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I expect that the BTS question is a reference to the traditional Korean system of counting a person's age in units of Sal which started at 1 and incremented on the first day of the year. Since this system was abandoned on official documents in 2023, but is still in use in some contexts, the question of whether every member of BTS had a "birthday" on the first day of the year is ambiguous. [[User:Philhower|Philhower]] ([[User talk:Philhower|talk]]) 14:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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question 5, planets exist outside the solar system, adding to the ambiguity. [[User:Philhower|Philhower]] ([[User talk:Philhower|talk]]) 14:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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As for question 9, please see the note about the history of Austrailia's capitals at: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_national_capitals#Oceania]]. and the page regarding countries with multiple capitals [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_multiple_capitals]] [[User:Philhower|Philhower]] ([[User talk:Philhower|talk]]) 14:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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About the alt text, London is certainly in Europe. The question itself is malformed because "Europe (or 'the EU')" is not self-consistent: there is a lot of European countries that are not part of the EU. [[User:RedGolpe|RedGolpe]] ([[User talk:RedGolpe|talk]]) 14:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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:The "Greater London" answer is also tricksy, as the "ceremonial county" of GL {{w|London boroughs|may not include}} the additional area of the City Of London (though it does include the City Of Westminster, which is sometimes the trick answer to certain trick questions that a quizmaster might attempt to pull). The ''administrative'' Greater London is the ceremonial one ''plus'' CoL, however... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.19|172.70.162.19]] 15:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benxi Benxi Lake] is actually considered to be the smallest lake in the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.135.205|172.70.135.205]]
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:{{cn}}[[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.176|172.70.86.176]] 14:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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I never realized how challenging it is to edit pages when they've just been posted.  Makes me long for something like Google docs.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.3.43|172.68.3.43]] 14:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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People, who are born on 29th February don't have a birthday in years which are not leap years. However, 2024, when this comic was published is a leap year. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.95.9|162.158.95.9]] 14:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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"5. How many planets were there originally?" This could also refer even back to the start of the universe, when there were (likely) just 0 planets. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.101|162.158.86.101]] 14:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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I anticiated a lot of Edit Conflicts, but not actually quite so many as to not to be able to resolve my edits with everyone else's. This is the bare-bones that I was putting in (until finding multiple attempts tried to be added consecutively...
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Question !! Problem !! Possible answer(s)
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| Which member of BTS has a birthday this year?
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| Every living person has a birthday this year (being a leap-year, this includes those born on 29/Feb).
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| How many sides does a platonic solid have?
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| There are five (or [[2781: The Six Platonic Solids|six]]) platonic solids, each with a different number of sides.
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| 4, 6, 8, 12 or 20
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| What is the smallest lake in the world?
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| The distinction between a small lake and a pond, pool or puddle (for example) is difficult to define.
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| Which Steven Spielberg movie features more shark attacks? Jaws (1875) or Lincoln (2012)
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| Not a problem, as Lincoln has very few shark attacks.{{Citation needed}} The problem is that barely anyone will ''not'' be able to correctly answer this.
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|-
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| How many planets were there originally?
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| Contextually vague. At what time and within what volume of space, and what is the scope of 'planet' defined here?
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| What NFL player has scored the most points outside of a game?
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| Outside of (NFL) games, individuals may accumulate points in any number of ways (e.g. Scrabble)
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| The Wright brothers built the first airplane. Who built the last one?
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| Until no further planes are built, individuals/teams/companies continue to build (to completion) ever more examples, changing the answer possibly moment to moment.
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| Is every even number greater than 2 the sum of two primes?
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| This is a {{w|Goldbach's conjecture|currently unanswered question}}.
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| Not counting Canberra, what city is the capital of Australia?
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| Canberra is ''the'' capital of Australia, a fairly well known 'obscure' fact. Each Australian territory also has their own state capital, so there is not one other ''single'' example.
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| Who played the drums?
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| Lack of context. With which group? For which song? For which (re-)recording? At which event?
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| Where is London located? (a) The British Isles (b) Great Britain and Northern Ireland (c) The UK (d) Europe (or 'the EU') (e) Greater London
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| Almost all of these are correct (though London is geographically in Europe but no longer in the EU).
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This is apparently deliberate (at least on behalf of the organisers), perhaps to upset or otherwise impede groups of overconfident quizzers who would otherwise dominate any genuinely good quiz.
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...make use of it however you wish, anybody who has the time not to keep chasing all the simultaneous edits. (The above is a bit behind 'perfection', and lacks many of the integrations, wikilinks and adjustments I had made. I backspaced out of the edit I had finally reached, before remembering to take a full copy into my paste-buffer!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.115|172.70.90.115]] 14:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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I expect that the BTS question is a reference to the traditional Korean system of counting a person's age in units of Sal which started at 1 and incremented on the first day of the year. Since this system was abandoned on official documents in 2023, but is still in use in some contexts, the question of whether every member of BTS had a "birthday" on the first day of the year is ambiguous. Philhower (talk) 14:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

