Talk:1943: Universal Dreams

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Something is very wrong with the title text. 172.68.65.240 17:09, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Yea, I think it's because the title text on xkcd.com is actually designed to change the font midway to make it more jarring. Cgrimes85 (talk) 17:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
As explained in my correction summary, I corrected title text to adhere to the comic - it uses UNICODE U+FF21 - U+FF3A for dramatic effect instead of normal letters. See http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/ff21/index.htm or https://unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFF00.pdf 141.101.96.187 22:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

"This suggest an earthquake would happen soon in one of those major cities". Why? It's not hollywood, earthquakes can happen even in unpopulated areas. 172.68.54.70 17:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Earth quakes that influence few people are less likely to appear in global news and be confirm-able as the comic implies.162.158.74.27 00:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Black Hat would probably confirm the existence of earthquakes by checking websites like [1] instead of mass media. Also there is nothing in the comic about the earthquakes being major ones; seismometers can detect quakes that are too weak to be noticed by people even if they happen to be directly above the center of the quake, and since such tiny quakes are much more common than big ones, and since Black Hat implies this is a frequent dream for him, it isn't plausible that he would only dream about quakes that are above the news threshold. 162.158.238.172 10:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I agree completely; It seems not only presumptuous, but rather illogical to suggest that the alt-text would only be referring to major cities. If he's had the dreams often, it makes more sense to assume that he's coming up with coordinates for every major earthquake, regardless of it's location. My question is, have there been any major earthquakes in that zone since the comic was published? If so, we should mention that, as it adds amusing weight to the prophecy theme.
ProphetZarquon (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I love the [Citation Needed] tag on the line about dreams. 172.68.143.132 18:20, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, although the jokes are funny, poking a little fun at wikipedia's super serious style, I feel they are a little overused. Nonetheless I still add them occasionally... 108.162.219.214 23:00, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Aww, someone took it out. --172.69.33.167 03:09, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Well, I hadn't noticed that someone took it out, when I put one in. I'm not joking though: In all seriousness, aren't dreams about the future exceedingly common? I find the blanket statement that normal dreams don't do that to be very strange & potentially unfounded. I want to see some references backing up that assertion. ProphetZarquon (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Non-expert and no references, but I find dreams are more about memories - either my own experiences or things I recently saw on TV - and not the future. Which your brain doesn't know how to fill in. And the proposition is of dreams telling you what will happen in the future, but a normal dream about the future would be a guess; a prophetic dream, like in Shakespeare or the bible, is special. My explanation though is that Black Hat leaves World Service radio on at night, and radio news about earthquakes is incorporated in his dreams. Or he has an internet smart speaker which is programmed to do that. He knows what happened because he was already told. Robert Carnegie [email protected] 162.158.34.82 00:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Hm. If premonitory dreams are special, then about 60% of the dreams which I remember upon waking are special. Most of my dreams seem to be my brain trying to predict future events based upon my memories of that week. Half the rest are dreams that I'm flying, or following someone, & the rest are mostly dreams about work. A lot of my prophetic dreams do eventually come true, but I don't think I'm prescient or anything; I just figure that life is more predictable than we tend to feel it is. ProphetZarquon (talk) 19:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't get why someone suggested that Black Hat is Beret Guy in disguise. The nefarious nature of Black Hat's 'premonitions' is surely entirely consistent with Black Hat's personality...162.158.92.238 19:04, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Common dreams have also been the main topic of https://xkcd.com/557/ and https://xkcd.com/719/ . 172.68.51.88 21:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC) .tnm

Is it just me, or is Blackhat's speech seems very not blackhat like... Linker (talk) 23:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

I wondered that too. ProphetZarquon (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I...did not expect the comic to go that direction. When the first half of the comic loaded (my internet's kinda unreliable right now), I thought "This is probably going to be something questioning how universal these dreams are, and the fourth panel will be some caveman or something talking about its dream taking an exam and everyone will be confused." But no, it was more...surreal. I guess this is why Randall's the comic author and I'm not... 162.158.74.201 03:32, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

The USGS seems to list 6 candidate earthquakes https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#%7B%22autoUpdate%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22grayscale%22%2C%22feed%22%3A%221516268211196%22%2C%22listFormat%22%3A%22default%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A%5B%5B17.14079039331665%2C-124.892578125%5D%2C%5B47.57652571374621%2C-78.2666015625%5D%5D%2C%22overlays%22%3A%5B%22plates%22%5D%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3A%5B%22restrictListToMap%22%5D%2C%22search%22%3A%7B%22id%22%3A%221516268211196%22%2C%22name%22%3A%22Search%20Results%22%2C%22isSearch%22%3Atrue%2C%22params%22%3A%7B%22starttime%22%3A%222018-01-17%2000%3A00%3A00%22%2C%22endtime%22%3A%222018-01-18%2023%3A59%3A59%22%2C%22maxlatitude%22%3A36%2C%22minlatitude%22%3A35%2C%22maxlongitude%22%3A180%2C%22minlongitude%22%3A-180%2C%22minmagnitude%22%3A0%2C%22orderby%22%3A%22time%22%7D%7D%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22timezone%22%3A%22utc%22%2C%22viewModes%22%3A%5B%22list%22%2C%22map%22%5D%2C%22event%22%3Anull%7D 172.69.54.105 09:44, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Are these relevant enough to be added to the explanation of the zone defined (incompletely) in the alt-text? ProphetZarquon (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for that URL, it made my iPad zoom WAY out on the whole page to fit it on as few LONG lines as possible, LOL! (Just makes me wonder how many of those codes could just be replaced with the normal characterr). NiceGuy1 (talk) 04:21, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Does Randall no longer live in Somerville, MA?

Was thinking the same thing... both his books (Which I got for Christmas :P) both mention him living in Massachusetts on the cover. Thing explainer, the most recent book was released in 2015. I would assume he hasn't moved since then. Linker (talk) 13:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Edited that out. 172.68.11.113 14:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Reference for the horse dream

Could it be that the reference for the horse dream is the animated series Wildfire?