Editing Talk:1265: Juicer

Please delete the explanation that '{{w|ghoti}}' can be pronounced 'fish'. Sorry, I meant that 'Gushers' can be pronounced 'juicers'. [[User:Xhfz|Xhfz]] ([[User talk:Xhfz|talk]]) 12:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:I agree, but maybe we should move it into a trivia section at the bottom. The sentence "There are several possible readings of this comic:" and the headlines should also be removed. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:13, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

::I don't see any merit to the "Jushers" line - it doesn't deal with the "sh" in the word, nor does it really seem to fit the text of the comment. I don't mind the two remaining alternative explanations though. My reading was the first version that the person is juicing the Gushers (the rind being a mocking reference, as indicated, to the candy's gummy shell). While I don't think Randall was going for the second alternative that the person is saying "I juice" which implys drinking the juice, but instead it's just collected. I have no doubt that if this was the intention, Randall would have drawn an insanely large number of bottles to truely demonstrate constant juicing with no drinking, and have Cueball actually present in the frame eating the candy. That said, it's an interesting and plausible alternative that I think is fair to stay. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 13:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:::The bright red and blue juice in the containers points to the source being gushers. [[Special:Contributions/96.251.85.48|96.251.85.48]] 16:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:Quote main page: "Don't be a jerk. There are a lot of comics that don't have set in stone explanations; feel free to put multiple interpretations in the wiki page for each comic." '''[[User:Davidy22|<u>{{Color|#707|David}}<font color=#070 size=3>y</font></u><font color=#508 size=4>²²</font>]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 03:58, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:I like it, especially the parts about the frequencies of certain letter/phoneme sequences. But then again I'm a language nerd. [[Special:Contributions/65.94.50.53|65.94.50.53]] 23:10, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

The heinous Batterwitch has her gnarled claws in everything! [[Special:Contributions/209.122.160.124|209.122.160.124]] 14:45, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:+1 for the homestuck reference, but let's try to keep it on topic please. --[[Special:Contributions/142.25.33.249|142.25.33.249]] 17:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC)


The three bottles are obviously a reflection of the fact that there were more reds than blues in the Gushers candy packs.   The final explanation reads a little contrived to anyone who ever ate the candy.  The Gushers=Juicers argument makes sense from what I can tell as a multilingual. 
[[Special:Contributions/216.201.206.118|216.201.206.118]] 18:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)


Moved from explanation:
;Hard '''g''' / soft '''g'''<!-- someone bolder than me should delete this absurd explanation-->
If English is not your native language (which is not the case of [[Randall]]), you could think that "Gushers" /ˈgʌʃərz/ is pronounced as "juicers" /ˈdʒusərz/. I.e., if you know nothing about English spelling you could think that both words are pronounced /ˈdʒuʃərz/.
*A 'g' can signify a soft-g sound (/dʒ/ as in 'gin'). However, natives know that the soft-g sound never appears in the combination "gu".
*A 'u' can signify a {{w|Close_back_rounded_vowel|close back rounded vowel}}, /u/ as in 'flute'. 
*The letter 'c' can be pronounced /ʃ/ as in  'ocean' /ˈoʊʃən/. The pronunciation of 'cer' as /ʃər/ is not common, except in dialectical words like "[http://dialect.redlog.net/staticmaps/q_36.html grocery"].
:->My opinion is that we can mention it can sound very similar if spelled by non native English speakers. That's all.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Moved from explanation:
;Juicer Juice Drinkers ⊂ Juicer Owners
Many people buy juicers (and exercise equipment) with the notion that the bought items will make them healthier. This comic shows a juicer with three full bottles of juice, indicating that the owner of the juice machine is making healthy juice with the intention of drinking it, but not consuming juice at the rate it is produced. The comic also shows a Fruit Gusher snack, indicating the unhealthy option that the juicer owner just can't stop eating.
:->I have many ideas like this, the plastic bottles could been made of poisonous material, the juicer is broken and the bottles are bought in a supermarket,... Come on, this makes really no sense.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
::I think the juicer is being used to juice the gushers. --[[Special:Contributions/142.25.33.249|142.25.33.249]] 15:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I just saw this is in the explanation already. Yeah, this section doesn't make sense and should definitely have been removed. --[[Special:Contributions/142.25.33.249|142.25.33.249]] 15:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:The juice is [http://www.merigoesround.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/betty_crocker_gushers.jpg the same color as gushers].  Note the same color on the box and in the bottle.  Given how much Randall avoids color, it seems clear the narrator is making gusher juice.  Definitely think this explanation should be removed, it seems to miss the joke entirely. [[Special:Contributions/207.168.168.90|207.168.168.90]] 20:52, 17 September 2013 (UTC)


