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==Explanation==
 
==Explanation==
This comic imagines which {{w|List of mathematical symbols|mathematical symbols}} would be good in a fight if they were made corporeal in two (or three) dimensions.  
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This comic imagines which {{w|List of mathematical symbols|mathematical symbols}} would be good in a fight if they were made corporeal in two (or three) dimensions. Generally, objects with longer reach and pointier ends wind up on the right ("more useful") side of the scale, and symbols with less reach and more curves tend towards the left ("less useful") side.  
Generally, objects with longer reach and pointier ends wound up on the right ("more useful") side of the scale, and symbols with less reach and more curves wound towards the left ("less useful") side. A straight line is farthest to the "more dangerous" side; however, the straight line does not appear to be any thicker or thinner, or pointier, than any of the other lines that would make it more "useful" (It should be noted that this chart seems to fall afoul of what {{w|Eliezer Yudkowsky}} (who also wrote HPMoR) calls the ''intent to kill'': that humans tend to define "winning a fight" and "useful" as causing some form of bodily harm on their opponent despite survival and purely defensive strategies being an equally valid goals.).
 
  
 
Below the chart, with the symbols listed in order of usefulness, eight characters wield eight of the symbols. See the [[#Table of symbols|table]] below for the meaning of each symbol.
 
Below the chart, with the symbols listed in order of usefulness, eight characters wield eight of the symbols. See the [[#Table of symbols|table]] below for the meaning of each symbol.
  
The comic invokes {{w|Surreal humour|surreal humor}} by suggesting that mathematical symbols could be handled as physical objects in the real world. Another component of the humor is the implication that it is useful to prepare to use mathematical symbols in a fight, even though mathematicians, who use mathematical symbols, usually do not conduct their debates violently (though some stories suggest that {{w|Hippasus}} was killed by his fellow Pythagoreans for his proof that irrational numbers exist), and even if they did, they wouldn't use large reproductions of their symbols as weapons.
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The comic invokes {{w|surreal humour}} by suggesting that mathematical symbols could be handled as physical objects in the real world. Another component of the humor is the implication that it is useful to prepare to use mathematical symbols in a fight, even though mathematicians, who use mathematical symbols, usually do not conduct their debates violently <ref>S. Lee and S. Miller,, ''Crystal Dragon'',(Baen, 2005), chapter eight</ref> (though some stories suggest that {{w|Hippasus}} was killed by his fellow Pythagoreans for his proof that irrational numbers exist), and even if they did, they wouldn't use large reproductions of their symbols as weapons.
  
The title text refers to a {{w|treble clef}}, which is not a mathematical symbol but rather a {{w|List of musical symbols|musical symbol}}. The note of concern in the text suggests musical symbols may be viewed in such fights as exotic or especially dangerous. See also the last entry in the table below.
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A straight line is farthest to the "more dangerous" side, which could possibly be a reference to the dangers posed by lines in "Flatland", because their infinitely-sharp endpoints could be difficult to see (particularly their rear end, which does not contain a gleaming eye as their front end does) and would fatally pierce whoever they chose to stab. However, taking a more literal view of the drawings, the straight line does not appear to be any thicker or thinner, or pointier, than any of the other lines.
  
Note that [[Black Hat]] and [[Danish]] are using two of the most useful symbols, and appear to have teamed up against their opponents, resulting in an unfair advantage they would both absolutely exploit.
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The title text refers to a {{w|Treble clef}}, which is not a mathematical symbol but rather a {{w|List of musical symbols|musical symbol}}. The note of concern in the text suggests musical symbols may be viewed in such fights as exotic or especially dangerous. See also the last entry in the table below.
  
 
==Table of symbols==
 
==Table of symbols==
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ℝ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ℝ</span>
|The set of {{w|real number}}s
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|The set of [[wikipedia:real number|real number]]s
|[[Megan]] seems to be struggling with a giant version of this symbol because of its weight. A very strong person might find it slightly more useful as a bludgeon.
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|[[Megan]] seems to be struggling with a giant version of this symbol.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  θ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  θ</span>
|{{w|Theta#Mathematics and science|Theta}}
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|[[wikipedia:Theta#Mathematics_and_science|Theta]]
 
|This symbol is not very sharp, and [[White Hat]] is unable to use it in combat. It would not work as a good shield due to the hole in the symbol, but it possibly could be thrown. (The later version of Xena's chakram had a bar in the middle.)
 
