Title text: People ask me whether I feel any moral qualms about the source of the points, but if he hadn't introduced factory farming to Agricola, someone else would have.
This comic is in reference to strategy board games, which often have players collect some type of point system used as "currency". The joke in this comic is that cueball's grandfather (a tycoon in the board game Agricola according to the title text) handed down a massive sum of points. This is like in real life where people grow wealthy by inheriting vast sums of money from ancestors, and such inheritances tend to have a compounding effect on inequality over time, leading to 'successes' in life who have done little, if anything to earn it. See also the 'Small Loan of a Million Dollars' trope of a profile in which the author or subject discusses the simple tricks they used to retire early, or buy a house, which often involves a hurried admission of financial assistance from a family.
The title text asks Cueball if he has any moral qualms over these points. The reader is initially led to believe that this refers to him using his privilege, however this is immediately subverted to indicate his grandfather's fortune was made through factory farming. Factory farming is frequently brought up as immoral.
Does anyone feel this is kind of a reference to feudalism?126.96.36.199 19:16, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Seems more like commentary on modern-day capitalism, particularly in the US with increasing inequality and more and more inherited wealth. Randall seems more comfortable with social commentary in recent years.DKMell (talk) 18:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- In 2019 and 2020, the Edelman Trust Barometer cited CEOs as the most trusted persons globally. Your company is your castle, with its leader your Lord. That trust collapsed per the 2021 Barometer, so just maybe resistance is not feudal.188.8.131.52 18:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Might be related to the rise of legacy board games, in which outcomes of prior matches influence future games. Usually, those have a limited number of plays and they are designed such that prior winner's don't have too much of an advantage in future games. But one could imagine a game that, (if it has no limit to the number of plays), after being played for generations gives a significant advantage to whomever inherited a specific character/player role. 184.108.40.206 14:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC) Tobl
Obligatory reminder to everybody that (1) life is not a competition and (2) money is not "victory points". There are ways to cynically portray these things as such, but fully buying into this paradigm inevitably results in profound unhappiness. mezimm 220.127.116.11 14:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
This one was pretty early... maybe Randall’s getting back to schedule? --18.104.22.168 15:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Anyone notice anything special about 4000000 and 10019, also what is arigola
- Agricola is a board game LINK 22.214.171.124 15:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'm thinking 10019 means Cueball allocated 10000 points from his inheritance, then earned 19 through the course of the game. 126.96.36.199 16:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
huh. ive never seen a comic explanation finished so quickly in a bit! we sure about removing that tag?
- It has been put back in. So no ;-) --Kynde (talk) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
I feel like this is very much a criticism of modern day (colonial) capitalism. It's both concisely stating that the disparity is absurd, that small donations from billionaires are laughable and dont change the inherent unfairness, and implies that the best way of leveling the playing field is to wiping the slate.
- Totally agree. The whole idea of money surviving a wealthy persons death is a pyramid game. The more money that is inherited the more can someone who did nothing expect to buy from others, without they doing any thing to create physical values. Only question is when we run out of people to be at the base of the pyramid... Sadly they cannot like Cueball's playing partners decide not to play the game... --Kynde (talk) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Obligatory reminder to everybody that (1) life is not a competition and (2) money is not "victory points". There are ways to cynically portray these things as such, but fully buying into this paradigm inevitably results in profound unhappiness. mezimm 188.8.131.52 14:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Is there any chance that this is a reference to the “How We Win” speech which gained some attention last summer in regards to BLM protests? The speech uses a metaphorical game of Monopoly which is rigged for one side to explain how the US still isn’t economically fair, and I know Randall has put up the BLM banner in support. Agricola instead of Monopoly (and race not mentioned) but he might have drawn inspiration there. 184.108.40.206 11:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
The title text references the pro- colonial argument that engaging in exploitation is being smart, because it was bound to be done by somebody, so the perpetrators are smart for taking initiative. 220.127.116.11 01:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Can someone create a Category:Board games? Category:Chess should be subcategory of this category, and this comic, and 1566: Board Game, 492: Scrabble, 839: Explorers, 778: Scheduling, 738: Incision can be added to it. 18.104.22.168 18:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Created the category, however I'm not brave enough to put Chess into it. -- Hkmaly (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Talking about chess, I quote: "Board games do not normally include an inheritance from previous sessions"...uh, you are probably not old enough to have played an adjourned chess game ;-) 22.214.171.124 09:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Others where braver I can see. Bu great category. --Kynde (talk) 07:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also, talking about chess, the rating system (i.e. Grandmaster/Master/etc.) are based on a victory points like system that goes from game to game. It doesn't affect the games themselves, but essentially records how you've done in the games you've played. The totals can be quite large, but, cannot be transferred. There are others that have something like this. Should we mention it? -- MAP (talk) 22:07, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
The explanation seems a bit bare of what examples of inherited wealth this is parodying. In the UK there's a bruhaha (in some circles, and equally a bruhaha about the other bruhaha in other circles) about historic Slavery-profits that set up now historical country estates, etc,now maintained on behalf of the nation as a public good but possibly needing contextualising. In Germany (and relatedl there are huge multinational companies that undoubtedly benefitted from Nazi work-camps or assett-confis ations that might owe a moral debt in more recent climate even though generations have passed since such things. Pretty much every culture will have such examples (and if it's not transatlantic slavery, too for the US version, it could be the treatment of native tribes/lands, starting well before; or share-croppers/dustbowl/Great Depression/poor-immigrants issues more recently, if the Agricola reference is any clue), or is it just general inheritance (and maybe Fred Trump in particular?) 126.96.36.199 15:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Don't forget the China connection with the Muslim Wiegers forced to work in concentration camps manufacturing products sold in the U.S. Who's benefiting from this now?
Should just challenge that guy to a game of golf.