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| : Same immediate association here. You soooo beat me to it...TVTropes doesn't call it "BatDeduction" for nothing. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.160.25|172.71.160.25]] 18:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC) | | : Same immediate association here. You soooo beat me to it...TVTropes doesn't call it "BatDeduction" for nothing. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.160.25|172.71.160.25]] 18:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
− | :: I think the 1966 Batman is a bad one, because that is mocking the whole phenomenon. But Batman Forever is an example, where this was seemingly played straight. Batman jumps from the solutions to Riddler's riddles, which are obvious but don't say much to the fact that the answers aren't the point. The riddles are pointing to numbers, and then when the digits are combined in the right way, they form an alphanumeric code. The code spells out A,M,R, which then is supposed to be read as MR E —> mystery, and enigma is a synonym for mystery. Ergo Edward Nigma is the Riddler. The kicker is that it was completely obvious that Nigma was the Riddler, if one put three seconds of thought into how the Riddler was committing his crimes, instead of making a blind leap from the riddles.
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− | ::Aunt Alice did, but when she told her will to her lawyer Bob, Eve listened in and got the tresure before... --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
| + | Aunt Alice did, but when she told her will to her lawyer Bob, Eve listened in and got the tresure before... --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 13:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
− | ::: Actually, I feel like 1966 Batman being also a reference to this sloppy mystery design trope makes it MORE relevant, not less. Though I agree about Batman Forever (except it wasn't A M R, it was M A H E, but the 1 of A and the 8 of H were to be combined into the 18 of R. I forget if anything linked those clues to make this logical, but I doubt it, LOL!). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:48, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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| This reminds me a lot of the classic E.Nesbit book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_the_Amulet | | This reminds me a lot of the classic E.Nesbit book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_the_Amulet |
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| This one made me think of the Encyclopedia Brown books. Most of those puzzles were baffling if you thought about it for more than 5 minutes, like the stolen money was stored in stuffed penguins in a museum display on the artic wildlife, the reason that Brown figured that out was penguins were only in the southern hemisphere, which doesn't explain where the penguins to be stuffed with money came from in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.225|172.68.26.225]] 16:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | | This one made me think of the Encyclopedia Brown books. Most of those puzzles were baffling if you thought about it for more than 5 minutes, like the stolen money was stored in stuffed penguins in a museum display on the artic wildlife, the reason that Brown figured that out was penguins were only in the southern hemisphere, which doesn't explain where the penguins to be stuffed with money came from in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.225|172.68.26.225]] 16:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC) |
− | :You said it yourself: The southern hemisphere... Ultimately. ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.179|172.71.242.179]] 17:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | Hang on, Cousin Mallory is trying to eavesdrop again. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.167.67|172.71.167.67]] 18:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | The important question, though: is it Gertrude as in gif or Gertrude as in gin? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.223.189|172.69.223.189]] 10:17, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | :It's actually Gertrude as in gnome.... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.195.176|172.69.195.176]] 11:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | :Trying to start an argument by using the same kind of G twice? I see what you're doing... [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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− | I grew up with Enid Blyton (British author, I assume my mom's familiarity with British stuff led to this), loved them, particularly the Famous Five and the Adventure series, I'm sad that I can't remember which side of this particular coin Blyton lands on, LOL! I FEEL like they were great, fun books? So maybe Blyton was decent at designing mysteries? Both WERE stories of this ilk, children on their own finding, investigating, and solving mysteries (not sure about Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew, etc, but they were NEVER at home, always travelling, LOL! What kind of kids travel and explore unfamiliar locations without adults?) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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