Editing Talk:1150: Instagram

Randall completely ignores the fact that "Chad" offered to store people's stuff for free and with no problems.  That's how "Chad" ended up with a garage full of stuff.  That's why the sudden notice that "Chad" was going to sell the stuff upset all those people.  The hover text neglects to mention whether or not the people across the street are also offering to store people's stuff for free.[[Special:Contributions/96.233.16.30|96.233.16.30]] 10:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

: As well as the difference between leaving a clearly worded (though still rather jerk-y) note and slipping unclear language into the already bloated Terms of Service. [[User:Jerodast|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast|talk]]) 11:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:The fact of the matter is, he may be storing the stuff for free, but there's nothing to say that there are "no problems" involved. Effectively, once it's in Chad's house, he owns it. In any case, there's nothing to stop Cueball from not giving Chad any more stuff, or taking his stuff back from the garage. Of course, I understand it's not going to be as easy taking stuff off Instagram, but there you go. --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 14:17, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Please note that a lot of people thought the new ToS allowed Instagram to sell their pictures but this is a misunderstanding of these ToS. This explanation should be slightly reworded in that sense. See [http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/12/18/instagram_privacy_uproar_why_it_s_absurd_in_three_nearly_identical_sentences.html this].{{unsigned|82.235.150.60}}

Great explanation, but what is meant by "to sell user-uploaded images without profit"? Sell sth without profit sounds like a paradox... – [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 14:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:The explanation says/means "without profit to the content generators" - i.e. the people who are uploading the images (content) to Instagram. I'm sure Instagram would be making a profit selling the images...just not the original uploaders --[[User:Dangerkeith3000|Dangerkeith3000]] ([[User talk:Dangerkeith3000|talk]]) 15:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with the second paragraph of the explanation. Cueball / content generators didn't "give" their stuff/photos, they merely accepted the offer of free storage. The terms and conditions of the agreement have been changed to benefit Chad/Instagram. There's no such thing as a free lunch...

:Read the fourth panel again. --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 02:03, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
::The use of the word "giving " does not imply transference of ownership. The joke lies in the fact that there is no contract for storage facilities due to the absence of consideration.
:::But now it does have legal value, due to Instagram's terms of service. The slate.com link above sheds good light on this phenomenon. --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 19:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
::::No, a legal agreement comes from common consent and the exchange of considerations. In reality, Instagram was forced in to a retraction because it failed to establish either and users complained +/- left. {{unsigned|188.29.96.27}}

The "Explanation" above starts with the assertion that this comic makes sense by itself.  No, it's crazy without the context provided by the title.  The point of the comic is the unrealistic expectations that Instagram's users have. {{unsigned|174.125.139.140}}

:I was not aware of the Instagram back story and without understanding the title of this comic or how any of this pertained to Instagram I was still able to understand and appreciate the joke.--Matt

:I thought the comic was sort of funny when I first read it, but when I saw the title everything really clicked. I wrote "the comic makes sense by itself" because it did to me before I noticed the word "Instagram." [[Special:Contributions/108.233.253.211|108.233.253.211]] 22:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


Another slight difference is that when Chad sells Cueball's stuff, Cueball can't use it anymore. If Instagram sells its users' photos, they can still use them. If the users try to sell them though, they probably will make less money if Instagram sells them for less. [[User:Bugefun|Bugefun]] ([[User talk:Bugefun|talk]]) 05:39, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

:Another difference is that Cueball can actually get the stuff back from Chad. Instagram users can't - I mean, they can't be sure Instagram is not keeping copy. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 09:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

My question is more mundane and editorial: how do we decide, in comics like these, who Cueball is?  The "official transcript" merely has "Man #1" and "Man #2".  Cueball's usually pretty sensible (or, at least, usually not ''completely'' unreasonable), so who's to say a reasonable mapping here wouldn't be Cueball calmly typing at the computer, and "Friend" flaming about Chad's changing policies? —[[User:Scs|Scs]] ([[User talk:Scs|talk]]) 03:59, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
:I agree completely. Although Cueball can be a real idiot in some comics (where there are only one), and the only sensible in comics where there are more than one. So when there are more than one Cueball, then Cueball category should be added, but neither of those present should be labeled Cueball in the transcript or the explain. I have adopted the name ''The Dude'' from the note from Chad, and then the other Cueball is the friend. This I have corrected in the transcript, and then I have added much more to the explain, calling the two The Dude and the friend. I have done similarly in other comics with more than one Cueball. It is important to remember that it is only the readers of the comic who calls him Cueball. Randall never do, and thus we cannot consider Cueball to have any specific way of behaving. Other characters like Black Hat is more clearly defined, but then again even Black Hat behaves very differently from comic to comic. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
:'The Dude' does NOT abide with this! {{unsigned ip|108.162.250.223}}
::I now agree. After having been through more of these comics I think at least one of them should be Cueball. And the official transcript never uses the name Cueball, which is an invention of explain xkcd. To me Cueball is mainly the one with the main plot point/protagonist, and this is the one that has things at Chad. I really disliked my own edit with "The Dude" when I read it today, and was horrified when realizing I was about to mend my own bad edit ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 17:37, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

This Friend sounds like Beret Guy... [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.222|141.101.98.222]] 20:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
:It's a pity you didn't think to elaborate. -Pennpenn [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.162|108.162.250.162]] 03:28, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Just wanted to add that "Chad" is a commonly used name for an unprincipled or irresponsible male person in some areas of internet culture, memes, red-pill/blue-pill discussions. The female equivalent would be a Stacey and the opposite would be Good Guy Greg perhaps. [[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]])
: I think this comic was released before those terms really became a 'thing' AFAIK. I first saw those terms floating around boards in '17. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.2.125|162.158.2.125]] 10:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)