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| ::If we're talking clefs/klingon weaponry, get on the viola clef. That's bat'leth AF. It's even known as a "K Clef" in some circles. You could do some pretty hefty damage with a viola clef. | | ::If we're talking clefs/klingon weaponry, get on the viola clef. That's bat'leth AF. It's even known as a "K Clef" in some circles. You could do some pretty hefty damage with a viola clef. |
| ::Or a viola...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.26|141.101.98.26]] 22:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC) | | ::Or a viola...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.26|141.101.98.26]] 22:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
β | :::What's shown in the explanation right now is a G-clef, not a treble-clef; I believe this to be an error. (Also the G-clef symbol doesn't display reliably on mobile.) The symbol 'treble-clef' is only mentioned by name, not shown in the comic; therefore, I think we should show a symbol that is actually ''specifically'' a treble-clef. A clef note only becomes a treble-clef note if the lines are included; otherwise it could mean ''any'' clef note. U+1D11E (π) is specifically a G-clef ''by name'' in its Unicode listing. The Unicode emoji U+1F3BC named 'Musical Score' is defined in Unicode as displaying a staff (or stave) with a clef note laid along the lowest of five horizontal lines, thereby forming a treble-clef. Not only is πΌ (U+1F3BC) a Treble-clef while π (U+1D11E) is ''not'', πΌ displays more universally on mobile than π does. Therefore, I'm going to correct the error. '''Please discuss the issue here if you think π should be used instead.''' | + | :::What's shown in the explanation right now is a G-clef, not a treble-clef; I believe this to be an error. (Also the G-clef symbol doesn't display reliably on mobile.) The symbol is only mentioned by name, not shown in the comic; therefore, I think we should show a symbol that is actually ''specifically'' a treble-clef. A clef note only becomes a treble-clef note if the lines are included; otherwise it could mean ''any'' clef note. U+1D11E (π) is specifically a G-clef ''by name'' in its Unicode listing. The Unicode emoji U+1F3BC named 'Musical Score' is defined in Unicode as displaying a staff (or stave) with a clef note laid along the lowest of five horizontal lines, thereby forming a treble-clef. Not only is πΌ (U+1F3BC) a Treble-clef while π (U+1D11E) is ''not'', πΌ displays more universally on mobile than π does. Therefore, I'm going to correct the error. '''Please discuss the issue here if you think π should be used instead.''' |
| :::[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 19:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC) | | :::[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 19:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC) |
β | ::::Yeah, π (U+1D11E) just doesn't display on my chromebook. [[User:Certified_nqh|Me]]<sup>[[[285: Wikipedian Protester|''citation needed'']]][[Category:Pages using the "citation needed" template]]</sup> 01:58, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
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β | ::::As someone who has studied a lot of music theory, I can say from a purely musical standpoint, there is no difference between a treble clef and G-clef. They are simply two different names for the same thing. While both symbols have their advantages and disadvantages, it really boils down to clarity vs. accessibility. πΌ may be displayed on more devices, but π makes things clearer on the specific symbol by getting rid of the staff. I personally have no preference on which symbol ExplainXKCD should use, but there are my arguments for each side. [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Miscellaneous#Help_with_Creating_a_User_Page|Trogdor147]] ([[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Miscellaneous#Help_with_Creating_a_User_Page|talk]]) 03:17, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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| These βweaponsβ seem strangely appropriate for xkcdβs stick figures... -cpl | | These βweaponsβ seem strangely appropriate for xkcdβs stick figures... -cpl |
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| I'm kind of shocked that no one has mentioned that the WhoWouldWin subreddit had a couple of threads which likely inspired this comic: https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/epm3tf/which_number_would_make_the_best_weapon/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/eq1ezq/which_letter_in_the_alphabet_would_make_the_best/. Of course, xkcd took it one step farther, but I wouldn't be surprised if those threads got the ball rolling. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.226|162.158.122.226]] 19:31, 10 August 2020 (UTC) | | I'm kind of shocked that no one has mentioned that the WhoWouldWin subreddit had a couple of threads which likely inspired this comic: https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/epm3tf/which_number_would_make_the_best_weapon/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/eq1ezq/which_letter_in_the_alphabet_would_make_the_best/. Of course, xkcd took it one step farther, but I wouldn't be surprised if those threads got the ball rolling. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.226|162.158.122.226]] 19:31, 10 August 2020 (UTC) |
β | :I think you're right! It's a shame Reddit threads lock in less than a year... I hope someone created a new thread based on this comic, linking the only old threads for reference.
| + | == Would anyone else like to join me in creating an anti-Gamma interest group? == |
β | :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 21:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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β | The treble clef at the bottom should probably be standardized, not that colorful clip art thing. [[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] ([[User talk:Dogman15|talk]]) 09:33, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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β | Something about this seems like Animation vs. Math by Alan Becker...
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β | [[User:AzurusTheFirst|AzurusTheFirst]] ([[User talk:AzurusTheFirst|talk]]) 02:54, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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β | == Would anyone else like to join me in creating an anti-Gamma interest group? ==
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| Just asking. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.223|172.69.33.223]] 21:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC) | | Just asking. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.223|172.69.33.223]] 21:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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β | :I ''hate'' the U+0393 "Ξ" symbol for Gamma as rendered in sans-serif, as it too closely resembles the Extended ASCII code 218 line-drawing character "β". The lowercase "Ι£" is more distinctive, but it just doesn't look like a voiced-velar fricative "gh" sound to me. The IPA symbol "Ι€" for a close-mid back unrounded vowel actually looks more like a "g" sound to me for some reason, but that's taken & I don't think this situation is worth fighting for it. ''When shown with serifs'' as Randall drew it, the uppercase "<math>\Gamma</math>" Gamma symbol ([https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/4cfde86a3f7ec967af9955d0988592f0693d2b19]) is plenty distinctive enough for me to identify visually. The sans-serif version bears very little resemblance to the symbol displayed in this comic. I would go so far as to say that displaying this symbol without its serifs is a bad practice. How do we go about getting some serifs shown on that symbol for more devices\fonts?
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β | :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 21:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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β | ::Russian Π is basically a "beck-de-corbin"; but, again, you have to make sure you use Russian "Cyrillic" uppercase symbol Π, not, for.ex., lowercase "Π³". RELEASE!!! [[Special:Contributions/172.68.10.178|172.68.10.178]] 21:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
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β | == What about... digits? ==
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β | I thing, Ein, Dos, Troix, Ne, Fem, Lu... E, Eight, Kyuu, Ten would do better.
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β | 1 is literally a spear
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β | 2 is quite a matcatcher-like hook.
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β | 3, unlike ballets, also has hook-like uses
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β | 4 is not just a spear. Its an "alspiece": a Swiss sword-made-of-broken-lance.
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β | 5 is a sickle.
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β | 6 is a... padlock. Attached to a chain, its being able to do damage
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β | 7 is a scythe
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β | 8 is... a chain. Combine 6 and 8 to fight in bludgeon fashion
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β | 9 is... I know, it's almost like 6. But in some fonts, 9 has serifs 6 doesn't get (9-corner 9, opposed to 6-corner 6) -- 9 would be a hammer.
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β | {{unsigned ip|172.68.10.230|21:18, 14 August 2020}}
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β | treble clef is not showing.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.174.177|172.70.174.177]] 00:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Dev
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