https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:947:_Investing&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:947: Investing - Revision history2024-03-28T15:30:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:947:_Investing&diff=109485&oldid=prevDanshoham at 11:50, 19 January 20162016-01-19T11:50:19Z<p></p>
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</table>Danshohamhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:947:_Investing&diff=72542&oldid=prevOrazor at 13:43, 30 July 20142014-07-30T13:43:38Z<p></p>
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</table>Orazorhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:947:_Investing&diff=71594&oldid=prevTharkon at 01:35, 14 July 20142014-07-14T01:35:50Z<p></p>
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</table>Tharkonhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:947:_Investing&diff=66349&oldid=prevNealCruco at 16:14, 29 April 20142014-04-29T16:14:04Z<p></p>
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</table>NealCrucohttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:947:_Investing&diff=59853&oldid=prevDavidy22 at 17:40, 12 February 20142014-02-12T17:40:34Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::An alternative to investing in a bank account is to do with your money what the bank intends to do with your money, which is to loan it to other people at a higher interest rate, higher than the rate of inflation. Of course, some fraction of these loans will never be repaid, and you can't simply withdraw your money whenever you feel like it, so this type of scheme works better if you have tons of money to begin with-- more than just a thousand dollars seed money.[[Special:Contributions/63.155.139.54|63.155.139.54]] 14:39, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::An alternative to investing in a bank account is to do with your money what the bank intends to do with your money, which is to loan it to other people at a higher interest rate, higher than the rate of inflation. Of course, some fraction of these loans will never be repaid, and you can't simply withdraw your money whenever you feel like it, so this type of scheme works better if you have tons of money to begin with-- more than just a thousand dollars seed money.[[Special:Contributions/63.155.139.54|63.155.139.54]] 14:39, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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