https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:2225: Voting Referendum - Revision history2024-03-29T10:34:58ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=228878&oldid=prevMathmannix: Question about percentages given as examples in "Frist past the post" section2022-03-23T19:27:35Z<p>Question about percentages given as examples in "Frist past the post" section</p>
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</table>Mathmannixhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182840&oldid=prevLupo: just an anecdote2019-11-13T15:41:56Z<p>just an anecdote</p>
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</table>Lupohttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182751&oldid=prevKynde at 15:02, 12 November 20192019-11-12T15:02:05Z<p></p>
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</table>Kyndehttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182612&oldid=prev141.101.98.208 at 19:06, 11 November 20192019-11-11T19:06:45Z<p></p>
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</table>141.101.98.208https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182596&oldid=prevThese Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Added my ID to my edit2019-11-10T20:48:31Z<p>Added my ID to my edit</p>
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</table>These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking Forhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182594&oldid=prevThese Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For at 20:26, 10 November 20192019-11-10T20:26:50Z<p></p>
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</table>These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking Forhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182521&oldid=prevBobbingPebble: Add context on US electoral college vote distribution2019-11-09T14:27:18Z<p>Add context on US electoral college vote distribution</p>
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</table>BobbingPebblehttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182502&oldid=prev108.162.221.89: Add comment about best method selecting itself.2019-11-09T02:09:04Z<p>Add comment about best method selecting itself.</p>
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</table>108.162.221.89https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182486&oldid=prevSilverMagpie at 20:16, 8 November 20192019-11-08T20:16:42Z<p></p>
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</table>SilverMagpiehttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2225:_Voting_Referendum&diff=182453&oldid=prevCellocgw at 15:22, 8 November 20192019-11-08T15:22:31Z<p></p>
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