|This symbol is not very sharp, and [[White Hat]] is unable to use it in combat. It would not work as a good shield due to the hole in the symbol, but it possibly could be thrown. (The later version of Xena's chakram had a bar in the middle.)
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∅</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∅</span>
|{{w|Empty set}}
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|[[wikipedia:Empty set|Empty set]]
 
|Similarly shaped to theta, but identified as being slightly more useful, presumably because the parts of the bar that extend beyond the circle can be used as thrusting weapons. Alternatively, the round nature of the symbol makes it easier to handle for defense, by holding on to the line and using the edge of the circular part to block.
 
|Similarly shaped to theta, but identified as being slightly more useful, presumably because the parts of the bar that extend beyond the circle can be used as thrusting weapons. Alternatively, the round nature of the symbol makes it easier to handle for defense, by holding on to the line and using the edge of the circular part to block.
 
|-
 
|-
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∞</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∞</span>
|{{w|Infinity}}
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|infinity
 
|Could be gripped between the rings and used as a blunt instrument.
 
|Could be gripped between the rings and used as a blunt instrument.
 
|-
 
|-
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ></span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ></span>
|{{w|Inequality (mathematics)|Greater than}}
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|Greater than
|Could be used to thrust with the point, but lacks a grip by which to do so.  If held by one leg, the angle and balance is wrong to use it as a pick.  Could also be used as a {{w|boomerang}}.
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|Could be used to thrust with the point, but lacks a grip by which to do so.  If held by one leg, the angle and balance is wrong to use it as a pick.
 
|-
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∝</span>
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∝</span>
|{{w|Proportionality (mathematics)#Direct proportionality|Direct proportionality}} (not to be confused with lowercase {{w|Alpha#Mathematics and science|alpha}})
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|[[wikipedia:Proportionality_(mathematics)#Direct_proportionality|Direct Proportionality]] (not to be confused with lowercase {{w|Alpha#Mathematics and science|alpha}})
|Could be brandished by the ring and used to thrust with the prongs, but the two prongs extending at 90-degree angles make thrusting motions awkward.
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|Could be brandished by the ring and used to thrust with the prongs, but the two prongs extending at 90-degree angles make thrusting motions awkard.
 
|-
 
|-
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∪</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∪</span>
|{{w|Union (set theory)|Union}}
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|{{w|union (set theory)}}
 
|Could be used as a boomerang, which is {{tvtropes|PrecisionGuidedBoomerang|notoriously less practical in real life than in fiction}}
 
|Could be used as a boomerang, which is {{tvtropes|PrecisionGuidedBoomerang|notoriously less practical in real life than in fiction}}
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∈/ϵ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∈/ϵ</span>
|{{w|Element (mathematics)|Member of}} (set theory) or the "lunate" lowercase {{w|Epsilon#Symbol|epsilon}}
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|{{w|Element (mathematics)|member of}} (set theory) or the "lunate" lowercase {{w|Epsilon#Symbol|epsilon}}
|[[Cueball]] is holding this in the manner of a Klingon "{{w|Bat'leth}}" from the ''Star Trek'' franchise. The Bat'leth is [https://youtu.be/VsElSDXPgSA infamous] among swordfighters for being rather impractical, and that the Klingon warrior race would have been better suited using swords like humans. It seems that Randall agrees, as the ∈ is quite far on the left of the chart.
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|[[Cueball]] is holding this in the manner of a Klingon "{{w|Bat'leth}}" from the ''Star Trek'' franchise. The Bat'leth is [https://youtu.be/VsElSDXPgSA infamous] among swordfighters for being rather impractical, and that the Klingon warrior race would have been better suited using swords like humans. It seems Randall agrees, as the ∈ is quite far on the left of the chart.
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  π</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  π</span>
|{{w|Pi}}
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|[[wikipedia:Pi|pi]]
 
|Could be used as a hammer, but the two handles would make doing so impractical.
 
|Could be used as a hammer, but the two handles would make doing so impractical.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∀</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∀</span>
|"{{w|Universal quantification|For all}}"
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|"{{w|Universal quantification|for all}}"
 
|Could be held by the crossbar clenched in a fist, and then used as a {{w|push dagger}}, with the legs acting as a guard.  Or could be held by the legs.
 
