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DATASETS is one word. {{unsigned ip| 172.68.59.24}}
 
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:And ''data sets'' are two ;) (BTW: Please sign your posts) --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:And ''data sets'' are two ;) (BTW: Please sign your posts) --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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:[https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/data_set oxford] says it's data set(s) --[[User:Gusser93|Gusser93]] ([[User talk:Gusser93|talk]]) 21:36, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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::Sorry for my sarcasm, both is possible as can be seen here at Wikipedia: {{w|Data set|A data set (or dataset) is a collection of data...}}. Oxford doesn't cover the US. And on the other hand {{w|Shapefile|shapefile}} is really a single valid term belonging to the geographical information system (GIS). --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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::On a modem, there is a pin signal called "DSR" for "Data Set Ready," which would suggest that IBM (I think the terminology started with them) thought it should be two words (sometime back in the 1960's).  (Side note: The "data set" in this case was the modem itself; "set" being used in the context of "a bunch of components in a box", as in "TV set") (side note, part II: Grammerly is marking all the "data set"s here and suggesting they be written as "dataset") [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 18:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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Not by any means an expert, so I don't want to remove it without commenting, but I don't think the section on why "GIS survey team" is unrealistic holds up - I know the ShoreZone project (http://www.shorezone.org/) on the US and Canadian west coast uses almost exactly that kind of scientists-in-helicopters methodology. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.100|172.68.174.100]] 01:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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:That project sounds like it's collecting much more fine-grained data than simply coastal geometry - especially high resolution imagery, which does need to be taken from an aircraft. [[User:Stevage|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage|talk]]) 02:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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Cowboy Bebop, episode 24: "Hard Luck Woman." This is exactly what Radical Edward's father did. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.100|162.158.63.100]] 02:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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:I looked up that episode. Its a significant moment in Ed's dramatic arc. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 02:42, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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Shapefiles are an actual format: .shp It is defined, released to the public and is the format that is used to share vector files in GIS [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.49|172.68.189.49]] 21:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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:Yes, hence this sentence: "A Shapefile is a proprietary data format for spatial data which remains in widespread use, despite being created in the early 90s, and based on an even older database format." Is there something you feel is missing from that? [[User:Stevage|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage|talk]]) 23:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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:: We usually share data with teh public, inlcuding coastlines, in shapefile format, rather than geospatial database. To share in geospatial database is to make a database public, and that is generally not safe.
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Similar take on Hollywood tropes can be found in [[734: Outbreak]] (medical / zombie thrillers), and [[633: Blockbuster Mining]] (adapting stories, action movies). --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 08:28, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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The Title Text notes that this would not be as urgent as the proposed movie would portray, since updates are made quarterly.  I think the embellishment is similar to many Hollywood procedural shows, where test results (e.g., DNA matching) that take quite a bit of time in reality are available practically on demand. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.160|108.162.241.160]] 15:37, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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Just for the record (from a HI volcanalogist (?) I know), they do actually publish new maps several times a week during events like this, with updated coastlines. [[User:Afbach|Afbach]] ([[User talk:Afbach|talk]])

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DATASETS is one word. 172.68.59.24 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

And data sets are two ;) (BTW: Please sign your posts) --Dgbrt (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
oxford says it's data set(s) --Gusser93 (talk) 21:36, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry for my sarcasm, both is possible as can be seen here at Wikipedia: A data set (or dataset) is a collection of data.... Oxford doesn't cover the US. And on the other hand shapefile is really a single valid term belonging to the geographical information system (GIS). --Dgbrt (talk) 22:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
On a modem, there is a pin signal called "DSR" for "Data Set Ready," which would suggest that IBM (I think the terminology started with them) thought it should be two words (sometime back in the 1960's). (Side note: The "data set" in this case was the modem itself; "set" being used in the context of "a bunch of components in a box", as in "TV set") (side note, part II: Grammerly is marking all the "data set"s here and suggesting they be written as "dataset") JamesCurran (talk) 18:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Not by any means an expert, so I don't want to remove it without commenting, but I don't think the section on why "GIS survey team" is unrealistic holds up - I know the ShoreZone project (http://www.shorezone.org/) on the US and Canadian west coast uses almost exactly that kind of scientists-in-helicopters methodology. 172.68.174.100 01:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

That project sounds like it's collecting much more fine-grained data than simply coastal geometry - especially high resolution imagery, which does need to be taken from an aircraft. Stevage (talk) 02:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Cowboy Bebop, episode 24: "Hard Luck Woman." This is exactly what Radical Edward's father did. 162.158.63.100 02:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I looked up that episode. Its a significant moment in Ed's dramatic arc. These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For (talk) 02:42, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Shapefiles are an actual format: .shp It is defined, released to the public and is the format that is used to share vector files in GIS 172.68.189.49 21:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, hence this sentence: "A Shapefile is a proprietary data format for spatial data which remains in widespread use, despite being created in the early 90s, and based on an even older database format." Is there something you feel is missing from that? Stevage (talk) 23:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
We usually share data with teh public, inlcuding coastlines, in shapefile format, rather than geospatial database. To share in geospatial database is to make a database public, and that is generally not safe.

Similar take on Hollywood tropes can be found in 734: Outbreak (medical / zombie thrillers), and 633: Blockbuster Mining (adapting stories, action movies). --JakubNarebski (talk) 08:28, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

The Title Text notes that this would not be as urgent as the proposed movie would portray, since updates are made quarterly. I think the embellishment is similar to many Hollywood procedural shows, where test results (e.g., DNA matching) that take quite a bit of time in reality are available practically on demand. 108.162.241.160 15:37, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Just for the record (from a HI volcanalogist (?) I know), they do actually publish new maps several times a week during events like this, with updated coastlines. Afbach (talk)