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That Q is pretty easy to read, but a lot of people write it in a way that looks more like 2. That Q always throws me off. The 2 goes close to the bottom left, neither cool nor legible. [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 21:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | That Q is pretty easy to read, but a lot of people write it in a way that looks more like 2. That Q always throws me off. The 2 goes close to the bottom left, neither cool nor legible. [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 21:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Cursive has been in the news lately, almost half the US states have recently passed laws requiring that cursive writing be taught in elementary schools. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 21:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | Cursive has been in the news lately, almost half the US states have recently passed laws requiring that cursive writing be taught in elementary schools. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 21:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Recently? I think only California did it recently, most of those laws are older. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | :Recently? I think only California did it recently, most of those laws are older. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
::Well, California's move made the news last year, and sparked some nationwide discussion. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ::Well, California's move made the news last year, and sparked some nationwide discussion. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Is this the default cursive taught in US American schools? I’ve often seen this capital I, G and Q on (older) Hollywood films, but the (standard) cursive writing in Germany or France looks completely different. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.99|162.158.154.99]] 21:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | Is this the default cursive taught in US American schools? I’ve often seen this capital I, G and Q on (older) Hollywood films, but the (standard) cursive writing in Germany or France looks completely different. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.99|162.158.154.99]] 21:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Yes for the most part, at least from when I was taught (early 2000s). Though, we were taught the Q that looks like a 2, like the poster above comments on. [[User:ZeWaka|ZeWaka]] ([[User talk:ZeWaka|talk]]) 06:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | :Yes for the most part, at least from when I was taught (early 2000s). Though, we were taught the Q that looks like a 2, like the poster above comments on. [[User:ZeWaka|ZeWaka]] ([[User talk:ZeWaka|talk]]) 06:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Labelled: https://i.imgur.com/dTdLgO6.png [[User:Bewa|Bewa]] ([[User talk:Bewa|talk]]) 22:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | Labelled: https://i.imgur.com/dTdLgO6.png [[User:Bewa|Bewa]] ([[User talk:Bewa|talk]]) 22:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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::I had a quick look for other people's experiences in the UK, and it seems to distil down into [https://www.quora.com/Do-British-people-use-cursive-writing-If-yes-what-does-it-look-like this sort of answer] (look out for Quora's latest attempt to answer with 'AI bot' and get you to sign in, it's just the human answer that's relevent, etc...). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.167|172.70.160.167]] 09:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ::I had a quick look for other people's experiences in the UK, and it seems to distil down into [https://www.quora.com/Do-British-people-use-cursive-writing-If-yes-what-does-it-look-like this sort of answer] (look out for Quora's latest attempt to answer with 'AI bot' and get you to sign in, it's just the human answer that's relevent, etc...). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.167|172.70.160.167]] 09:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
::When I was in school in the 60's and 70's, we used pencils in early grades and ballpoints in later grades. Cheap BIC pens were the norm where I grew up (I had to google to find out what "biro" means). Fountain pens were often just fancy gifts. I got into a fountain pen phase in high school, I think because they were different and seemed "cool", but it took some practice to write legibly with them. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ::When I was in school in the 60's and 70's, we used pencils in early grades and ballpoints in later grades. Cheap BIC pens were the norm where I grew up (I had to google to find out what "biro" means). Fountain pens were often just fancy gifts. I got into a fountain pen phase in high school, I think because they were different and seemed "cool", but it took some practice to write legibly with them. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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: Randall's cursive is almost identical to that taught by the Zaner-Bloser Method (which, coincidentally, is also how I learned). People often customize their cursive as they grow older (for example, I add a top loop to the letter "s" to make it more readable to those who don't know cursive), but Zaner-Bloser is generally considered standard. Well, except by people who use the D'Nealian method, but they're a bunch of heretics. --[[User:The-Daleks|The Daleks]] ([[User talk:The-Daleks|talk]]) 20:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | : Randall's cursive is almost identical to that taught by the Zaner-Bloser Method (which, coincidentally, is also how I learned). People often customize their cursive as they grow older (for example, I add a top loop to the letter "s" to make it more readable to those who don't know cursive), but Zaner-Bloser is generally considered standard. Well, except by people who use the D'Nealian method, but they're a bunch of heretics. --[[User:The-Daleks|The Daleks]] ([[User talk:The-Daleks|talk]]) 20:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
:I can't remember learning cursive so I can't remember how we were taught to make Z, so, yeah, on the rare occasion I go cursive I just do the non-cursive with a leading and trailing tail. :) (I've gotten VERY fast and neat with block letters - I get compliments on my neat handwriting - so I rarely try cursive, I think my cursive is actually slower), :) And yes, I find my cursive Z ugly and awkward as hell, so I always hesitate over them and cringe after, and wish I could figure out a better way (I never even remotely remember the existence of these to try them, but recognize them when I see them). That's probably the reason for these, they look nice and have a visual flow, at least. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) | :I can't remember learning cursive so I can't remember how we were taught to make Z, so, yeah, on the rare occasion I go cursive I just do the non-cursive with a leading and trailing tail. :) (I've gotten VERY fast and neat with block letters - I get compliments on my neat handwriting - so I rarely try cursive, I think my cursive is actually slower), :) And yes, I find my cursive Z ugly and awkward as hell, so I always hesitate over them and cringe after, and wish I could figure out a better way (I never even remotely remember the existence of these to try them, but recognize them when I see them). That's probably the reason for these, they look nice and have a visual flow, at least. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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I was 100% sure the graph included some Greek letters (commonly used in physics), such as nu, and that the lower right corner was zeta (or a weird reverse xi). Randall previously made fun of zeta ("a hair fell on the scanned page") so it made sense to me. Admittedly, English isn't my first language so I'm not used to reading cursive. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.134.207|172.71.134.207]] 14:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | I was 100% sure the graph included some Greek letters (commonly used in physics), such as nu, and that the lower right corner was zeta (or a weird reverse xi). Randall previously made fun of zeta ("a hair fell on the scanned page") so it made sense to me. Admittedly, English isn't my first language so I'm not used to reading cursive. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.134.207|172.71.134.207]] 14:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
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: Still looks better than Russian cursive, :) Showed some to a friend who can speak and read Russian, she surprisingly could read a lot of the block I showed her. I don't know HOW that's legible. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC) | : Still looks better than Russian cursive, :) Showed some to a friend who can speak and read Russian, she surprisingly could read a lot of the block I showed her. I don't know HOW that's legible. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
− | I have to disagree with "S" and "s" being so low on the Y-axis, or with them being next to each other. Both, especially "S", are just a non-cursive "S", just starting with a tail to the baseline. Lowercase "s" mostly skipping its top curve places it lower than "S", not parallel. | + | I have to disagree with "S" and "s" being so low on the Y-axis, or with them being next to each other. Both, especially "S", are just a non-cursive "S", just starting with a tail to the baseline. Lowercase "s" mostly skipping its top curve places it lower than "S", not parallel. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC) |
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