|Could be held by the crossbar clenched in a fist, and then used as a {{w|push dagger}}, with the legs acting as a guard.  Or could be held by the legs.
Compared to the similar Δ (delta) the point is sharper, the grip is closer to the point so it would be easier to control (keep the weapon from twisting). It is unclear why it is listed as much less effective than the delta.  Perhaps the guard legs are too long?
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Compared to the similar Δ (delta) the point is sharper, the grip is closer to the point so it would be easier to control (keep the weapon from twisting). Unclear why it is listed as much less effective than the delta.  Perhaps the guard legs are too long?
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∂</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∂</span>
|{{w|Partial derivative}} or {{w|Boundary (topology)|boundary operator}}
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|{{w|∂}} ([[wikipedia:Partial derivative|partial derivative]] or [[wikipedia:Boundary_(topology)|boundary operator]])
 
|It's not clear why Randall ranks this symbol as so much less effective than the similarly-shaped 𝜌, but the curl in the "tail" of the ∂ would give it a shorter lever arm when swung and would disrupt the balance.
 
|It's not clear why Randall ranks this symbol as so much less effective than the similarly-shaped 𝜌, but the curl in the "tail" of the ∂ would give it a shorter lever arm when swung and would disrupt the balance.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  +</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  +</span>
|{{w|Plus and minus signs#Plus sign|Plus sign}}
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|[[wikipedia:Plus_and_minus_signs#Plus_sign|Plus]]
|Maybe thrown like a {{w|shuriken}}? It could also be used like {{w|Kylo Ren}}'s lightsaber.
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|Maybe thrown like a {{w|shuriken}}?
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  Ψ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  Ψ</span>
|{{w|Psi#Mathematics|Psi}}
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|[[wikipedia:Psi#Mathematics|Psi]]
|It could be used as a slightly-less-functional trident or pitchfork, with a shorter handle. More particularly, it resembles a {{w|Sai (weapon)|sai}} (which, funnily enough, is close to how "Psi" is pronounced).
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|It could be used as a slightly-less-functional trident or pitchfork, with a shorter handle. More particularly, it resembles a {{w|Sai (weapon)|sai}} (which, funnily enough, is how "Psi" is pronounced).
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ≠</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ≠</span>
|{{w|Inequation|Not equal to}}
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|not equal sign
 
|Could be gripped by the crossbar, using the lengths to puncture. Notably, the equal sign (=) is absent from the chart, likely because the lengths are separate and would not be used as a single entity.
 
|Could be gripped by the crossbar, using the lengths to puncture. Notably, the equal sign (=) is absent from the chart, likely because the lengths are separate and would not be used as a single entity.
 
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|-
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ~</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ~</span>
|{{w|Tilde#Mathematics|Tilde}}, meaning "approximately", equivalent, or several transforms of a function. Also used as {{w|Negation#Notation|negation in mathematical logic}} and, in various programming languages, to symbolize {{w|Bitwise operation#NOT|bitwise NOT}} (amongst {{w|Tilde#Computer languages|many, ''many'' other possible uses...}}).
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|[[wikipedia:Tilde#Mathematics|tilde]], meaning "approximately", equivalent, or several transforms of a function
 
|A potentially dangerous throwing weapon.  Could also be similar to a wavy bladed dagger ({{w|Kris}}) or a sword ({{w|Flame-bladed sword}}).
 
|A potentially dangerous throwing weapon.  Could also be similar to a wavy bladed dagger ({{w|Kris}}) or a sword ({{w|Flame-bladed sword}}).
 
|-
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  #</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  #</span>
|{{w|Cardinality}}, {{w|connected sum}} (knot theory), or {{w|primorial}}.
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|[[wikipedia:Cardinality|Cardinality]], [[wikipedia:Connected_sum|connected sum]] (knot theory), or [[wikipedia:Primorial|primorial]].
 
|[[Blondie]] uses this symbol, gripping it by two of the prongs on one side. The other three prongs could thus be swung at opponents, but being sharp on all sides would pose a threat to the user as well as the opponent.
 
