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Tempted to add a link in the Trivia section to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Warrimoo Wikipedia] or [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ss-warrimoo/ Snopes] pages on the SS Warrimoo, a ship that (reportedly) was on the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line at the stroke of midnight on January 1, 1900, with a number of interesting implications that follow. There's no way to prove that it actually happened, but it's fun to imagine and is somewhat similar to the premise of the comic. --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.15|108.162.221.15]] 14:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 
Tempted to add a link in the Trivia section to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Warrimoo Wikipedia] or [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ss-warrimoo/ Snopes] pages on the SS Warrimoo, a ship that (reportedly) was on the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line at the stroke of midnight on January 1, 1900, with a number of interesting implications that follow. There's no way to prove that it actually happened, but it's fun to imagine and is somewhat similar to the premise of the comic. --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.15|108.162.221.15]] 14:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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:What convinces me that it's a post-constructed yarn, rather than a legitimate account of a plausible event, is that the 1899-1900 'specialness' is (numerically aside) significant only from a more modern viewpoint. The dominant view at the alleged time of the incident, was the 1-rooted changeover between Centuries (1801 through to the end of 1900, then 1901-2000 to follow), and only changed as the more classical form of education/opinion phased out of common use. It was either later contrived from whole cloth as a tall-tale (if done at the time, it would have been given a 1900/1901 timestamp) or gradually embroidered with all the extra coincidental boundary-crossings (spatial and temporal) well after the actual inspirational seed incident in order to make a better anecdote/shaggy-dog-story.... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.12|172.70.86.12]] 15:33, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
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:::Okay... but it's fun to imagine... and is somewhat similar to the premise of the comic. And I'd say it's a good deal more plausible than the situation presented in the comic. --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.43|108.162.221.43]] 16:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
  
 
Many airplanes actually have limitations written into their operating manuals that prohibit flying north of 89 deg. N or south of 89 deg. S, mostly just so that the navigation software doesn't have to deal with the singularity. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.187|172.69.71.187]] 23:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 
Many airplanes actually have limitations written into their operating manuals that prohibit flying north of 89 deg. N or south of 89 deg. S, mostly just so that the navigation software doesn't have to deal with the singularity. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.187|172.69.71.187]] 23:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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:Alton Brown made a similar argument, but after experimenting, I strongly disagree. As with brownies, the cooking pattern is slightly different between having more edges and having a cupcake shape. In an edge piece, the edges and the corners are crisp while the center is gooey. Meanwhile, if cooked in a cupcake tin, while there might be more crispness, there is significantly less gooeyness. [[User:Cwallenpoole|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole|talk]]) 14:23, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 
:Alton Brown made a similar argument, but after experimenting, I strongly disagree. As with brownies, the cooking pattern is slightly different between having more edges and having a cupcake shape. In an edge piece, the edges and the corners are crisp while the center is gooey. Meanwhile, if cooked in a cupcake tin, while there might be more crispness, there is significantly less gooeyness. [[User:Cwallenpoole|Cwallenpoole]] ([[User talk:Cwallenpoole|talk]]) 14:23, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 
:If you cut the sheet into quarters or if the whole was round and cut with radial slices there won't be any center piece(s). And there are more, unusual cuts that could result in all edge pieces...[[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.165|172.70.34.165]] 14:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 
:If you cut the sheet into quarters or if the whole was round and cut with radial slices there won't be any center piece(s). And there are more, unusual cuts that could result in all edge pieces...[[Special:Contributions/172.70.34.165|172.70.34.165]] 14:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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:My take was that a normal cake was baked, frosted and cut (with both edge and center pieces), and only the edge pieces were delivered to Emily.
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::Only a cake baked in a fractal pan would be good enough for her!
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Any commentary on the fact that the middle panel shows 25 time zones?  [[User:Inca hoots|Inca hoots]] ([[User talk:Inca hoots|talk]]) 16:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
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this comic has the same number as the carrier pigeon RFC, 2549. maybe related? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.114.251|172.70.114.251]] 19:37, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Bumpf

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The cake being all edges is a reference to everything about her birth being an edge case. 172.70.110.227 03:41, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

It seems likely that the title of the comic is a related pun: her birthday is an edge case, and so she has an edge cake.162.158.106.221 04:22, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

So is Hairbun officially named Emily now, sort of like how all instances of Megan are Megan even though she's only called that once? I know all the names here are just placeholders of convenience, but even then I've never know what the rules for naming are. Captain Video (talk) 06:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Well, Megan is referred to multiple times in the xkcds as "Megan", while the one time Hairbun was called Emily, it referred to the real[citation needed] Emily Dickinson. So, probably not. bubblegum-talk|contribs 02:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Edge pieces on cake are often sought after because they hold more frosting, for cakes which are frosted while out of the pan. 172.70.134.23 06:37, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

I have an impression that Cueball is delighted by having only edge pieces, however some cakes edge pieces may be either sought for or avoided, depending on one's tastes. E.g. tarts have more crispy base cake content and less filling at the edges. One person may go for the filling, another for the crispy base. -- 162.158.102.11 09:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

So it seems the events in the comic happened on Apr 1., as the "last month" birthday could be either Feb 28. or 29. -- 162.158.102.11 09:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Remember, Emily can have her birthday whenever she wants, so the date this comic is set as is entirely arbitrary. 172.70.178.51 12:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Are there any particular existing arctic international flights that could have been the one Emily was born on? -- 256.256.256.256 15:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

