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− | Cueball says 'people are working so hard to make it complicated when it's one of the few things in this world that isn't'. Given the length and fractiousness of this comments section, I think they may have a point. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.138|172.69.43.138]] 15:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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− | Excess deaths are up, cancers are up, dementia is up, strokes are up. There must be a simple explanation for this all... if only there were one.
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− | Oh well. Guess science can't explain everything after all. I used to get mad at fanatics, but now I just feel sad, because the denial is rock solid.
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− | [[User:Scienceizkool|Scienceizkool]] ([[User talk:Scienceizkool|talk]]) 03:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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− | :Your point is ambiguous. Despite your username, hard to tell if you're using sarcasm or not. Poe's law seems to apply. But, to extend/counter your point (whichever), we can say:
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− | :*Excess deaths are a comparison of the expected trend, from thenimmediate lead-up of historic data, against what is then seen. Higher excess deaths could mean reversion to the mean after doing well on death-prevention before. Give or take whether you account for all those that previously didn't die who are now older and thus closer to dying from ''something else'', which a good Excess Deaths estimation might need to account for (slice it up be age demographics, obviously a 20yo who fortunately didn't die at 18 isn't likely to die of old age by 22).
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− | :*Dementia and strokes are the kinds of thing you die of when you "haven't died of anything else", so if you're saving people from dying of cholera, car-crashes, rampaging cattle stampedes or suicide (through healthcare, seatbelts, farm safety and treating depression) then people will get old and succumb to more geriatric condictions.
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− | :...so, yes, science can explain things. The fine detail can be argued about, but you can always check how much good data you have in order to give confidence to the minutiae, but population-wide statistics across stretches of time tend to be fairly reliable as far as such conclusions. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.20|172.70.162.20]] 10:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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− | :Get boosted [[User:Scienceizkool|Scienceizkool]] ([[User talk:Scienceizkool|talk]]) 20:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
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