w|Golden Spiral}} is a spiral whose growth factor is this ratio; a common (though slightly geometrically inaccurate) way to illustrate the spiral is to draw curves through a set of squares whose side lengths shrink according to the Golden Ratio. The result looks rather like [[Randall|Randall's]] drawing here.
  
However, Randall hasn't used the Golden Ratio at all; he's just drawn a spiral (''not'' the Golden Spiral) through a common diagram showing the {{w|Paper size#A series|A Series}} of standard paper sizes, but in landscape instead of portrait (this diagram is commonly drawn in portrait). These papers aren't squares at all, but rectangles whose side lengths shrink by a factor of the square root of 2. Additionally, the paper sizes shrink by a factor of one half, so the area is filled in a geometric series.  This is sometimes called a ''silver'' rectangle, although the {{w|Silver ratio}} is actually 1+√2. By mistaking the A Series for something connected with the Golden Ratio, ''and'' perpetuating the tradition of making dubious claims about the Golden Ratio, Randall has successfully annoyed both graphic designers and mathematicians.
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However, Randall hasn't used the Golden Ratio at all; he's just drawn a spiral (''not'' the Golden Spiral) through a common diagram showing the {{w|Paper_size#A_series|A Series}} of standard paper sizes, but in landscape instead of portrait (this diagram is commonly drawn in portrait). These papers aren't squares at all, but rectangles whose side lengths shrink by a factor of the square root of 2. Additionally, the paper sizes shrink by a factor of one half, so the area is filled in a geometric series.  This is sometimes called a ''silver'' rectangle, although the {{w|Silver ratio}} is actually 1+√2. By mistaking the A Series for something connected with the Golden Ratio, ''and'' perpetuating the tradition of making dubious claims about the Golden Ratio, Randall has successfully annoyed both graphic designers and mathematicians.
  
The title text is a similarly themed joke, based partly on the fact that the US uses {{w|customary units}} while the vast majority of the rest of the world uses {{w|SI units}}.  The 11/8.5 ratio is the length/width ratio of {{w|Letter (paper size)|US Letter}} paper, which is 11 inches by 8.5 inches (another common size in the United States is US Legal, which is 14" by 8.5").  The value of π/4 radians is indeed equal to 45 degrees, although Randall takes the cosine in one case and uses the raw angle in the other case in order to get a close coincidence of values.  The width and length of A Series paper ({{w|ISO 216}}) is always given in whole millimeters, and the width/length ratio is very close to cos(45°) (which is 1/√2=0.707…)  As for US Letter paper: to 4 decimal places, 8.5/11 = 0.7727 and π/4 = 0.7854.
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The title text is a similarly themed joke, based partly on the fact that the US uses {{w|customary units}} while the vast majority of the rest of the world uses {{w|SI units}}.  The 11/8.5 ratio is the length/width ratio of {{w|Letter (paper size)|US Letter}} paper, which is 11 inches by 8.5 inches (another common size in the United States is US Legal, which is 14" by 8.5").  The value of π/4 radians is indeed equal to 45 degrees, although Randall takes the cosine in one case and uses the raw angle in the other case in order to get a close coincidence of values.  The width and length of A Series paper ({{w|ISO 216}}) is always given in whole millimeters, and the width/length ratio is very close to cos(45°) (which is 1/√2=0.707…)  As for US Letter paper, 11/8.5 is not in fact close to π/4, but it’s possible that Randall meant to write 8.5/11 instead of 11/8.5 (the comic now shows 8.5/11 on xkcd.com -- looks like he corrected the error).  To 4 decimal places, 8.5/11 = 0.7727 and π/4 = 0.7854.
  
 
In reality, the usage of radians vs. degrees is not a geographic or political decision, but generally is delineated by profession.  Most engineering and science fields measure angles in degrees or fractions of degrees (arcseconds, or even milliarcseconds in fields like astronomy), while mathematicians and physicists generally use radians.  Civil engineers may refer to the slope of a road by its {{w|Grade (slope)|grade}}, which is commonly expressed in terms of the tangent of the angle to the horizontal (either as a percentage or a ratio); for angles up to ~10°, this is close to the value of the angle in radians.
 
In reality, the usage of radians vs. degrees is not a geographic or political decision, but generally is delineated by profession.  Most engineering and science fields measure angles in degrees or fractions of degrees (arcseconds, or even milliarcseconds in fields like astronomy), while mathematicians and physicists generally use radians.  Civil engineers may refer to the slope of a road by its {{w|Grade (slope)|grade}}, which is commonly expressed in terms of the tangent of the angle to the horizontal (either as a percentage or a ratio); for angles up to ~10°, this is close to the value of the angle in radians.
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:How to annoy both graphic designers and mathematicians
 
:How to annoy both graphic designers and mathematicians
 
==Trivia==
 
*The title text originally said 11/8.5 instead of 8.5/11. This has since been corrected.
 
  
 
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