There are a few possibities (at least pre-COVID, and obviously we'd be looking historically in this case anyway) as might be shown here. There's two possible (but neither definite) International Datelines on the comic diagram, in case they help orient which from/to directions might have been diverted further in or out of their own kinks in the flightpath to coincide with 90°N. 172.70.162.77 16:21, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Expanded copies of this comic have been appearing on other comics, so large that it fills the whole screen for me. Is anyone else having this problem? Sarah the Pie(yes, the food) (talk) 22:24, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Someone (check the Recent Changes page, if you want) has been vandalising a lot of things. Currently I see a picture of an amphibious avian creature on this article's top (if I still need to revert it myself, I will do, but I've seen others have already been reverting other recent vandalism, so I may not need to by the time I've checked again). This very clever individual is obiviously mentally superior to us all(!) the way they can edit wiki pages seemingly at will... Impressive, eh? At some point I'm sure we'll get back to normlal, however boring that may be. 172.70.90.67 23:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Not to be too pedantic but isn't rotation a FREQUENCY, not a SPEED? Skulker (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Depends on the context (and scale). The convention is usually speed for rotation (surface(distance/time) when it's relevant, angular(revolutions/time) otherwise) to avoid conflicts with wave frequency (which is independent of speed). Also they can be freely converted, though converting to and from surface speed requires an additional radius term. The exception is, if comparing periodicity, sometimes frequency is used when it has special relevance (Ex: resonance) -- 172.69.68.200 02:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Tempted to add a link in the Trivia section to the Wikipedia or Snopes pages on the SS Warrimoo, a ship that (reportedly) was on the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line at the stroke of midnight on January 1, 1900, with a number of interesting implications that follow. There's no way to prove that it actually happened, but it's fun to imagine and is somewhat similar to the premise of the comic. --mezimm 108.162.221.15 14:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

What convinces me that it's a post-constructed yarn, rather than a legitimate account of a plausible event, is that the 1899-1900 'specialness' is (numerically aside) significant only from a more modern viewpoint. The dominant view at the alleged time of the incident, was the 1-rooted changeover between Centuries (1801 through to the end of 1900, then 1901-2000 to follow), and only changed as the more classical form of education/opinion phased out of common use. It was either later contrived from whole cloth as a tall-tale (if done at the time, it would have been given a 1900/1901 timestamp) or gradually embroidered with all the extra coincidental boundary-crossings (spatial and temporal) well after the actual inspirational seed incident in order to make a better anecdote/shaggy-dog-story.... 172.70.86.12 15:33, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Okay... but it's fun to imagine... and is somewhat similar to the premise of the comic. And I'd say it's a good deal more plausible than the situation presented in the comic. --mezimm 108.162.221.43 16:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Many airplanes actually have limitations written into their operating manuals that prohibit flying north of 89 deg. N or south of 89 deg. S, mostly just so that the navigation software doesn't have to deal with the singularity. 172.69.71.187 23:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

bloody lazy engineers! 108.162.219.107 12:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Is it not possible that Emily's birth happened to occur at the same moment that the contract specified transfer of ownership? Additionally, is it not possible that the airplane took off from within UTC+13:00 or UTC+14:00 and that the moment of Emily's birth happened to occur in the brief one-or-two hour period in which it was March 1st at that airport, but February 28th in UTC-12:00? UTC-11:00 is inhabited, so it would be possible that ownership of an airplane that took off from within UTC+14:00 was transferred to a company based out of UTC-11:00 during the one-hour period that it was February 28th in UTC-11:00 and March 1st in UTC+14:00 and that, at that exact moment, it was passing over the North Pole. DL Draco Rex (talk)

Am I alone in thinking that babies don't get born instantaneously? I've never given birth myself but i'd always got the impression that it's a process and any attempt to pick a precise 'instant' is going to be somewhat arbitrary. This means that the plane will very probably have travelled through a variety of time zones any of which could be the 'real' time of birth. 172.70.85.155 05:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Time of birth is an arbitrary decision made by the midwives filling out forms in a hospital. The more unlikely point about that is that she'd be able to correlate the precise position of the plane at the exact time listed. 108.162.219.187 12:37, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Dickenson looks like a typo. Dickinson? 172.70.162.77 08:44, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Isn't an "all edge pieces cake" just a plate of cupcakes lol? Zman350x (talk) 06:46, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Only if you frosted all sides of it.172.70.114.3 12:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Alton Brown made a similar argument, but after experimenting, I strongly disagree. As with brownies, the cooking pattern is slightly different between having more edges and having a cupcake shape. In an edge piece, the edges and the corners are crisp while the center is gooey. Meanwhile, if cooked in a cupcake tin, while there might be more crispness, there is significantly less gooeyness. Cwallenpoole (talk) 14:23, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
If you cut the sheet into quarters or if the whole was round and cut with radial slices there won't be any center piece(s). And there are more, unusual cuts that could result in all edge pieces...172.70.34.165 14:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
My take was that a normal cake was baked, frosted and cut (with both edge and center pieces), and only the edge pieces were delivered to Emily.
Only a cake baked in a fractal pan would be good enough for her!

Any commentary on the fact that the middle panel shows 25 time zones? Inca hoots (talk) 16:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

this comic has the same number as the carrier pigeon RFC, 2549. maybe related? 172.70.114.251 19:37, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Bumpf