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Presenter: We all know the NIGHTMARE CODE, used to assign neutral names to scary ongoing lists, such as hurricanes, virus variants, and nanobot swarms. But did you know it actually originated as the letters of an ancient Earth language?
 
Presenter: We all know the NIGHTMARE CODE, used to assign neutral names to scary ongoing lists, such as hurricanes, virus variants, and nanobot swarms. But did you know it actually originated as the letters of an ancient Earth language?
 
[Title text: Charsets even used to be known as 'alpha-bets' before that word's obvious negative associations caused it to die out.]
 
  
 
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Revision as of 16:13, 5 July 2021

Nightmare Code
Charsets even used to be known as 'alpha-bets' before that word's obvious negative associations caused it to die out.
Title text: Charsets even used to be known as 'alpha-bets' before that word's obvious negative associations caused it to die out.

Explanation

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In the future, humans have forgotten the Greek language entirely, and its writing system survives only as a means of assigning names to nightmarish phenomena.

A person using futuristic technology is giving a presentation. The content of his projected screen includes the first four letters of the Greek Alphabet, which he refers to as the Nightmare Code. The presenter expects that the list is familiar to his audience, but that it is novel information to them that it used to have a purpose other than providing arbitrary names to hurricanes, virus variants, and nanobot swarms.

Hurricanes and other tropical cyclones are usually named once they grow nightmarish enough. The names for these storms come from pre-defined lists that have 21 names allocated each year [1]. When the 21 names are exhausted, Greek letters have been used to continue naming storms as needed. Perhaps in this vision of the future, the naming lists have given way to using the Greek alphabet exclusively, despite the World Meteorological Organization deciding in 2021 no longer to use Greek letters when naming storms.

Virus variants may also be given names [2] once they are deemed sufficiently nightmarish. At the time of this writing, eleven variants of SARS-CoV-2 have been labeled with Greek letters. Previously, variants were named informally for the region in which they were discovered (as were many viruses themselves), but this practice has ceased due to risks of discrimination and the perverse incentive to suppress health information for the sake of saving face.

Nanobot swarms identify themselves by Greek letters due to an inadvertent ROM character set bug in the firmware of the original manifestation[citation needed].

The title text indicates that character sets used to be called alphabets, after the first two elements of the Nightmare Code, but people stopped using the term alphabet due to negative associations with the items named by the Nightmare Code.

Transcript

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[A person giving a presentation is wearing futuristic gear, including a visor with an antenna rising from it, a backpack-like appliance of some kind, and a futuristic pointer. The audience is not pictured. The presenter is floating rather than standing. The presentation is projected from a small device near the bottom of the frame, and the appearance of the presentation suggests it is a hologram. The content of the slide shows the names of the first four letters of the Greek alphabet, ALPHA, BETA, GAMMA, and DELTA.]

Presenter: We all know the NIGHTMARE CODE, used to assign neutral names to scary ongoing lists, such as hurricanes, virus variants, and nanobot swarms. But did you know it actually originated as the letters of an ancient Earth language?


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Discussion

As I feared, I got into an Edit Conflict after doing (significantly more than I intended) editing of my own 'starter' explanation. Now resolved - thank you for your patience... 141.101.98.124 20:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Central pacific hurricanes (e.g. Iniki) have different naming conventions than Eastern Pacific/Atlantic hurricanes (13 names in a list that doesn't reset at the new year).Gacktuar (talk) 23:19, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Is the Alphabet gag in the Title Text related to Alphabet, the company that owns Google? Kev (talk) 17:32, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

It would be more expected that Alphabet would change their name if Alpha and Beta become associated with nightmare codes. OTOH, many thought that the Corona beer brand would suffer marketing problems during the pandemic, but it wasn't impacted very much. Barmar (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

@Kev Well, the speaker is wearing Google Glass. Lightcaller (talk) 20:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

The speaker specifically mentions "Earth Language" and wears something that might well be some kind of life support. I don't think they are addressing earth-based humans, but rather some more diverse audience that is mostly not from earth. Many of them obviously don't know old earth languages too well. But the usage of the nightmare code seems to have spread beyond earth. Therefore, there's no implication that (earth-based) humans have forgotten the Greek language, the speaker may simply be giving a talk about their culture. -> I think the first paragraph is making wrong assumptions. @Abd are you sure? Chichak (talk) 22:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Not at all. Feel free to improve it; that's what wikis are for! Abd (talk) 16:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Wait, what? The future's character sets? Our character sets (or at least some of them) are known as alphabets! Or have we already forgotten the term "alphabet"? ^unsigned

How far off is "the (far) future"? Based on the retro-future styled headwear & relatively minor language drift, I was picturing 20-to-60 years, tops.

