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The blob of 13 under the word Livestock may very well represent both dogs and cats. {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.46}} | The blob of 13 under the word Livestock may very well represent both dogs and cats. {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.46}} | ||
| − | + | ===Layout of the blocks=== | |
Does anybody see a reason for the particular layout of the blocks? My first impression was a globe but obviously it doesn't correspond to any continents, etc. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.66|108.162.254.66]] 08:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | Does anybody see a reason for the particular layout of the blocks? My first impression was a globe but obviously it doesn't correspond to any continents, etc. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.66|108.162.254.66]] 08:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
: I've been wondering myself... I do think it is a picture of something. My ideas so far: an eye, a fried egg, a cell. --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 09:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | : I've been wondering myself... I do think it is a picture of something. My ideas so far: an eye, a fried egg, a cell. --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 09:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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: I think we humans are afraid of the wild animals, and are huddling in the center and have either gathered the domesticated animals around us to protect us, or they have surrounded us on their own to protect us. [[User:Chrullrich|Chrullrich]] ([[User talk:Chrullrich|talk]]) 07:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC) | : I think we humans are afraid of the wild animals, and are huddling in the center and have either gathered the domesticated animals around us to protect us, or they have surrounded us on their own to protect us. [[User:Chrullrich|Chrullrich]] ([[User talk:Chrullrich|talk]]) 07:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| − | : Is it just me or is that a tip view of the human skull with eyes pointing left? Perhaps something about the placement indicates where we place the importance of these species in our minds? Wild guess and all that? | + | : Is it just me or is that a tip view of the human skull with eyes pointing left? Perhaps something about the placement indicates where we place the importance of these species in our minds? Wild guess and all that? |
Don't think there is anything to the layout, other than making it fit as a evenly distributed in a circle, placing the wild species near the domesticated relatives -- my vote is to remove the layout from the incomplete tag [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 21:48, 21 September 2014 (UTC) | Don't think there is anything to the layout, other than making it fit as a evenly distributed in a circle, placing the wild species near the domesticated relatives -- my vote is to remove the layout from the incomplete tag [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 21:48, 21 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | ===Identifying the groups=== | |
I would love to identify specific groups. The unlabelled animals come in groups, even the wild animals, even though only *one* of those groups (elephants for some reason) has been labelled. —[[User:TobyBartels|TobyBartels]] ([[User talk:TobyBartels|talk]]) 13:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | I would love to identify specific groups. The unlabelled animals come in groups, even the wild animals, even though only *one* of those groups (elephants for some reason) has been labelled. —[[User:TobyBartels|TobyBartels]] ([[User talk:TobyBartels|talk]]) 13:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:Reason for elephant label == "This is how much/little the whole population of the largest land mammals amass to."? (Actually, given the scarcity of elephants, I'm surprised it's a full block. I suspect something else that could have been labelledsuch as "rats" would be far more.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.7|141.101.99.7]] 14:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | :Reason for elephant label == "This is how much/little the whole population of the largest land mammals amass to."? (Actually, given the scarcity of elephants, I'm surprised it's a full block. I suspect something else that could have been labelledsuch as "rats" would be far more.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.7|141.101.99.7]] 14:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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::Considering that he's in the U.S. & he didn't specify "metric ton" or spell it "tonne" I'd assume the 2K lbs. American ton -- so maybe it's hard to say for sure! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But are the data even precise enough to draw this distinction at all, or is it drowned out by yearly fluctuations & sampling errors anyway? --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.133.168|172.68.133.168]] 03:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC) | ::Considering that he's in the U.S. & he didn't specify "metric ton" or spell it "tonne" I'd assume the 2K lbs. American ton -- so maybe it's hard to say for sure! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But are the data even precise enough to draw this distinction at all, or is it drowned out by yearly fluctuations & sampling errors anyway? --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.133.168|172.68.133.168]] 03:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | ===Stab at the numbers=== | |
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 95%; table-layout: fixed; line-height:1.25" | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="width: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 95%; table-layout: fixed; line-height:1.25" | ||
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[[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.8|108.162.241.8]] 16:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.8|108.162.241.8]] 16:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | ===Talk about the table=== | |
:uhh.... chickens aren't... mammals? (?) [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 17:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | :uhh.... chickens aren't... mammals? (?) [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 17:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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:Rodentia? If the average rodent weighs something like 0.67kg, then 15B rodents would make up 13 squares. 0.67kg comes from the log average of the smallest and largest. If this includes rats (4B per the WHO) - is it reasonable that the rest of Rodentia includes 11B, 1-2 rodents per person on the Earth? That would include: squirrels, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, and hamsters; although guinea pigs might be considered pet/livestock (mmm... cuye!). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.36|108.162.215.36]] 23:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)rbnm | :Rodentia? If the average rodent weighs something like 0.67kg, then 15B rodents would make up 13 squares. 0.67kg comes from the log average of the smallest and largest. If this includes rats (4B per the WHO) - is it reasonable that the rest of Rodentia includes 11B, 1-2 rodents per person on the Earth? That would include: squirrels, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, and hamsters; although guinea pigs might be considered pet/livestock (mmm... cuye!). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.36|108.162.215.36]] 23:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)rbnm | ||
| − | + | ===Title Text=== | |
The title text mentions that bacteria outweigh humans by thousands (plural) to one. The notation 1000:1 used in the explanation is therefore not correct. | The title text mentions that bacteria outweigh humans by thousands (plural) to one. The notation 1000:1 used in the explanation is therefore not correct. | ||
:True - I did not spot that. I have corrected it to the same version as the title text[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:15, 6 March 2014 (UTC) | :True - I did not spot that. I have corrected it to the same version as the title text[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:15, 6 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | ===Rabbit=== | |
This mammals belong to "Pets/Livestock" and "Wild animals". Any ideas where this does fit in here? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | This mammals belong to "Pets/Livestock" and "Wild animals". Any ideas where this does fit in here? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:There are several other animals where there could be both a wild and a domesticated (or pet) version. Foes Zoo animals count as pets? Elephant is a good example as they are domesticated in India. Is domesticated only animals where we have changed them - like cows and pigs? In that case the elephant is not domesticated - as it has not been breed into a different race... {{unsigned|Kynde}} | :There are several other animals where there could be both a wild and a domesticated (or pet) version. Foes Zoo animals count as pets? Elephant is a good example as they are domesticated in India. Is domesticated only animals where we have changed them - like cows and pigs? In that case the elephant is not domesticated - as it has not been breed into a different race... {{unsigned|Kynde}} | ||
| − | + | ===Deer=== | |
This belongs to "Wild animals". Any ideas where this does fit in here? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | This belongs to "Wild animals". Any ideas where this does fit in here? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | ===Smil table=== | |
he singles out elephants in the table, and uses Mt of Carbon as a unit. The % of carbon is ~18,5% in humans (I guess this is pretty average for mnammals too, so checking the numbers should take this in to account. | he singles out elephants in the table, and uses Mt of Carbon as a unit. The % of carbon is ~18,5% in humans (I guess this is pretty average for mnammals too, so checking the numbers should take this in to account. | ||
