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==Explanation==
 
==Explanation==
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This comic references a common refrain that [https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/8/23/20828597/the-10000-hour-rule-debunked one must do something for 10,000 hours] to become an expert on it.  
This comic references the somewhat common idea that one must do something for 10,000 hours to become an expert on it. in this comic, [[Cueball]]'s phone tells him that, assuming that idea is correct, he is now a master of several things, because the amount of time he spends on his phone.
 
  
The title text refers to the fact that people eat a lot{{Citation needed}}, up to around 2 hours a day. Because there are 365 days in a year, and at the time of this comic's publication, [[Randall]] is 36 years old, he has spent a large amount of time eating, well over 10,000 hours.
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The linked article states:
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<blockquote>Practice matters, yes. But at the same time, it’s unlikely to bridge the gap between natural superstars and your average player.</blockquote> This is a classic expression of a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindset#Fixed_and_Growth_Mindset fixed mindset]; they leave out the role of effort put in, access to educational, community, health and training resources, and many other things, that people can leverage to become experts at new tasks.
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Popular smartphone operating systems automatically record the amount of time the user spends using their phone, broken down by time spent in each app. This feature is supposed to allow users to analyze their own habits. On iOS, this feature is called [https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208982 Screen Time]. On Android, it is called [https://www.android.com/digital-wellbeing/ Digital Wellbeing].
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In this comic, [[Cueball]]'s phone tells him that, assuming that the 10,000-hour idea is correct, he is now a master of a task, because of the amount of time he has spent on his phone. The 10,000-hour refrain usually pertains to the arts or sports, because they require a certain level of skill; learning to spend time on one's phone does not require this level of training{{Citation needed}}, so this stretch of time does not bring Cueball closer to achieving any goal. Furthermore, it is not clear exactly what task (or possibly tasks) Cueball is supposed to have mastered.
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Randall often pokes fun at his extensive screen time, such as in [[2223: Screen Time]]. Cueball's phone wants to delicately approach the topic so as not to make Cueball feel bad, so the euphemism about expertise is meant to distract him from realizing how much time he actually spends on his phone. Also, the phone tells Cueball that he was become a "world-class expert", when really he is just someone who checks his phone way too much. It is interesting that his phone decides to be kind to him, even when he has neglected it before ([[1668: Singularity]]).
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The title text refers to the fact that people eat a lot, [https://www.statista.com/chart/13226/where-people-spend-the-most-time-eating-drinking/ 1-2 hours a day], though not all of this time is spent chewing. At the time of this comic's publication, [[Randall]] was just over 36 years old (13,151 days), so he has spent a large amount of time eating, well over 10,000 hours.
  
 
==Transcript==
 
==Transcript==
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:[Cueball is staring at his phone. A report from the phone is shown above his head]
 
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:If you buy into the "10,000 hours" thing, you are now a world-class expert!
:[Cueball is staring at his phone. A report is shown above his head]
 
:If you buy into the "10,000 hours" thing, you are now a world-class expert
 
  
 
:[Caption below comic]
 
:[Caption below comic]
:My screen time reports have started trying to put a positive spin on things
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:My screen time reports have started trying to put a positive spin on things.
 
 
==Trivia==
 
This comic was published 2 days after Randall's birthday, October 17<sup>th</sup>
 
  
 
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Revision as of 23:20, 23 October 2020

10,000 Hours
I'm proud to announce that as of this year I've become a world-class expert at chewing.
Title text: I'm proud to announce that as of this year I've become a world-class expert at chewing.

Explanation

This comic references a common refrain that one must do something for 10,000 hours to become an expert on it.

The linked article states:

Practice matters, yes. But at the same time, it’s unlikely to bridge the gap between natural superstars and your average player.
This is a classic expression of a fixed mindset; they leave out the role of effort put in, access to educational, community, health and training resources, and many other things, that people can leverage to become experts at new tasks.

Popular smartphone operating systems automatically record the amount of time the user spends using their phone, broken down by time spent in each app. This feature is supposed to allow users to analyze their own habits. On iOS, this feature is called Screen Time. On Android, it is called Digital Wellbeing.

