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My uncle had a nonsense rhyme based on this:
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My uncle had a nonsense rhyme based on this:<br />
Thirty days hath September,
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Thirty days hath September,<br />
April, June, and no wonder
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April, June, and no wonder<br />
All the rest ate peanut butter,
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All the rest ate peanut butter,<br />
Except Grandma, who rode a tricycle
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Except Grandma, who rode a tricycle<br />
about this color. (holds hand 3 feet above ground)
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about this color. (holds hand 3 feet above ground)<br />
 
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THIS RHYME IS TERRIBLE. You can slot the months into it in nearly any order and it will still scan. The knuckle trick is far superior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_days_hath_September#Knuckle_Mnemonic CLAVDIVS (talk) 06:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I use the knuckle trick too. And I am Dutch, so not only the "German, French, Swiss, Romanians and Belgians" use that trick. I count from the index finger and reverse on the little finger for July and August. Might not be representative for all Dutch, I've heard the rhyme too. (suitably translated) -- 141.101.104.196 09:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
From Jan to Jul(1~7) its odd numbers 31 days, while from Aug to Dec(8~12) its even numbers 31. Feb is 28 or 29. Much shorter. - MythSearcher 162.158.176.35 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
Or (in other words) subtract 7 if number of month is above 7. Then odd always means 31 and even 30 or February. Sebastian --162.158.91.159 07:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
As above, except that I use Hallowe'en and New Year as checks! 141.101.104.61 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
I come from the UK. I have never heard the rhyme and everyone I know uses the knuckle trick. Though London is not exactly representative of the whole country... 162.158.90.165 09:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I've been taught the knuckle mnemonic as a child; it went index finger to little finger, then to other hand starting from index finger again. Incidentally, I'm Russian (as opposed to German, French, Swiss, Romanian, Belgian, or Dutch). --141.101.81.77 10:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Datum point: British, was taught the rhyme ('alone'-rhyming version) when young but then learnt the (apparently widespread) 'knuckle-trick' from I-don't-know-where. Little-finger knuckle is January, index-finger knuckle is July, then right-hand in reverse, for me, until out of months... So I tend to use the latter more, now. 162.158.39.224 17:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I always heard "30 days hath september, april june and november, all the rest have 31, except february alone. And that has 28 days clear, with 29 in each leap year." How do people remember it if it doesn't rhyme?- madness! 162.158.38.218 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

No no no, its "30 days hath November, August, March and December..." --Pudder (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

In Spain both rhyme and knuckle are well-known, and usually taught to children (the rhyme suitably translated, of course). For some reason, I've always found it easier to just remember the number of days by memory than resorting to any mnemonic trick. I tend to use the known numbers to check if I remember the mnemonic correctly, and not vice versa. Also, it's usual to see people wondering which number corresponds to which month (e.g. October is month 10), which I also remember no problem since I have memory. Jojonete (talk) 12:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Of course if we hadn't moved the start of the year from March to January, September, October, November and December would make much more sense as months 7, 8, 9 and 10! 162.158.34.204 15:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm from Denmark and here I have heard of the knuckle method, but we do not have a rhyme that is so well know that I have heard of it (but I'm sure someone has.) But as the Jojonete wrote I also just know which month have how many days by memory etc. But I have told my six year old daughter about the knuckle method. I think it is great that it works. And everyone knows that February is the one with 28 days, so that is not the difficult part to remember... --Kynde (talk) 13:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I tried the mouseover text trick and got "7" for October. Someone help! 162.158.255.119 17:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

October of all months seems like a pretty easy one to keep track of, simply because October 31st is a pretty popular holiday. 108.162.220.11 18:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

brain adaptation ridicule…celebration

141.101.66.5 09:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC) me thinks that while the absurdity of these life hacks has been explained well the deeper issue might yet be missed here: the cultural shift from relying on mental recall and concentration to adapting your brain to rely on technology more than before, reduced attention span and reduced factual memory (better childhood telephone number recall than children's mobile numbers recall) and optimized lookup routines 141.101.66.5 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

digital amnesia! --141.101.66.5 10:02, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-34454264 --141.101.66.5 10:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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My uncle had a nonsense rhyme based on this:
Thirty days hath September,
April, June, and no wonder
All the rest ate peanut butter,
Except Grandma, who rode a tricycle
about this color. (holds hand 3 feet above ground)
108.162.216.26 13:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)