https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1706:_Genetic_Testing&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:1706: Genetic Testing - Revision history2024-03-28T12:35:36ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1706:_Genetic_Testing&diff=185376&oldid=prevLupo at 15:20, 2 January 20202020-01-02T15:20:06Z<p></p>
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</table>Lupohttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1706:_Genetic_Testing&diff=124237&oldid=prevLackadaisical at 13:17, 27 July 20162016-07-27T13:17:01Z<p></p>
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</table>Lackadaisicalhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1706:_Genetic_Testing&diff=124211&oldid=prev108.162.212.5 at 03:30, 27 July 20162016-07-27T03:30:22Z<p></p>
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</table>Kalihttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1706:_Genetic_Testing&diff=123336&oldid=prev141.101.97.82 at 07:17, 15 July 20162016-07-15T07:17:20Z<p></p>
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</table>141.101.97.82https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1706:_Genetic_Testing&diff=123329&oldid=prev141.101.98.130 at 20:34, 14 July 20162016-07-14T20:34:04Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Found on the wikipedia page for DNA barcoding that "mtDNA barcode to assign a species name to an animal will be ambiguous or erroneous some 23% of the time". Also note that this applies to classifying a higher-order species, not like in the comic which sub-species it belongs to. According the the wikipedia page doing so would be largely bogus. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.218|162.158.222.218]] 15:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Found on the wikipedia page for DNA barcoding that "mtDNA barcode to assign a species name to an animal will be ambiguous or erroneous some 23% of the time". Also note that this applies to classifying a higher-order species, not like in the comic which sub-species it belongs to. According the the wikipedia page doing so would be largely bogus. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.218|162.158.222.218]] 15:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::This also answers the question in the first panel about how legit these tests are. Spoiler alert: They are not. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.222.218|162.158.222.218]] 15:57, 14 July 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Another comic where Randall is attacking groups. This time it's furries. Wonderful.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Another comic where Randall is attacking groups. This time it's furries. Wonderful.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Consider yourself lucky.  My blood work has declared me pregnant three times this year as a male.  It's gotten to the point that it's one of the ways that my doctors check to see if the results are valid or not.  --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.213|108.162.237.213]] 15:21, 14 July 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Consider yourself lucky.  My blood work has declared me pregnant three times this year as a male.  It's gotten to the point that it's one of the ways that my doctors check to see if the results are valid or not.  --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.213|108.162.237.213]] 15:21, 14 July 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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