|[[Blondie]] uses this symbol, gripping it by two of the prongs on one side. The other three prongs could thus be swung at opponents, but being sharp on all sides would pose a threat to the user as well as the opponent.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  Δ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  Δ</span>
|{{w|Delta (letter)|Delta}}
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|[[wikipedia:Delta_(letter)|Delta]]
|Could be held with one bar clenched in a fist, and then used as a {{w|push dagger}}.  It is unclear why listed as much more effective than ∀.  Also, delta could be thrown like a star.
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|Could be held with one bar clenched in a fist, and then used as a {{w|push dagger}}.  Unclear why listed as much more effective than ∀.  Also, delta could be thrown like a star.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⇒</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⇒</span>
|{{w|Material conditional|Material consequence}} or {{w|logical consequence}}, meaning "implies"
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|[[wikipedia:Material_conditional|Material consequence]] or [[wikipedia:Logical_consequence|Logical consequence]], meaning "implies"
 
|The point is nice, but having two poles (or one board-like thick handle, if the shape is drawn "closed" at the back) would be difficult to wield.  A collection of them might make a nice defensive pike line.
 
|The point is nice, but having two poles (or one board-like thick handle, if the shape is drawn "closed" at the back) would be difficult to wield.  A collection of them might make a nice defensive pike line.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⋅</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⋅</span>
|{{w|Decimal separator|Decimal point}} or {{w|multiplication sign}}
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|multiplication sign
 
|Functionally a ball, and could therefore be thrown as a projectile weapon, or scattered on the ground as a trip hazard.
 
|Functionally a ball, and could therefore be thrown as a projectile weapon, or scattered on the ground as a trip hazard.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ℵ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ℵ</span>
|{{w|Aleph number}}
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|[[wikipedia:Aleph_number|Aleph number]]
 
|The irregular shape of the symbol leads to edges and points on all sides; thus it could be brandished or thrown in the manner of a shuriken.
 
|The irregular shape of the symbol leads to edges and points on all sides; thus it could be brandished or thrown in the manner of a shuriken.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  Γ</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  Γ</span>
|Uppercase Greek letter {{w|Gamma#Uppercase|gamma}}
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|uppercase Greek letter {{w|Gamma#Uppercase|Gamma}}
 
|If this letter is formed with {{w|serif}}s, it could be used as an axe or hook, and if it is made {{w|sans-serif}}, it would make a powerful pick or war hammer.
 
|If this letter is formed with {{w|serif}}s, it could be used as an axe or hook, and if it is made {{w|sans-serif}}, it would make a powerful pick or war hammer.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  √</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  √</span>
|{{w|Radical symbol}}
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|{{w|radix}} sign
|Randall has drawn this sign with a long overbar, which makes it useful like a {{w|Pole weapon|pole arm}}.  [[Black Hat]] has chosen this symbol in his fight against [[Hairy]].
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|Randall has drawn this sign with a long overbar, which makes it useful like a {{w|Pole weapon|pole arm}}.  [[Black Hat]] has chosen this symbol in his fight against [[Hairy]]
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ''ρ''</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ''ρ''</span>
|{{w|Prime_constant|Italic rho}}
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|{{w|Prime_constant|italic rho}}
 
|[[Ponytail]] is brandishing this symbol against [[Danish]], apparently using it like a club or hammer and striking with the curve.
 
|[[Ponytail]] is brandishing this symbol against [[Danish]], apparently using it like a club or hammer and striking with the curve.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∮</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∮</span>
|{{w|Contour integral}}
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|{{w|contour integral}}
 
|This symbol is drawn with a very tight center, giving it an almost identical figure to the regular integral symbol. Presumably, the added bulk for marginal additional use earns it a rating of 'less effective'.
 
|This symbol is drawn with a very tight center, giving it an almost identical figure to the regular integral symbol. Presumably, the added bulk for marginal additional use earns it a rating of 'less effective'.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∫</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ∫</span>
|{{w|Integral}}
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|{{w|integral}}
 
|Could be used in the manner of a shepherd's crook, or as a {{w|Bill (weapon)|billhook}}.  Could be used as a {{w|spear thrower}}, combined with ⋅ or ⇀.
 
|Could be used in the manner of a shepherd's crook, or as a {{w|Bill (weapon)|billhook}}.  Could be used as a {{w|spear thrower}}, combined with ⋅ or ⇀.
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  →</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  →</span>
 
|Implies; X→Y means that if X is true, then Y is also true
 
|Implies; X→Y means that if X is true, then Y is also true
|[[Danish]] is brandishing this symbol against Ponytail, apparently using it like a spear.
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|[[Danish]] is brandishing this symbol against Ponytail, apparently using it like a spear or other polearm.
 
|-
 
|-
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⊥</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⊥</span>
|{{w|Up tack}} or falsum, indicating a false proposition in logic, perpendicular lines in geometry, or the bottom element in a partial order
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|{{w|up tack}} or falsum, indicating a false proposition in logic, perpendicular lines in geometry, or the bottom element in a partial order
|Used as a {{w|war hammer}} (held by the long stem) so the opponent would be struck with either leg of the top of the T. Held by the short legs (like a wishbone), could be used as a two handed sword.
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|Used as a {{w|war hammer}} (held by the long stem), the opponent would be struck with either leg of the top of the T. Held by the short legs (like a wishbone), could be used as a two handed sword.
 
