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Part of the explanation for alpha decay seems a bit mixed up: "...proton-rich / neutron-deficient heavy nuclei, which normally have many more neutrons than protons." Surely 'proton-rich' means more protons and 'neutron-deficient' means fewer neutrons, so such a nucleus would have many more protons than neutrons, wouldn't it? I hesitate to change the explanation because I'm more of a language expert than particle physicist. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.64.226|172.68.64.226]] 00:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 
Part of the explanation for alpha decay seems a bit mixed up: "...proton-rich / neutron-deficient heavy nuclei, which normally have many more neutrons than protons." Surely 'proton-rich' means more protons and 'neutron-deficient' means fewer neutrons, so such a nucleus would have many more protons than neutrons, wouldn't it? I hesitate to change the explanation because I'm more of a language expert than particle physicist. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.64.226|172.68.64.226]] 00:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 
:Consider uranium 238, which has 92 protons and 146 neutrons.  It decays by alpha radiation to thorium 234: 90 protons and 144 neutrons.  In both cases, there are a lot more neutrons than protons, but the ratio of neutrons to protons is higher in the latter because if N > P, N/P < (N-2)/(P-2).  Or polonium 210, with 84 protons and 126 neutrons, which decays by alpha (as the last step in the U-238 decay series) to stable lead 206, with 82 protons and 124 neutrons. With sufficient decrease in the number of protons and increase in the N/P ratio, the system becomes stable.  All elements have multiple possible isotopes, and as the proton count increases, the number of neutrons needed for stability tends to increase a bit more quickly.  If there aren't quite enough neutrons, a common decay mode is alpha, which decreases the proton count and "improves" the ratio.  If the number of neutrons is a bit too high for stability, the most common decay mode is beta, increasing the number of protons and decreasing the number of neutrons, again "improving" the ratio.  This is a gross oversimplification, of course. [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 05:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 
:Consider uranium 238, which has 92 protons and 146 neutrons.  It decays by alpha radiation to thorium 234: 90 protons and 144 neutrons.  In both cases, there are a lot more neutrons than protons, but the ratio of neutrons to protons is higher in the latter because if N > P, N/P < (N-2)/(P-2).  Or polonium 210, with 84 protons and 126 neutrons, which decays by alpha (as the last step in the U-238 decay series) to stable lead 206, with 82 protons and 124 neutrons. With sufficient decrease in the number of protons and increase in the N/P ratio, the system becomes stable.  All elements have multiple possible isotopes, and as the proton count increases, the number of neutrons needed for stability tends to increase a bit more quickly.  If there aren't quite enough neutrons, a common decay mode is alpha, which decreases the proton count and "improves" the ratio.  If the number of neutrons is a bit too high for stability, the most common decay mode is beta, increasing the number of protons and decreasing the number of neutrons, again "improving" the ratio.  This is a gross oversimplification, of course. [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 05:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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:I read "...proton-rich / neutron-deficient heavy nuclei, which normally have many more neutrons than protons." as "This example has more protons and less neutrons than you'd expect for a nucleus of this weight. One with this many nucleons, in total, should consist of a greater proportion of neutrons"... But it does look a bit confusing. Definitely would be open to a rewrite (but not flipping the beginning, which'd only be rightly understood when wrongly comprehended, and vice-versa). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.163|172.70.85.163]] 13:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 

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