Editing Talk:1488: Flowcharts

A little bit more of 730? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.80.108|141.101.80.108]] 06:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
:More along the lines of 94, 210, 518, 627, 844, 845, and 1195, though I see similarities with 730. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 07:09, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
How should we do the transcript? [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 07:09, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

   You could do the transcript as a number list formatted like: "[Title of item] IF YES(GOTO X), IF NO(GOTO Y)" (where "X" and "Y" are the numbers on the list for the corresponding next option). Derek [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.107|108.162.216.107]] 13:25, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I would just like to say that I find some of the linked spiral-images ''very'' disturbing. Although for some they'd be the same even ''without'' the spirals, admitedly. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.188|141.101.98.188]] 09:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I believe this will end up being one of the most challenging explanations yet (of those that are completely explicable) - got quite a task up ahead... -- [[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 10:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Normally (for a flowchart) the Start symbol should not have an input. The electrical circuit is not a rectifier! Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.103|108.162.254.103]] 10:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
:In the newly corrected version, it is. [[User:Knob creek|Knob creek]] ([[User talk:Knob creek|talk]]) 16:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

OCD comment: There appear to be two lines missing, 1) from scatter plots to data or axis, 2) from the bottom of positive or negative DC terminal to the negative terminal of the battery.  Also, I would be happier if the two left hand diodes of the full wave rectifier were reversed. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.95}}

:Scatter plots don't have lines, that's the joke. {{unsigned ip|199.27.133.71}}

Either I was really tired this morning, or the spiral was not actually present in the first version of this comic.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.98|108.162.254.98]] 13:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

It seems like the options for the "Do you like flowcharts?" box should be reversed (only putting someone through the flowchart if they say they like flowcharts). I think it makes less sense to have the first option "annoy" someone with a flowchart option until they say they don't like flowcharts, then put them through a flowchart. Derek [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.107|108.162.216.107]] 13:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I see no evidence that the "time or your happiness" box is asking you to "choose whichever you value more". The graph shows your happiness as a function of time, not "your time" (it's not as if you were asked to choose between, say, more happiness or more spare time for yourself). I think it is just asking you to choose which axis of the graph you want to follow. The flowchart for the line graph and the scatter plot are similar; since "X or Y" is not interpreted as a question about value, why should "time or your happiness" be?
 Zetfr 14:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

The comment on the Fibonacci and Golden Spirals being the same is not correct.  According to Wikipedia{{w|Golden_Spiral|[1]}}{{w|Fibonacci_number|[2]}}: "A Fibonacci spiral '''approximates''' the golden spiral using quarter-circle arcs inscribed in squares of integer Fibonacci-number side." - [[User:Prometheusmmiv|Prometheusmmiv]] ([[User talk:Prometheusmmiv|talk]]) 14:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Randall has uploaded a new version, it fixes some missing lines: The scatter graph is now connected, as is the DC terminal, and the battery is now in a circuit. Some of the explaination above needs updating [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.47|141.101.99.47]] 15:32, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Clicking on the image takes you to http://xkcd.com/spiral/ {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.149}}
:Good catch about  http://xkcd.com/spiral/ ! --[[User:Guest|Guest]] ([[User talk:Guest|talk]]) 17:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

'''NOTE''' this comic has been changed, oddly. http://xkcd.com/1488/ [[User:Halfhat|Halfhat]] ([[User talk:Halfhat|talk]]) 18:21, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