Heck, which objects count as "drones" has already changed twice the last 20 years, & YouTube still thinks Steam® is related to an ironing press. If we're looking more than 60 years out, I have to assume that "nightmare" could be common parlance for 'great', "scary" means 'informative', "negative" means 'removing', & "die" means equalize.

It's a joke about language drift, featuring a floaty person referring to ancient "Earth" languages: Sounds like someone teaching a 1st-grade class at Luna L2 circa 2051, ten years after 'the Oopsie'. I really didn't get a feeling of "oh wow lots of time has passed". I got the impression we were supposed to recognize the elements of the scene so that the grammatic drift stated in the comic would be highlighted as hyperbolic change.

Hovering & silly headgear are kinda the bare minimum to represent "the future" unambiguously, these days. The presumption of extraterrestrial habitation is the most futuristic reference I see. I'd be a bit surprised if that took us more than another decade or two, if ever.

Is this comic really about the far future, or is part of the joke that language changes faster than our perceptions of what is futuristic? ProphetZarquon (talk) 01:12, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

@ unsigned comment above: This comic is set in an imagined future in which the use of the word "alphabet" to describe a character set has fallen out of favour due to the negative connotations of the Greek root. 108.162.249.130 01:17, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, the imagining of "the (far) future", as argued against by someone I can't be bothered to check if they're one of several <unsigned>s or not, actually seems (fictionally) realistic to me. At least one full generation of Alphabet-gnostics has died out, by time passing as well as disaster, with very little seepage of "grandpa always used to say..." into this generation. If it's so soon after a terrestrial catastrophe, I'm surprised 'the old ways' have vanished as quickly as the Jetsons future has arrived. More likely like the montage behind Fry in Futurama's setup episode, happening to lead to a totally unironic retro-futuristic setting with much discontinuity of knowledge from the past. Even without the full-on Earthwide disaster, there could be the general Spacer-like ignorance (Asimov's pre-Foundation run-up series, long before Earth itself became mythical/lost/damaged in various phases) of our everyday cultural certainties - that even the surface-shunning mass of Earthers were showing signs of succumbing to ('Lije Bailey not knowing more than that text from the US Declaration Of Independence, IIRC, was "some old document", and used it casually without understanding how fanatically important its original context was).
And @108.162.249.130 below, yes, I also think that the great transhumance into space has removed or reworked away Greek as a living language, as well as Ancient Greek as a non-niche dead one. We're probably even hearing/reading this lecture through (historically-unaware) Translator Microbes if it's being conducted in Standard Galactic (except for the historic loanwords), or whatever hybrid spacefaring lingua franca has developed and put yet more linguistic space between the words we know well and the mere detritus of phonemes that reflect very little of their origin. (Again, reason to believe a gap of no less than a century, possibly several, to shift the popular mindsets.)
But that's just my impression. You could shoehorn a faster turnaround, with enough tweaks. e.g. Bezos retires to his moonbase to tinker up a load of new Amazon gadgetry (Musk does the same on Mars for a Tesla-esque offshoot), the world goes all retro-techno via consumer pressure, plus capable of initiating the Google Labs nanobot swarming that leaves the gadget-ridden off-worlders now disconnected and disinclined to further the blackened legacy of Alphabet Inc, and after a generation or two of off-world schooling (from what few educators and experts had found themselves able to expound their knowledge) there are... gaps and other somewhat more blurred bits in the near(ish)-future shared memory. Your choice! 162.158.158.105 11:14, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Does Cueball's "did you know" imply that the Greek language has died out entirely? At time of writing, the origin of the alpha/beta/gamma/etc. pseudo-numbering would already be referred to as "Ancient" Greek, but the same alphabet is still very much used to write modern Greek. 108.162.249.130 01:17, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

I feel like the explanation is overthinking the comic somewhat - it's a reference to the practice of using Greek letters for hurricanes once the 21 alphabetical names are exhausted (which is happening more often due to anthropogenic climate change) and the "delta variant" of SARS-CoV-2, extended to refer to futuristic disasters like nanobots. The word "alphabet" gaining perceived negative connotations is a result of that - there shouldn't be any cause to bring up ethology or Google's holding company. 162.158.203.39 01:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)