Editing Talk:2360: Common Star Types

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I'm thinking a table (Name, appearance, summary, ¿is real?, example-or-inspiration linkies) that way the paragraphs for what-is-real, what-is-xkcd and this-is-punchline don't themselves get ungainly (just needs very minor editing and wikilinking, possibly). And apols again to the first explained who seemed to appreciate their submission as only a placeholder so I overwrote rather than integrated. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.171|162.158.158.171]] 22:37, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eta_Carinae&oldid=978789727] remained on Wikipedia for all of six minutes :/ [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.149|162.158.62.149]] 23:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
:There now, over a year later. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 03:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Ten minutes, surely? [[User:Lightcaller|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller|talk]]) 01:55, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

[https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jda.2017.10.005 Wat.] ([http://web.archive.org/web/20200917015430/https://openreview.net/pdf?id=SJgdPcVDPS Full text here.]) [[User:Lightcaller|Lightcaller]] ([[User talk:Lightcaller|talk]]) 01:55, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

And of course Brad Pitt is a star of yet another type... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.215.188|108.162.215.188]] 04:53, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Re Beige Gorgon, this is the average colour of the universe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_latte

Note that Fe<sup>II</sup> spectral lines actually refer to signs of Fe<sup>+</sup> ions (neutral is 'I', every ionisation level above that adds 1) but I can't see it mattering to anyone who doesn't read this far and it'd certainly have Fe<sup>III</sup> lines as well for 2+, or maybe I'm confused myself, so I supported the (chemistry) Ferrous association in the description with a link while I was editing nearby. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.19|162.158.158.19]] 09:45, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

My opinion: I'm kinda getting bored of this types of comics here - listing some real scientific stuff and some made up. There's been a lot of them, and they seem repetitive - no real new humor. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.103.125|162.158.103.125]] 11:30, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
:YMMV? Looking at the last 100, if I include a very broad justification for inclusion I get just 20% one could say are 'this type', but sub-10% (with [[2351]] the most recent) if I am more realistic about comparison. And I generally like them, but each to their own. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.32|162.158.159.32]] 14:10, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

...[https://inkbunny.net/s/1448946 Teal] [https://www.furaffinity.net/view/29652825/ Sp][https://theartofmtg.tumblr.com/post/54153978749/isperia-supreme-judge-by-scott-m-fischer hi][https://www.magic-ville.com/fr/carte_art?ref=10m073 nx]? :P [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.201|172.69.63.201]] 14:44, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
:I'm not seeing a plausible connection to Teal Swan, myself. [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 23:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think I believe Indigo Children is relevent, nor the Red Dwarf comedy series (in the table, though the Titletext mention as an example is Ok but is one thing among many that spoils it being concise). I mean, "mercury is (shiny) grey, the grey wizard is mercurial" makes more sense as a possibly inspirational factoid, but I don't want to add that because it's not really that explanatory. But never mind. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.171|162.158.158.171]] 23:38, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Question: What is the style guide for British vs. American Spelling (e.g., Color vs. Colour) in explain xkcd? I've seen quite a bit of that on this page. If it comes down to a vote, I think that we should stick with American spelling in general, because Randall is American. [[User:Argis13|Argis13]] ([[User talk:Argis13|talk]]) 18:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
:I believe the wiki standard is "consistency within an article" usually according to how the original contributors set it, where there isn't another factor (like direct quotation). Though before now I've seen perfectly consistent non-US spellings being (incompletely) systematically Americanized over an Anglicised (but possibly just Commonwealth/acceptible-everywhere-but-the-US) original. I don't think Johnson vs. Webster has yet arisen in a 'bracket' comic (or perhaps Merriam-Webster/OED to be actually current) so I don't know we can claim language-lover Randall ''automatically'' claims home-turf advantage. ;) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.32|162.158.159.32]] 19:46, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

I wonder if the indigo banshee isn't referring to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children indigo children][[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.60|172.69.34.60]] 23:30, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
:I imagine not. Sometimes a hue is just a hue. But now I think I know where the idea of the {{w|Time_(Baxter_novel)|Blue Children}} came from, in another unrelated thing. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.35|162.158.154.35]] 00:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps this comic was inspired by this fact: https://www.zdnet.com/article/20-years-of-linux-on-big-iron/
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.24.118|172.68.24.118]] 13:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Um, I didnt have to solve a catchpa to edit. Anybody know why? -[[User:Donthaveusername]] 10:02, 18 September 2020
::I believe reCAPTCHA has mechanisms to remember you as well as tracking your behavior on a page to see if you're human without having to pop up a CAPTCHA[[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.171|162.158.79.171]] 14:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

It's rather arbitrary, of course (these distinctions always are), but I had always assumed that "sphinx" was the fictional beast of myth, while "sphynx" refers to the real hairless cat breed. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.5|108.162.238.5]] 06:04, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

The indigo banshee might be a neutron star, as they are the smallest stars known (<20 km radius, the indigo banshee is even smaller than the white dwarf, although not by much here just to make it differentiable), extremely hot (100,000 - 1,000,000 K: the hue shifts beyond blue into indigo territory), and often show weird activity patterns (pulsars, X-ray binaries, radio emissions, magnetic fields) when compared to live stars. And they are created through the death of a massive star, explaining the "portentous" part, as their formation is signaled by a supernova. [[User:1572948|1572948]] ([[User talk:1572948|talk]]) 06:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm sad Randall didn't make a gag or even a reference to the Red Dwarf TV series, glad it's well represented in the explanation, at least. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 03:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)


== Added colour... ==

Let me know what you think. <span> — [[User:Sqrt-1|The <b>𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sqrt-1|<span style="color: blue">stalk</span>]]</sup></span> 11:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

== Scale ==
Is the scale correct for the real stars? [[Special:Contributions/172.68.24.130|172.68.24.130]] 11:02, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


No, not really. Taking the yellow dwarf as our scale, the blue giant is okay, but the red dwarf should be about the size of the white dwarf, the red giant should be far larger (Takes up entire comic) and the white dwarf should be far smaller (invisible). This is probably a case of artistic license. [[User:Argis13|Argis13]] ([[User talk:Argis13|talk]]) 14:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Some types of stars can vary in a wide range of sizes as well. Typical properties are shown below.

Yellow dwarf: 0.5-1.3 Rʘ; 0.3-1.2 Mʘ, 4000-6000 K, 0.05-2 Lʘ.
White dwarf: 0.003-0.04 Rʘ (between Mercury and Neptune in size, oddly enough the more massive ones are generally smaller), 0.07-1.4 Mʘ, any temperature, always dimmer than their past peak luminosity as a red giant.
Red dwarf: 0.09-0.5 Rʘ; 0.07-0.3 Mʘ, 1500-4000 K, 0.00001-0.05 Lʘ.
Red giant: 3-2000 Rʘ; 0.3-50 Mʘ, 2500-4000 K, 0.3-650000 Lʘ. 
Blue giant: 2-400 Rʘ; 2-300 Mʘ, 8000-60000 K, 15-10000000 Lʘ.

Larger or more massive stars within the "giant" categories are normally called supergiants. [[User:1572948|1572948]] ([[User talk:1572948|talk]]) 06:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC)