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| | :--[[User:FrankHightower|FrankHightower]] ([[User talk:FrankHightower|talk]]) 04:37, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | | :--[[User:FrankHightower|FrankHightower]] ([[User talk:FrankHightower|talk]]) 04:37, 14 April 2022 (UTC) |
| | ::I'm very sorry if I was one of those who stepped on your edits. I was originally trying to fix brokenness in the table.<br /><span style="font-size: small;">^^^^^</span> ≫ <span style="font-size: xx-large;"><sub>^</sub></span> is the symbol for preferring many small edits over not saving your work often in a batch-mode collaborative editing environment. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.207.8|172.70.207.8]] 04:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | | ::I'm very sorry if I was one of those who stepped on your edits. I was originally trying to fix brokenness in the table.<br /><span style="font-size: small;">^^^^^</span> ≫ <span style="font-size: xx-large;"><sub>^</sub></span> is the symbol for preferring many small edits over not saving your work often in a batch-mode collaborative editing environment. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.207.8|172.70.207.8]] 04:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC) |
| − | :::since adding a column means adding a cell to every row, I thought it would be easier/better to put something in each cell. I wasn't expecting this --[[User:FrankHightower|FrankHightower]] ([[User talk:FrankHightower|talk]]) 18:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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| | :: Don't worry about it, idk why I was so upset. It's that feeling you get when you click "save" and then suddenly it's gone. If anything's still missing, I'll just restore it. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.106|172.70.131.106]] 05:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | | :: Don't worry about it, idk why I was so upset. It's that feeling you get when you click "save" and then suddenly it's gone. If anything's still missing, I'll just restore it. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.106|172.70.131.106]] 05:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC) |
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| | :: Identical both vertically and horizontally? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.131|172.69.134.131]] 07:32, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | | :: Identical both vertically and horizontally? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.134.131|172.69.134.131]] 07:32, 14 April 2022 (UTC) |
| | :: I found one suggestion that the dodecathorp should be used to refer to very big numbers...[[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.223|172.69.79.223]] 08:33, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | | :: I found one suggestion that the dodecathorp should be used to refer to very big numbers...[[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.223|172.69.79.223]] 08:33, 14 April 2022 (UTC) |
| − | :: Three vertical bars means "similar to", so that'd be identical to and similar... to. OK that doesn't work. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.75|172.70.230.75]] 04:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| | Apparently, Randall reads Hacker News like the rest of us... --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.141|172.68.110.141]] 09:38, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | | Apparently, Randall reads Hacker News like the rest of us... --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.141|172.68.110.141]] 09:38, 14 April 2022 (UTC) |
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| | While cute, I think it'd probably be better to remove the Unicode letters in the chart for the second hashtag (⩩). Not only would it mess up screenreaders, but it doesn't actually look like the image in question. Perhaps it would be better to upload an image and give it some alt text to describe it. | | While cute, I think it'd probably be better to remove the Unicode letters in the chart for the second hashtag (⩩). Not only would it mess up screenreaders, but it doesn't actually look like the image in question. Perhaps it would be better to upload an image and give it some alt text to describe it. |
| | --[[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly|talk]]) 00:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | | --[[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly|talk]]) 00:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC) |
| − | :Could the strange-looking characters be made to look like the image in question using Unicode combining diacritical marks? [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 15:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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| − | :A screen reader should read it as "Double struck H, Double struck a, double struck s..." etc. which seems a pretty accurate readout to me --18:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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| | == Calming down - Sigma long S == | | == Calming down - Sigma long S == |
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| | "Other links: XKCD #2606 mentions ⍼ and its Explain XKCD entry cites this post" yooo people the blog post now mentions us! Someone put this in trivia or something [[User:Mushrooms|Mushrooms]] ([[User talk:Mushrooms|talk]]) 09:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | | "Other links: XKCD #2606 mentions ⍼ and its Explain XKCD entry cites this post" yooo people the blog post now mentions us! Someone put this in trivia or something [[User:Mushrooms|Mushrooms]] ([[User talk:Mushrooms|talk]]) 09:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC) |
| − | :Ah, yes, so the article we reference that we think Randall references has now referenced both him and us and so now we ought to reference that? [[978: Citogenesis|Seems perfectly Ok to me!]] :-p | + | :Ah, yes, so the article we reference that we think Randall references has now referenced both him and us and so now we ought to reference that? [[978: Citogenesis|Seems lerfecy Ok to me!]] :-p |
| | :(P.S. Hello to that author. You should just be glad that you're not Wikipedia... ;) ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.147|172.70.162.147]] 11:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | | :(P.S. Hello to that author. You should just be glad that you're not Wikipedia... ;) ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.147|172.70.162.147]] 11:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC) |
| − | ::The blog author is [[User:Ionchy]], who has contributed to the discussion above. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.72|172.70.211.72]] 13:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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| − | Any of these that are particularly obscure and someone doesn't find and post here what its actual existing use is will be impossible to research later, as people talking about this comic will end up dominating the results of any attempt to search for the symbol.--[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.27|108.162.216.27]] 00:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| − | :What does the symbol ⍼ mean?
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼, known as a "diaeresis" or "umlaut", is used in some languages to indicate that the two vowels it is placed over are to be pronounced separately, rather than as a single vowel sound.
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| − | :No, it isn't either of those.
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| − | :;It means "integral" in APL.
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| − | :Well, that's a better guess, but also wrong.
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| − | :;It's actually a symbol used in chemistry to indicate that two atoms are bonded together covalently.
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| − | :No, that's a colon, :. Try again?
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| − | :;It's actually a symbol used in physics to indicate that two particles are interacting.
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| − | :That seems very plausible! What is your source?
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼ is actually used in mathematics to indicate that a function is continuous.
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| − | :In math, might it indicate an indefinitely-valued relation over a finite domain.
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| − | :;I.e. for the domain {1,2,3,4} the relation "is even" would be symbolized:
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼ is not typically used to indicate an indefinitely-valued relation over a finite domain.
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| − | :More like, the relation "nearest other evens" for the domain {1, 2, 3, 4} would map to, in order, {{0,2}, {0, 4}, {2, 4}, {2, 6}}. But that's not an indefinitely-valued relation or a finite domain, as each integer maps to exactly two other integers.
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼ is not typically used to indicate an indefinitely-valued relation over a finite domain.
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| − | :Well it doesn't indicate that a function is continuous, either. So what does it actually mean?
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼ is actually used in set theory to indicate that a function is one-to-one.
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| − | :No. I liked your physics idea, meaning two particles interacting.
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| − | :;But that's not it either.
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼ is actually used in logic to indicate that a formula is valid.
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| − | :How? Give an example?
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| − | :;The symbol ⍼ can be used to indicate that a formula is valid if the following holds:
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| − | :;In other words, the formula is valid if the statement "p or q" is true if and only if the statement "p is valid or q is valid" is true.
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| − | :;P and Q can be any formulas. So, for example, if P is the formula "x+1=2" and Q is the formula "x=1", then the formula "P or Q" is true if and only if either "x+1=2" is valid or "x=1" is valid.
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| − | :;A formula is valid if it is true in all possible circumstances. So, for example, the formula "x+1=2" is valid if and only if, no matter what value x takes, the statement "x+1=2" is always true.
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| − | :;No, the formula "x+1=2" is not valid, because there are some values of x for which the statement "x+1=2" is not true. For example, if x=0, then "x+1=2" is not true.
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| − | :;Yes, the formula "x>x-1" is valid, because no matter what value x takes, the statement "x>x-1" is always true.
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| − | :;The formula "x>x-1" is still valid if x is infinity, because no matter what value x takes, the statement "x>x-1" is always true.
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| − | :So how can the formula "x>x-1" be valid?
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| − | :;The formula "x>x-1" is valid because it is true in all possible circumstances. So, for example, if x=0, then "x>x-1" is true because 0 is greater than 0-1. If x=1, then "x>x-1" is true because 1 is greater than 1-1. If x=infinity, then "x>x-1" is still true because infinity is greater than infinity minus one.
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| − | :;No, infinity is not greater than infinity minus one, because infinity minus one is still infinity.
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| − | :;No, I didn't contradict myself. The formula "x>x-1" is valid because it is true in all possible circumstances. So, for example, if x=0, then "x>x-1" is true because 0 is greater than 0-1. If x=1, then "x>x-1" is true because 1 is greater than 1-1. If x=infinity, then "x>x-1" is still true because infinity is greater than infinity minus one.
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| − | :That last sentence is a direct contradiction of your previous statement.
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| − | :;No, it's not a contradiction. The formula "x>x-1" is valid because it is true in all possible circumstances. So, for example, if x=0, then "x>x-1" is true because 0 is greater than 0-1. If x=1, then "x>x-1" is true because 1 is greater than 1-1. If x=infinity, then "x>x-1" is still true because infinity is greater than infinity minus one.
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| − | [[Special:Contributions/172.70.250.67|172.70.250.67]] 16:19, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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| − | :On Windows, you mean? Use regedit.exe to create a registry key under HKEY_CURRENT_USER of type REG_SZ called EnableHexNumpad, and set its value to 1, and then reboot. Then you can enter Unicode symbols by holding down the Alt key and typing the plus sign on the numeric keypad followed by the hexadecimal character value. For some reason this doesn't work in Internet Explorer, but does in Chrome, Firefox, and most other applications. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.52|172.70.211.52]] 04:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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