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I feel like the comic is more about the addressee of the mail seeing how much time the sender spent on the mail. In the comic, I feel like the sender is asking about having another date with someone and try to be casual about it, which would be contradicted by the time he actually spent on it.
 
I feel like the comic is more about the addressee of the mail seeing how much time the sender spent on the mail. In the comic, I feel like the sender is asking about having another date with someone and try to be casual about it, which would be contradicted by the time he actually spent on it.
  
In the same way, the title indicates that the mail spent 3 days in the drafts while the sender writes "I just saw your message". It would be very awkward if the recipient of the mail could see that it is a lie.
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:In the same way, the title indicates that the mail spent 3 days in the drafts while the sender writes "I just saw your message". It would be very awkward if the recipient of the mail could see that it is a lie.
 
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.224|162.158.88.224]] 14:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.224|162.158.88.224]] 14:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
  
Indeed, you are correct. I misinterpreted the comic. [[User:Fvalves|Fvalves]] ([[User talk:Fvalves|talk]]) 15:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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:Indeed, you are correct. I misinterpreted the comic. [[User:Fvalves|Fvalves]] ([[User talk:Fvalves|talk]]) 15:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
  
 
He's always commenting on how you're responsible for how you're interpreted and now he's having difficulty managing his responsibility for how he's interpreted.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.50|162.158.69.50]] 16:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 
He's always commenting on how you're responsible for how you're interpreted and now he's having difficulty managing his responsibility for how he's interpreted.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.50|162.158.69.50]] 16:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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This is MY nightmare email feature. I spend 10 minutes per line.
 
This is MY nightmare email feature. I spend 10 minutes per line.
  
The paradox is that it takes a long time for Randall to craft a socially acceptable email, but it is socially unacceptable to spend a long time crafting emails. If the email's composition time becomes part of the email itself, then it is impossible for Randall to send a socially acceptable email. He is carefully choosing the right words, rhythm, and sentence structure in his emails, because he is expected to sound relaxed, natural, and off-the-cuff.
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The paradox is that it takes a long time for Randall to craft a socially acceptable email, but it is socially unacceptable to spend a long time crafting emails. If the email's composition time becomes part of the email itself, then it is impossible for Randall to send a socially acceptable email. He is carefully choosing the right words, rhythm, and sentence structure in his emails, because he is expected to sound relaxed, natural, and off-the-cuff. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.130|108.162.216.130]] 21:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 
 
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.130|108.162.216.130]] 21:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 
  
 
I see nothing within the comic to definitively indicate that the receiver is seeing the time spent composing the message; That is an assumption, whether correct or not. Personally, I think the whole comic works both ways: I would be mortified to have a ticking clock counting my time spent writing a message.
 
I see nothing within the comic to definitively indicate that the receiver is seeing the time spent composing the message; That is an assumption, whether correct or not. Personally, I think the whole comic works both ways: I would be mortified to have a ticking clock counting my time spent writing a message.
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[[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.226|162.158.75.226]] 07:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.226|162.158.75.226]] 07:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
  
I get where you're coming from, but that's inconsistent both with previous takes on the subject and with the title text. Also, there's that rectangle with three dots depicted inside that functions in Gmail to show/hide automatically hidden signature/footer and previous messages in the thread and is not shown in composing the mail, only in received/sent mails. To me, that's a definitive indication the "feature" is present in the sent mail, not in a draft. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.218|141.101.96.218]] 09:14, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
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:I get where you're coming from, but that's inconsistent both with previous takes on the subject and with the title text. Also, there's that rectangle with three dots depicted inside that functions in Gmail to show/hide automatically hidden signature/footer and previous messages in the thread and is not shown in composing the mail, only in received/sent mails. To me, that's a definitive indication the "feature" is present in the sent mail, not in a draft. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.218|141.101.96.218]] 09:14, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
  
Oh, just tested it and realized the triple-dot-button is present in composition window as well... Never mind :) I still think it's improbable the comic is about showing the info just to the sender, my argument about consistency with previous take and with the title text still stands. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.218|141.101.96.218]] 09:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
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::Oh, just tested it and realized the triple-dot-button is present in composition window as well... Never mind :) I still think it's improbable the comic is about showing the info just to the sender, my argument about consistency with previous take and with the title text still stands. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.218|141.101.96.218]] 09:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
  
Imho the text "before sending" indicates it's attached after sending the message. While editing the sender could be typing an template or something alike. Something not meant to be sent immediately after finishing. Vince [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.162|141.101.105.162]] 14:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
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:Imho the text "before sending" indicates it's attached after sending the message. While editing the sender could be typing an template or something alike. Something not meant to be sent immediately after finishing. Vince [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.162|141.101.105.162]] 14:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
  
 
Time spent editing this wiki page: ... [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 10:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 
Time spent editing this wiki page: ... [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 10:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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I feel like the comic is more about the addressee of the mail seeing how much time the sender spent on the mail. In the comic, I feel like the sender is asking about having another date with someone and try to be casual about it, which would be contradicted by the time he actually spent on it.

In the same way, the title indicates that the mail spent 3 days in the drafts while the sender writes "I just saw your message". It would be very awkward if the recipient of the mail could see that it is a lie.

162.158.88.224 14:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, you are correct. I misinterpreted the comic. Fvalves (talk) 15:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

He's always commenting on how you're responsible for how you're interpreted and now he's having difficulty managing his responsibility for how he's interpreted.162.158.69.50 16:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

This is MY nightmare email feature. I spend 10 minutes per line.

The paradox is that it takes a long time for Randall to craft a socially acceptable email, but it is socially unacceptable to spend a long time crafting emails. If the email's composition time becomes part of the email itself, then it is impossible for Randall to send a socially acceptable email. He is carefully choosing the right words, rhythm, and sentence structure in his emails, because he is expected to sound relaxed, natural, and off-the-cuff. 108.162.216.130 21:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I see nothing within the comic to definitively indicate that the receiver is seeing the time spent composing the message; That is an assumption, whether correct or not. Personally, I think the whole comic works both ways: I would be mortified to have a ticking clock counting my time spent writing a message. ... (I've spent four hours composing one SMS text.) I think the explanation should bear some indication of its speculative nature as to which party sees the timer. 162.158.75.226 07:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

I get where you're coming from, but that's inconsistent both with previous takes on the subject and with the title text. Also, there's that rectangle with three dots depicted inside that functions in Gmail to show/hide automatically hidden signature/footer and previous messages in the thread and is not shown in composing the mail, only in received/sent mails. To me, that's a definitive indication the "feature" is present in the sent mail, not in a draft. 141.101.96.218 09:14, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh, just tested it and realized the triple-dot-button is present in composition window as well... Never mind :) I still think it's improbable the comic is about showing the info just to the sender, my argument about consistency with previous take and with the title text still stands. 141.101.96.218 09:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Imho the text "before sending" indicates it's attached after sending the message. While editing the sender could be typing an template or something alike. Something not meant to be sent immediately after finishing. Vince 141.101.105.162 14:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Time spent editing this wiki page: ... Fabian42 (talk) 10:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)