The idea given in the Talk area that the skin of an apple is where "most of the vitamins are" is a fallacy and should be corrected.  The skin of the apple does contain more antioxidants, and has the fiber of the fruit, but the majority of the vitamins in that fruit are, indeed, in the "meat" of the apple.  The title text in this comic is a sarcastic remark about how people tend to argue that the least-appealing part of something has the majority of the "goodness." (After all, it says that it's where "all" the vitamins are.) While partly true in many cases (rice, for example), it is almost never true of fruit regarding the vitamins, which is what the title text is about.  (And when you think about it, who eats the rinds of oranges, lemons, mangoes, bananas, kiwis, or coconuts?)[[Special:Contributions/152.119.255.250|152.119.255.250]] 20:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

:Aren't most vitamins antioxidants? The {{w|Antioxidant}} page lists vitamines A, C and E as examples. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 09:14, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

:: Some vitamins are antioxidants, but it doesn't change the fact that the comic's title text says, "all the vitamins."  That is untrue in every fruit and is made more so by the fact that he says "rind," which is a word usually reserved for the thicker, bitter outer shell of fruit like oranges, bananas, etc. [[Special:Contributions/152.119.255.250|152.119.255.250]] 18:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

There is a growing body of evidence that suggests that not only do antioxidants not benefit your health, in suppressing free radicals they may actually shorten your lifespan. A study of mice in which antioxidant production was suppressed in half the population and normal in the other half found that the suppressed group live as long or slightly longer than the other group.

;Clean up needed
Some articles running into chaos, people looking at an explain like this and just say Tl;dr (Too long, don't read), I don't like this massive adds to the explain section for a really simple comic. Enter statements to the explain section when it does explain the comic. Random people looking at this site are just annoyed, many statements are just individual expresses. not helpful for an explain.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 23:27, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
:I must agree.  Gusher is a simple word and the pronunciation is not in doubt.  It is also the name of the product, and the correct pronunciation is used in commercials for the product. Nobody who needs to know how to pronounce it would be able to comprehend one percent of the guide provided in the explanation. Just...useless.   [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 21:52, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
::I deleted the section that said that ''Gushers'' and ''juicers'' can both be mispronounced as ''jooshers''. A double mistake made by non-native speakers who haven't studied English doesn't need to be mentioned. [[User:Xhfz|Xhfz]] ([[User talk:Xhfz|talk]]) 22:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

"There is a simple rule: If your thumbnail can reach the flesh of a fruit don't remove the skin." -- I guess you could say it's a... RULE OF THUMB WAHAHAHA [[Special:Contributions/87.189.150.74|87.189.150.74]] 22:33, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I think the "if pesticide has been sprayed on it" part should be removed. Pesticides don't reside just on the surface of the fruit; they reside inside it. Ever seen that demonstration where you grow a plant using water dyed with food colouring? The colour gets drawn into the plant along with the water. The same thing happens with pesticide. Note: this doesn't mean you shouldn't wash your fruits; there's a lot of other stuff - like dirt - on the skin. [[User:Diszy|Diszy]] ([[User talk:Diszy|talk]]) 06:26, 26 July 2014 (UTC)