(If tipped with a knapped stone head, it could become a {{w|Folsom point|falsum point}}.)
 
(If tipped with a knapped stone head, it could become a {{w|Folsom point|falsum point}}.)
 
|-
 
|-
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⇀</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ⇀</span>
 
|{{w|Vector notation}}
 
|{{w|Vector notation}}
|Could be used as a single-barbed spear or, if held by the other end, similarly to a sabre. The multi-functionality is probably why it is listed as more useful than the 'implies' arrow.
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|Could be used as a single-barbed spear. It is unclear why this is listed as more useful than the 'implies' arrow.
 
|-
 
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|<span style="font-size:150%">  ––</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:150%">  ––</span>
|{{w|Fraction#Vocabulary|Fraction bar}} (division) or {{w|Overline#Math_and_science|overline}} (complex conjugate or mean) or {{w|Plus and minus signs#Minus sign|minus sign}}.
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|{{w|Fraction#Vocabulary|Fraction bar}} (division) or {{w|Overline#Math_and_science|overline}} (complex conjugate or mean).
|[[Hairy]] is brandishing this symbol against Black Hat. The single shaft would allow it to be used in the manner of a {{w|quarterstaff}}, {{w|bō}}, or other {{w|stick-fighting}} weapon.  Of the symbols shown in the comic, Randall considers this one the most useful in a fight, presumably because of its greater reach than the vector arrow and its simplicity compared to the radix root symbol. Alternatively, could be handled like a pike, with a reach greater than that of an implication or vector arrow.
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|[[Hairy]] is brandishing this symbol against Black Hat. The single shaft would allow it to be used in the manner of a {{w|quarterstaff}}, {{w|bō}}, or other {{w|stick-fighting}} weapon.  Of the symbols shown in the comic, Randall considers this one the most useful in a fight, presumably because of its greater reach than the vector arrow and its simplicity compared to the radix root symbol.
 
|-
 
|-
 
|<span style="font-size:200%">  𝄞</span>
 
|<span style="font-size:200%">  𝄞</span>
|{{w|Treble clef}} (title text)
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|{{w|Treble clef}}
 
|Mentioned in the title text; this is not a mathematical symbol, but a musical symbol. The treble clef is a much more complicated symbol than those used in mathematics, hence the musician's "confidence" in his weapon. The curve at the bottom could be used as a hook, the upper curl could be used as a blunt weapon, and the tight curl of the center would serve as a better defensive shield than theta.
 
|Mentioned in the title text; this is not a mathematical symbol, but a musical symbol. The treble clef is a much more complicated symbol than those used in mathematics, hence the musician's "confidence" in his weapon. The curve at the bottom could be used as a hook, the upper curl could be used as a blunt weapon, and the tight curl of the center would serve as a better defensive shield than theta.
 
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==Notes==
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==Transcript==
 
==Transcript==
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:[Below the double arrow line are eight characters that fight each other in groups of two by  using some of the symbols shown above them as weapons. They have chosen symbols that are almost above them in the chart.]
 
:[Below the double arrow line are eight characters that fight each other in groups of two by  using some of the symbols shown above them as weapons. They have chosen symbols that are almost above them in the chart.]
:[Megan is awkwardly handling a giant "ℝ" holding it up against White Hat who is holding a "θ" (or "∅"?) with both hands, as a shield.]
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:[Megan is awkwardly handling a giant "ℝ" holding it up against White Hat who is holding a "θ" with both hands, as a shield.]
 
:[Cueball is holding an "∈" in both hands, with its "tines" pointed towards Blondie, who is swatting at him with a "#".]
 
:[Cueball is holding an "∈" in both hands, with its "tines" pointed towards Blondie, who is swatting at him with a "#".]
 
:[Ponytail is leaping at Danish, swinging a "''ρ''" like an axe, while Danish is leaning back and thrusting a "→" back at her.]
 
:[Ponytail is leaping at Danish, swinging a "''ρ''" like an axe, while Danish is leaning back and thrusting a "→" back at her.]

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