In this comic, Cueball's phone tells him that, assuming that the 10,000-hour idea is correct, he is now a master of a task, because of the amount of time he has spent on his phone. The 10,000-hour refrain usually pertains to the arts or sports, because they require a certain level of skill; learning to spend time on one's phone does not require this level of training[citation needed], so this stretch of time does not bring Cueball closer to achieving any goal. Furthermore, it is not clear exactly what task (or possibly tasks) Cueball is supposed to have mastered.

Randall often pokes fun at his extensive screen time, such as in 2223: Screen Time. Cueball's phone wants to delicately approach the topic so as not to make Cueball feel bad, so the euphemism about expertise is meant to distract him from realizing how much time he actually spends on his phone. Also, the phone tells Cueball that he was become a "world-class expert", when really he is just someone who checks his phone way too much. It is interesting that his phone decides to be kind to him, even when he has neglected it before (1668: Singularity).

The title text refers to the fact that people eat a lot, 1-2 hours a day, though not all of this time is spent chewing. At the time of this comic's publication, Randall was just over 36 years old (13,151 days), so he has spent a large amount of time eating, well over 10,000 hours.

Transcript

[Cueball is staring at his phone. A report from the phone is shown above his head]
If you buy into the "10,000 hours" thing, you are now a world-class expert!
[Caption below comic]
My screen time reports have started trying to put a positive spin on things.


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Discussion

Sorry for the kinda bad explanation, this is my first time editing on this wiki 162.158.119.71 00:45, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Its fine! Donthaveusername (talk) 00:53, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Usually when I wake up and open this site, I am greeted with atleast 5 paragraphs of writing, but this time I got to see only 2. So that gave me an idea. Let's make this the smallest explanation in the entire site! To make that record, let's condense the sentences to make it even shorter!The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 03:09, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm all for short explanations to the point. Most of the most recent (ie the 1000 or so) are far too long. I even once saw some "incomplete" explanation where the reason for it being inclomplete was "it's too short". What gives... Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 08:04, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
That being said, I agree. The current explanation seems to be pretty much complete. Maybe some citation for the "2 hours eating" thing is missing but that's it. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 08:09, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Done. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 08:13, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Kinda spoilt it. Wanted to change "several things" to "some task" (without haing read this Talk aim) but ended up going for "some possibly trivial task" which is longer yet again. With my edit-explanation of "No indication that this is for anything more than one thing (Candy Crush? Twitter? Reading election updates that won't affect your actions in any way..?) or the true importance of his mastery." which might not count but definitely aint laconic. 162.158.154.215 10:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Good luck making this explanation the shortest. I assume you haven't seen, for example, 3: Island (sketch)'s explanation? I'm all for short explanations too, but not at the expense of leaving the humor unanalysed. BlackHat (talk) 22:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm also all for short explanations that are concise and clear and agree some can get rather lengthy, but I don't agree with the goal to see how short we can make this explanation. I guess if it was somehow meta-related to the comic itself, it might be justifiable, but just making it really short solely for that purpose is going to jeopardize the "clear" part of the goal. Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 16:12, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems to me that a bit more commentary is needed, because it seems like there are two aspects to the myth: (1) it takes 10,000 hours to become and expert; (2) anybody can become an expert by spending those 10,000 hours. The comic seems to be commenting more on the latter aspect. Gbisaga (talk) 17:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

If Randall is 36 years old, he estimates he's averaged about 45 minutes/day chewing. This is significantly less than the 2 hours mentioned in the explanation, even if you account for the fact that you aren't chewing the entire time you're eating (it's probably still more than half the time). Barmar (talk) 17:09, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

At the age of 1 year and 51 2/3 days every human (who was not put on a ventilator) would be a world class expert in breathing! And at about somewhere between 7 and 8 months old, every human would be a world class expert in heart beating. Rtanenbaum (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

I know the incomplete tag was taken off, but the explanation still leaves a bit of the joke undiscussed. Feel free to delete any of my edits if you think it's fine as it is. BlackHat 17:24, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Barmar, the article says 1-2 hours. So it could be in the 75 minute area if he only spends about 60% of the eating time chewing.

Is there a sense here that Cueball has spent 10,000 hours looking at the ScreenTime app itself? That's how I first read it. SteveBaker (talk) 15:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Let's see, what have I done for 10,000 hours? Hmmm. Yeah, let's not go there. These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For (talk) 17:08, 27 October 2020 (UTC)