https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:1286: Encryptic - Revision history2024-03-28T14:58:48ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=323592&oldid=prevAn user who has no account yet: Undo revision 323591 by An user who has no account yet (talk)2023-09-10T00:33:19Z<p>Undo revision 323591 by <a href="/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/An_user_who_has_no_account_yet" title="Special:Contributions/An user who has no account yet">An user who has no account yet</a> (<a href="/wiki/index.php/User_talk:An_user_who_has_no_account_yet" title="User talk:An user who has no account yet">talk</a>)</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>alpha for me implied alphabet which meant either password being "alphabet" or "abc", which both were plausible since abc is less than 8 and alphabet is 8 letters long. this combined with obvious corresponding to same sequence and abc being more used than alphabet to refer to... well, the alphabet made me think it would be abc. also the duh one needed no thinking because it was obviously going to be password and the mash one i thought it would be keyboard smash because i usually smash my keyboard by accident lol [[User:An user who has no account yet|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet|talk]]) 22:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>alpha for me implied alphabet which meant either password being "alphabet" or "abc", which both were plausible since abc is less than 8 and alphabet is 8 letters long. this combined with obvious corresponding to same sequence and abc being more used than alphabet to refer to... well, the alphabet made me think it would be abc. also the duh one needed no thinking because it was obviously going to be password and the mash one i thought it would be keyboard smash because i usually smash my keyboard by accident lol [[User:An user who has no account yet|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet|talk]]) 22:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>An user who has no account yethttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=323591&oldid=prevAn user who has no account yet at 00:31, 10 September 20232023-09-10T00:31:18Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>alpha for me implied alphabet which meant either password being "alphabet" or "abc", which both were plausible since abc is less than 8 and alphabet is 8 letters long. this combined with obvious corresponding to same sequence and abc being more used than alphabet to refer to... well, the alphabet made me think it would be abc. also the duh one needed no thinking because it was obviously going to be password and the mash one i thought it would be keyboard smash because i usually smash my keyboard by accident lol [[User:An user who has no account yet|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet|talk]]) 22:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>alpha for me implied alphabet which meant either password being "alphabet" or "abc", which both were plausible since abc is less than 8 and alphabet is 8 letters long. this combined with obvious corresponding to same sequence and abc being more used than alphabet to refer to... well, the alphabet made me think it would be abc. also the duh one needed no thinking because it was obviously going to be password and the mash one i thought it would be keyboard smash because i usually smash my keyboard by accident lol [[User:An user who has no account yet|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet|talk]]) 22:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>An user who has no account yethttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=323483&oldid=prevAn user who has no account yet at 22:04, 7 September 20232023-09-07T22:04:03Z<p></p>
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</table>An user who has no account yethttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=323482&oldid=prevAn user who has no account yet at 21:58, 7 September 20232023-09-07T21:58:30Z<p></p>
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</table>An user who has no account yethttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=323481&oldid=prevAn user who has no account yet at 21:54, 7 September 20232023-09-07T21:54:18Z<p></p>
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</table>An user who has no account yethttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=53082&oldid=prev141.101.98.236 at 11:41, 19 November 20132013-11-19T11:41:59Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Farfetched? -Sure. Too great a stretch? -Perhaps. Ingenious and beautiful? - Absolutely. [[User:Eve|Eve]] ([[User talk:Eve|talk]]) 01:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Farfetched? -Sure. Too great a stretch? -Perhaps. Ingenious and beautiful? - Absolutely. [[User:Eve|Eve]] ([[User talk:Eve|talk]]) 01:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Lackadaisicalhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=52736&oldid=prevEve at 01:41, 14 November 20132013-11-14T01:41:45Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So then I looked up Tentacool’s number, and looked at all the other numbers in the puzzle, to see if they would somehow produce 072. My heart sank when I realized that 1 + 57 + 15 + 10 = 83, and that even subtracting the purloined l/1 didn’t get me there, but then I realized that if the x were a roman numeral 10, and it too was subtracted, then the result was 72 and, again, internal validation of an answer.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So then I looked up Tentacool’s number, and looked at all the other numbers in the puzzle, to see if they would somehow produce 072. My heart sank when I realized that 1 + 57 + 15 + 10 = 83, and that even subtracting the purloined l/1 didn’t get me there, but then I realized that if the x were a roman numeral 10, and it too was subtracted, then the result was 72 and, again, internal validation of an answer.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Evehttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1286:_Encryptic&diff=52735&oldid=prevEve: explanation2013-11-14T01:40:53Z<p>explanation</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sorry. I’ll slow down and back up, and I apologize in advance if this is too much or too verbose.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The subject of the puzzle seemed to indicate its theme, so I started googling ‘hacker ___,” inserting random words from the hints, and then from the passwords themselves as they were deciphered. The results were kinda amazing and very educational. As I said earlier, everything in the puzzle is related to hackers/hacking, even things you’d think couldn’t possibly be. Hacker Sheen, for example, led me to a Sheen News Network story on “Hackers being treated like terrorists,” which discussed the Auerheimer and Hammond cases. So, general thematic relevance established, though ‘57' still bothered me...</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Which brought me back to ‘57,’ and the last group of hints/passwords that seemed to have no connection to any other hints/passwords and no validation within the puzzle...and it finally dawned me that the reason this bugged me so much was that asdfghjkl was the 56th rather than 57th entry in the list of common passwords, and my first thought was Why couldn’t it have been 56, and my second thought was But if you take away 1 then it is, and the Eureka moment came when I realized that ‘take away’ is a synonym of ‘purloined’ and  l and 1 are often interchanged either accidentally or purposefully and 57 - 1 = 56. </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">So then I looked up Tentacool’s number, and looked at all the other numbers in the puzzle, to see if they would somehow produce 072. My heart sank when I realized that 1 + 57 + 15 + 10 = 83, and that even subtracting the purloined l/1 didn’t get me there, but then I realized that if the x were a roman numeral 10, and it too was subtracted, then the result was 72 and, again, internal validation of an answer.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Fav water-3 Pokemon has to be tentacool. It fits the format tentacoo l using the purloined l from asdfghjk l. Tentacool is (was ?) a well-known Pokemon hacker, and tentacool references LaughingSquid and its 'Chief Tentacle" Scott Beale. Finally, tentacool's number is 72, and if you add the numerals in the top half of the passwords (1, 57, 15, 10) and then subtract the numbers-represented by letters in the bottom half of the passwords (x = roman 10 and l = 1) you get 72.  Everything is related. [[User:Eve|Eve]] ([[User talk:Eve|talk]]) 21:23, 13 November 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Fav water-3 Pokemon has to be tentacool. It fits the format tentacoo l using the purloined l from asdfghjk l. Tentacool is (was ?) a well-known Pokemon hacker, and tentacool references LaughingSquid and its 'Chief Tentacle" Scott Beale. Finally, tentacool's number is 72, and if you add the numerals in the top half of the passwords (1, 57, 15, 10) and then subtract the numbers-represented by letters in the bottom half of the passwords (x = roman 10 and l = 1) you get 72.  Everything is related. [[User:Eve|Eve]] ([[User talk:Eve|talk]]) 21:23, 13 November 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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