question 5, planets exist outside the solar system, adding to the ambiguity. Philhower (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

As for question 9, please see the note about the history of Austrailia's capitals at: [[1]]. and the page regarding countries with multiple capitals [[2]] Philhower (talk) 14:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

About the alt text, London is certainly in Europe. The question itself is malformed because "Europe (or 'the EU')" is not self-consistent: there is a lot of European countries that are not part of the EU. RedGolpe (talk) 14:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

The "Greater London" answer is also tricksy, as the "ceremonial county" of GL may not include the additional area of the City Of London (though it does include the City Of Westminster, which is sometimes the trick answer to certain trick questions that a quizmaster might attempt to pull). The administrative Greater London is the ceremonial one plus CoL, however... 172.70.162.19 15:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

The Benxi Lake is actually considered to be the smallest lake in the world. 172.70.135.205

[citation needed]172.70.86.176 14:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I never realized how challenging it is to edit pages when they've just been posted. Makes me long for something like Google docs.172.68.3.43 14:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

People, who are born on 29th February don't have a birthday in years which are not leap years. However, 2024, when this comic was published is a leap year. --162.158.95.9 14:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

"5. How many planets were there originally?" This could also refer even back to the start of the universe, when there were (likely) just 0 planets. --162.158.86.101 14:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I anticiated a lot of Edit Conflicts, but not actually quite so many as to not to be able to resolve my edits with everyone else's. This is the bare-bones that I was putting in (until finding multiple attempts tried to be added consecutively...

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Question Problem Possible answer(s)
Which member of BTS has a birthday this year? Every living person has a birthday this year (being a leap-year, this includes those born on 29/Feb).
How many sides does a platonic solid have? There are five (or six) platonic solids, each with a different number of sides. 4, 6, 8, 12 or 20
What is the smallest lake in the world? The distinction between a small lake and a pond, pool or puddle (for example) is difficult to define.
Which Steven Spielberg movie features more shark attacks? Jaws (1875) or Lincoln (2012) Not a problem, as Lincoln has very few shark attacks.[citation needed] The problem is that barely anyone will not be able to correctly answer this.
How many planets were there originally? Contextually vague. At what time and within what volume of space, and what is the scope of 'planet' defined here?
What NFL player has scored the most points outside of a game? Outside of (NFL) games, individuals may accumulate points in any number of ways (e.g. Scrabble)
The Wright brothers built the first airplane. Who built the last one? Until no further planes are built, individuals/teams/companies continue to build (to completion) ever more examples, changing the answer possibly moment to moment.
Is every even number greater than 2 the sum of two primes? This is a currently unanswered question.
Not counting Canberra, what city is the capital of Australia? Canberra is the capital of Australia, a fairly well known 'obscure' fact. Each Australian territory also has their own state capital, so there is not one other single example.
Who played the drums? Lack of context. With which group? For which song? For which (re-)recording? At which event?
Where is London located? (a) The British Isles (b) Great Britain and Northern Ireland (c) The UK (d) Europe (or 'the EU') (e) Greater London Almost all of these are correct (though London is geographically in Europe but no longer in the EU).

This is apparently deliberate (at least on behalf of the organisers), perhaps to upset or otherwise impede groups of overconfident quizzers who would otherwise dominate any genuinely good quiz.

...make use of it however you wish, anybody who has the time not to keep chasing all the simultaneous edits. (The above is a bit behind 'perfection', and lacks many of the integrations, wikilinks and adjustments I had made. I backspaced out of the edit I had finally reached, before remembering to take a full copy into my paste-buffer!) 172.70.90.115 14:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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