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I look at that graph, then think about the fact that my grandfather was born in 1870, my father in 1918, and I in 1969 (so my grandfather was 48 when my dad was born, and would have been 99 when I was born) and if things work out and I have my first child this year I will be 51 when it is born.  Who are the people having kids so young to pull that curve down so far that 50 is the *average* age for being a *grandparent?*  I know there are occasional out-of-wedlock births to kids in college or even high school, but if those stats are correct that would seem to dramatically underscore the need for better sex education, and better access to birth control, in schools.
 
I look at that graph, then think about the fact that my grandfather was born in 1870, my father in 1918, and I in 1969 (so my grandfather was 48 when my dad was born, and would have been 99 when I was born) and if things work out and I have my first child this year I will be 51 when it is born.  Who are the people having kids so young to pull that curve down so far that 50 is the *average* age for being a *grandparent?*  I know there are occasional out-of-wedlock births to kids in college or even high school, but if those stats are correct that would seem to dramatically underscore the need for better sex education, and better access to birth control, in schools.
 
--[[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.139|172.69.63.139]]  07:00, 23 February 2020‎ (UTC)
 
--[[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.139|172.69.63.139]]  07:00, 23 February 2020‎ (UTC)
:For what it's worth, I'm a millennial and my parents "had me" at 32, and it was considered "a little late in life" by their peers --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.10|162.158.122.10]] 17:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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:For what it's worth, I'm a millennial and my parents "had me" at 32, and it was considered "a little late in life" by their peers, even though they were just following my grandparents before them. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.10|162.158.122.10]] 17:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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Is the Title Text a callback to 2268 with the "no further research is needed" comment? Stickfigurefan (talk) 17:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

  • That was the first thing that came to my mind. Since researching when people named Jason and Chad became grandparents is far from a top research priority, one can indeed say that further research is not "needed". That said, though, I would have liked to have seen the female counterparts, to indicate what "Grandma" names are also coming into vogue now. --162.158.74.195 18:05, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    • Agree. I added a few sentences to that effect. To ela*borate: Enough research has been done to support the main joke which is the incongruity between what specific names implied in the 70's and what they imply today. More specific information would not improve the joke. And, let's face it, would not be very interesting. Epsilon (talk) 11:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
    • Note: Should we explain *x* to any non-nerds (or, the non-nerd ?) reading this? For text rendered in plain ASCII the asterisks surrounding a word or a phrase imply that this text should have been rendered in bold. I.e. emphasized. This might not be obvious to everybody. Epsilon (talk) 11:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Looks like I may have edited the page at the same time as someone else. Sorry about that! 108.162.216.148 18:41, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Does someone know of -- and can add to the explanation -- a reason why Jason and Chad are coming into popularity as names? In Australia, Jason Donovan was an actor who played a lead character in the popular soap "Neighbours" alongside Kylie Minogue (which is why, in Australia, we'd be getting "Grandma Kylie" coming into vogue. DrSamCarter (talk) 20:51, 21 February 2020 (UTC)DrSamCarter
    • Well, to be precise, Jason and Chad came into popularity about 50 years ago, but I don't know why that happened at that time. While it's true that you should be seeing a bunch of "Grandma Kylie"s in Australia now, Kylie Minogue can't take the credit for that. She was born into a generation where the name was already popular. In 1970, Kylie was the 5th most popular name for baby girls in Australia, so Kylie Minogue, born in 1968, might have gone to school with a number of other Kylies, well before she joined the cast of "Neighbours" in 1986. The name Kylie didn't catch on in the U.S. until much later, so it'll be years before we see a significant number of "Grandma Kylie"s here. --162.158.74.17 00:38, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
      • Jason and the Argonauts came out in 1963. Given the slower speed of film distribution, it is not farfecthed to think that some future parents were seeing it for the first time in the 70s and thought that would be a groovy name for their kids, or just watched it growing up and the name stuck with them. (Source for this being the most famous Jason: the Baby Boomers of America wouldn't talk about any other Jason while I was growing up).
Chad is a little harder. While there is a movie in the same time period with a protagonist named Chad, it was nowhere near as successful as Jason and the Argonauts. There was also a famous Canadian TV host named Chad at the time. Since the nickname originated near the Canadian border, it seems like a more likely candidate.
--162.158.122.10 17:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

In case someone wants to do further research on The Netherlands, here's some data on first names popularity: https://www.meertens.knaw.nl/nvb/english --IByte (talk) 09:55, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Current wiki link to Chad (slang) might be better changed to Chad (name). And, while we're there, one could also make Jason into the Jason_(given_name) link or similar? ((Re-edit to say that I understand the Chad Slang link is important. Maybe put that over another useful leap-off term, letting legitimate Jasons and Chads get their own glory???)) And I find the range of ages of grandparentage to be interesting, with both friends and relatives having rushed into new generations far quicker than me. (I have... four..? first cousins twice removed, if I haven't forgotten another one of them, and I think one of them might become a parent before I do.) Or maybe I'm just taking too long to settle down? 162.158.159.26 15:12, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

I look at that graph, then think about the fact that my grandfather was born in 1870, my father in 1918, and I in 1969 (so my grandfather was 48 when my dad was born, and would have been 99 when I was born) and if things work out and I have my first child this year I will be 51 when it is born. Who are the people having kids so young to pull that curve down so far that 50 is the *average* age for being a *grandparent?* I know there are occasional out-of-wedlock births to kids in college or even high school, but if those stats are correct that would seem to dramatically underscore the need for better sex education, and better access to birth control, in schools. --172.69.63.139 07:00, 23 February 2020‎ (UTC)

For what it's worth, I'm a millennial and my parents "had me" at 32, and it was considered "a little late in life" by their peers, even though they were just following my grandparents before them. --162.158.122.10 17:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)