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i thought this is common knowledge. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.173|162.158.90.173]] 15:00, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

It's normally supposed to block sunlight from reaching the telescope. This comic turns this on its head by suggesting the telescope emits light instead of collecting it. The emitted light is claimed to outshine the sun.
The title text means that the flash is bright enough to scar the surface of Mars, which is unlikely.
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.143|172.68.154.143]] 15:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
: According to wikipedia it is about preventing heat from reaching the telescope and only secondary about the light. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.139|172.68.110.139]] 15:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
::  The comic mentions the role of blocking light which is why I mentioned it's light-blocking property.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.141|172.68.154.141]] 15:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
::: Obviously, the comic distorts the facts to make it funny. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.121|172.68.110.121]] 15:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
::The point of the title text is that if the flash really were bright enough to serve its purpose, it ''would'' scar the surface of Mars (when Mars happens to be in that general direction).
Also, the JWST is drawn here to resemble the old Polaroid Land SX-70 Instant Camera (of just about 50 years ago.)  Hmmmm.  "Instant" raises issues of relativistic simultaeity....
:Worse than that, shutter-click and ''then'' a flash (at least a frame of time apart) isn't that useful.
:Trigger the flash and ''then'' the shutter around the time the flash returns. Depending upon distance and depth-of-field involved (also the duration of the flash and the movement of the subjects) you might have a longer shutter-open taking in passive light but mostly registering the 'bounce-back' from any given distance as the overwhelming flash gets there and back.
:(See various planetary nebulae photos where 'shells' of illumination, from subsequent flareups in the active centre, make it look like there's shells of matter, when it's more that these are volumes of debris that were in the right place at the right time to give us the current reflected glory. It makes for interesting mind-experiments.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.73|172.70.85.73]] 18:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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 ::  The comic mentions the role of blocking light which is why I mentioned it's light-blocking property.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.141|172.68.154.141]] 15:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 ::: Obviously, the comic distorts the facts to make it funny. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.121|172.68.110.121]] 15:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
-::The point of the title text is that if the flash really were bright enough to serve its purpose, it ''would'' scar the surface of Mars (when Mars happens to be in that general direction). {{unsigned|Barmar}}
+::The point of the title text is that if the flash really were bright enough to serve its purpose, it ''would'' scar the surface of Mars (when Mars happens to be in that general direction).
-:::SCAR? For the flash being bright enough, it would need to outshine supernovas. Mars would melt if not sublime. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:24, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 Also, the JWST is drawn here to resemble the old Polaroid Land SX-70 Instant Camera (of just about 50 years ago.)  Hmmmm.  "Instant" raises issues of relativistic simultaeity....
 :Worse than that, shutter-click and ''then'' a flash (at least a frame of time apart) isn't that useful.
-:Trigger the flash and ''then'' the shutter around the time the flash returns. Depending upon distance and depth-of-field involved (also the duration of the flash and the movement of the subjects) you might have a longer shutter-open taking in passive light ''already'', but only if you're happy mostly registering the 'bounce-back' from any given distance as the overwhelming flash gets there and back and don't mind the low amount of non-flash light leaching in, perhaps revealing motion.
+:Trigger the flash and ''then'' the shutter around the time the flash returns. Depending upon distance and depth-of-field involved (also the duration of the flash and the movement of the subjects) you might have a longer shutter-open taking in passive light but mostly registering the 'bounce-back' from any given distance as the overwhelming flash gets there and back.
 :(See various planetary nebulae photos where 'shells' of illumination, from subsequent flareups in the active centre, make it look like there's shells of matter, when it's more that these are volumes of debris that were in the right place at the right time to give us the current reflected glory. It makes for interesting mind-experiments.) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.73|172.70.85.73]] 18:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
-The JWST doesn't have a physical shutter, but makes a clicking sound so that it can't secretly take voyeuristic photographs of the universe.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.187.92|162.158.187.92]] 21:24, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
-Searching for facts I found three comics with facts in the title, and also one other using facts like this ones Astronomy Fact. I have thus added this: [[:Category:Facts]], with [[:Category:Fun fact]] as a sub category. I have only found 5 comics so far. But where "facts" is only used a limited time, then "fact" is used more than 500 times. And the two with fact that are not in the title only used the word "fact". So if you can remember any other comic with facts that are not fun facts, then please add them to the category. As I wrote on the fact page this reminds me of the [[:Category:Tips]] under which [[:Category:Protip]] now belongs. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 08:48, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
-I have also added all JWST comics to [[:Category:Space probes]] and wrote a bit about it in the collapsed explanation there. But may be with 6 comics (and more on the way?) it should have it's own category. What do people think about that? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
-:Wait, the JWST is NOT a space probe. It is a space telescope for imaging purposes. So I disagree with putting it in that category. It already fits in the category for telescopes. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.214.43|172.70.214.43]] 19:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
-Concerning the "click"-part in the explanation: If the JWST is using a reflex camera, the clicking noise is the mirror moving out of the way for the exposure, is producing a clicking noise far louder than a shutter mechanism and obviously happens before exposure/flashing. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.180|162.158.89.180]] 07:45, 10 January 2022 (UTC)