How do we change this wiki to have the updated image?  The XKCD site is updated, but this page still shows the old image. [[User:Djbrasier|Djbrasier]] ([[User talk:Djbrasier|talk]]) 18:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
:I have uploaded the correct version now. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
:: The image is still out of date as it lacks the Yes / Never! markings on the Path of Least Resistance decision box. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.174|173.245.54.174]] 21:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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 Normally (for a flowchart) the Start symbol should not have an input. The electrical circuit is not a rectifier! Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.103|108.162.254.103]] 10:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 :In the newly corrected version, it is. [[User:Knob creek|Knob creek]] ([[User talk:Knob creek|talk]]) 16:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
-::But it doesn't need to be, since the rectification is done by the flow chart. Two of the diodes will never be used. (Is it still a rectifier if it's not rectifying?) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.182|108.162.249.182]] 21:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
-:::Yes it's still a rectifier. It just appears to be out of a job, that's all. Anyone else notice that the bridge rectifier IS a flowchart? The two decision trees feeding it are completely unnecessary. Getting rid of them gives the rectifier back it's job! Also, to give Randall a break, the original diagram of the bridge is actually a ring modulator. It's been decades since I've been in RF so I had to track it down and confirm.[[User:ExternalMonolog|ExternalMonolog]] ([[User talk:ExternalMonolog|talk]]) 23:24, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 OCD comment: There appear to be two lines missing, 1) from scatter plots to data or axis, 2) from the bottom of positive or negative DC terminal to the negative terminal of the battery.  Also, I would be happier if the two left hand diodes of the full wave rectifier were reversed. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.95}}
 :Scatter plots don't have lines, that's the joke. {{unsigned ip|199.27.133.71}}
-::It wasn't a joke; in the corrected version the lines are there. I suspect Randall uploaded a work-in-progress version of the comic by mistake. {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.245}}
 Either I was really tired this morning, or the spiral was not actually present in the first version of this comic.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.98|108.162.254.98]] 13:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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 The comment on the Fibonacci and Golden Spirals being the same is not correct.  According to Wikipedia{{w|Golden_Spiral|[1]}}{{w|Fibonacci_number|[2]}}: "A Fibonacci spiral '''approximates''' the golden spiral using quarter-circle arcs inscribed in squares of integer Fibonacci-number side." - [[User:Prometheusmmiv|Prometheusmmiv]] ([[User talk:Prometheusmmiv|talk]]) 14:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
-:The title text says "if you overlay a Fibonacci spiral on a golden spiral it matches up '''almost''' perfectly." {{unsigned|Grabadora304}}
 Randall has uploaded a new version, it fixes some missing lines: The scatter graph is now connected, as is the DC terminal, and the battery is now in a circuit. Some of the explaination above needs updating [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.47|141.101.99.47]] 15:32, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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 :I have uploaded the correct version now. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 19:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 :: The image is still out of date as it lacks the Yes / Never! markings on the Path of Least Resistance decision box. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.174|173.245.54.174]] 21:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
-Is it a coincidence that a Fibonacci sequence has a link to the golden ratio? I think not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTWKKvlZB08 [[User:SirKitKat|sirKitKat]] ([[User talk:SirKitKat|talk]]) 21:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
-Wow - I tried the random button once and got to this comic: [[1359: Phone Alarm]]. For a second I thought he had rigged it - but that is was not the case. But that was not getting to something else ;-) [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:19, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
-:I got [[518]] and started laughing all over again.  He really should rig the random button on this page to point to only flowchart comics.  He has enough of them: [[94]], [[210]], [[518]], [[844]], [[851]], [[854]], [[1066]], [[1195]], [[1359]]. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.98|108.162.216.98]] 15:20, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
-::Thanks, you found one that wasn't in Category:Flowcharts. Fixed it. [[User:gijobarts|gijobarts]] ([[User Talk:gijobarts|talk]]) 21:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
-:I only got [[1100: Vows]]. The comic was posted yesterday, though. Is it possible that he rigged it, but only for yesterday? [[User:gijobarts|gijobarts]] ([[User Talk:gijobarts|talk]]) 21:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
-There is a new corrected version. The current one has a "Line or Axis" diamond in the topmost line, instead of "Data or Axis". {{unsigned ip|141.101.102.217}}
-Why Randall use form “are you A/C or D/C”, not “It [battery] is” or maybe “are you on A/C or D/C”? This refer to the typical (not-so-intellectual) quiz/flowcharts propagated in the Internet? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.195|141.101.105.195]] 10:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
-:I took it as a reference to "Are you a Mac or a PC?" (not sure if this is a thing...). [[Special:Contributions/188.114.99.189|188.114.99.189]] 04:07, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
-I think the "yes" path of "Do you like flowcharts?" is a recursive reference to the flowchart itself (just like other "Do you like ~"? nodes which refer to the respective graphs when the reader follows the "yes" path), not (just) for annoying the readers following it. --[[User:Luke1337|Luke1337]] ([[User talk:Luke1337|talk]]) 01:55, 2 July 2016 (UTC)