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(smallpox is on thin fucking ice is all i'm saying)
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:I do not think we will hesitate with eradicating diseases, like we did with smallpox. However, seems unlikely we will manage to eradicate any type of corona virus... sadly. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:40, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 
:I do not think we will hesitate with eradicating diseases, like we did with smallpox. However, seems unlikely we will manage to eradicate any type of corona virus... sadly. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:40, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 
:Do laws and treaties regarding protecting endangered species have exceptions for disease-causing organisms? Maybe viruses don't count because they're not considered to be alive, but what about bacteria?
 
:Do laws and treaties regarding protecting endangered species have exceptions for disease-causing organisms? Maybe viruses don't count because they're not considered to be alive, but what about bacteria?
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::They are not endangered. We have viable population {{w|Smallpox virus retention debate|stored safely}} so we can reintroduce it to wild anytime we want. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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:::Those words don't apply to viruses as noted, but if they did, IUCN would call that 'extinct in the wild' -- a kind of endangerment. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.154|172.69.34.154]] 06:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  
 
Do we ever attribute the title text to a particular character in the comic? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 13:27, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 
Do we ever attribute the title text to a particular character in the comic? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 13:27, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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:We do, whenever it is obvious that a character said it, and which one said it is equally trivial to ascertain. I would not say either can be done for this comic. The primary argument for Megan saying this is probably that if it were Cueball, he would be speaking out of turn. But a 3rd character or Randal seems much more likely to me here since the speech pattern does not mach the rest of the comic. You could maybe claim that such language is typical of Megan... but honestly its typical of Cueball as well, in his dark fantasy moments.
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:I 'solved' (FCVO) the attribution problem. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.174|141.101.98.174]] 13:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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I wonder whether it is worth discussing that smallpox was eradicated thanks to the fact it had only one possible host species, humans. COVID-19 is coming from animals, and can be hosted by multiple species, for example minks, cats, dogs, etc. So while we may be able to inoculate every human currently, the illness could come back at a later time (once new, non-inoculated humans are born), after it has been dormant in an alternate reservoir host for  that time. Thus it may not be possible to ever eradicate it, and having it as a new source of common cold may be the best possible. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.146|162.158.126.146]] 14:45, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

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Is this a slippery slope of morality we're heading down? 141.101.98.6

I do not think we will hesitate with eradicating diseases, like we did with smallpox. However, seems unlikely we will manage to eradicate any type of corona virus... sadly. --Kynde (talk) 09:40, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Do laws and treaties regarding protecting endangered species have exceptions for disease-causing organisms? Maybe viruses don't count because they're not considered to be alive, but what about bacteria?
They are not endangered. We have viable population stored safely so we can reintroduce it to wild anytime we want. -- Hkmaly (talk) 23:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Those words don't apply to viruses as noted, but if they did, IUCN would call that 'extinct in the wild' -- a kind of endangerment. 172.69.34.154 06:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Do we ever attribute the title text to a particular character in the comic? Barmar (talk) 13:27, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

We do, whenever it is obvious that a character said it, and which one said it is equally trivial to ascertain. I would not say either can be done for this comic. The primary argument for Megan saying this is probably that if it were Cueball, he would be speaking out of turn. But a 3rd character or Randal seems much more likely to me here since the speech pattern does not mach the rest of the comic. You could maybe claim that such language is typical of Megan... but honestly its typical of Cueball as well, in his dark fantasy moments.
I 'solved' (FCVO) the attribution problem. 141.101.98.174 13:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I wonder whether it is worth discussing that smallpox was eradicated thanks to the fact it had only one possible host species, humans. COVID-19 is coming from animals, and can be hosted by multiple species, for example minks, cats, dogs, etc. So while we may be able to inoculate every human currently, the illness could come back at a later time (once new, non-inoculated humans are born), after it has been dormant in an alternate reservoir host for that time. Thus it may not be possible to ever eradicate it, and having it as a new source of common cold may be the best possible. 162.158.126.146 14:45, 12 April 2021 (UTC)