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The character I'm missing in the title is [http://unicode-table.com/en/0FD0/ Tibetan Mark Bska- Shog Gi Mgo Rgyan U+0FD0] [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.129|108.162.216.129]] 06:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
The character I'm missing in the title is [http://unicode-table.com/en/0FD0/ Tibetan Mark Bska- Shog Gi Mgo Rgyan U+0FD0] [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.129|108.162.216.129]] 06:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
  
Description seems heavily referential, without a clear or concise description of the mechanisms involved.  Surely there is a psychological concept associated with this, rather than "that one scat jazz song" [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.166|108.162.219.166]] 06:40, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
:I think so too.  See *lyric deafness* below. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.133.66|172.68.133.66]] 17:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
I feel like Randall is talking about all songs in this comic, not just ones where the singer favours "emotion, accent or style over clear pronunciation of the lyrics". I mean, has anyone ever listened to a song and immediately understood every single lyric on the first listen? I think that's the issue Randall is trying to express. [[User:Enchantedsleeper|Enchantedsleeper]] ([[User talk:Enchantedsleeper|talk]]) 14:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
;Unicode
 
 
And the second Box is a Mathematical Script small I (U+1D4BE)
 
And the second Box is a Mathematical Script small I (U+1D4BE)
 
And the First Box is a Mathematical Fraktur small S (U+1D530)
 
And the First Box is a Mathematical Fraktur small S (U+1D530)
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:"...but it's hard to read and I can't focus"? [[User:Gearoid|Gearóid]] ([[User talk:Gearoid|talk]]) 07:48, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:"...but it's hard to read and I can't focus"? [[User:Gearoid|Gearóid]] ([[User talk:Gearoid|talk]]) 07:48, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
  
;Misheard Lyrics
 
 
Folks. I offer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI1hGShVdBA as the latest example of the genre. "I rub a Mexican loki" -> "I'm up all night to get lucky". [[User:Gearoid|Gearóid]] ([[User talk:Gearoid|talk]]) 07:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
Folks. I offer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI1hGShVdBA as the latest example of the genre. "I rub a Mexican loki" -> "I'm up all night to get lucky". [[User:Gearoid|Gearóid]] ([[User talk:Gearoid|talk]]) 07:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
  
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I only have that after looking up the lyrics. (non-native english speaker). I think I somewhat agree with you. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.67|141.101.104.67]] 15:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
I only have that after looking up the lyrics. (non-native english speaker). I think I somewhat agree with you. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.67|141.101.104.67]] 15:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
  
I have a theory that the producers add lyrics to the songs so that they can be easily looked up (I hear song => don't know what it is => look up lyrics => figure out what the song it was), yet it is hard to understand clearly so it wouldn't detract from the music. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.97.231|141.101.97.231]] 22:20, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 
  
 
;Attempt at translating
 
;Attempt at translating
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:or
 
:or
 
::I can't even help her
 
::I can't even help her
:or
 
::I can't f-en please her ("plussee th-er")
 
 
  
 
:ANDT⊕NG fHE WCAN NAp.  
 
:ANDT⊕NG fHE WCAN NAp.  
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:or
 
:or
 
::Anything she wants ta (to?)
 
::Anything she wants ta (to?)
:or
 
::Anything she wants can have (wa' can 'haf)
 
 
  
 
:HADBE AūτlfA!NNNG∩RKILL...  
 
:HADBE AūτlfA!NNNG∩RKILL...  
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:or
 
:or
 
:: Had to be outstanding girl  
 
:: Had to be outstanding girl  
 
:::I'm pretty certain that what looks like a "K" is just the right half of the "R" in "OR," making it "I'LL" or "ILL" and not "KILL" [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.161|108.162.219.161]] 02:26, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
  
 
:FOR♡ITiNnaAGL♡OOO!VEEE ?-
 
:FOR♡ITiNnaAGL♡OOO!VEEE ?-
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The structure of the lyrics (four lines of equal length) suggests the standard A/B/A/B rhyme scheme, which could in theory help decipher them. In practice, the final syllables of each line appear to be her/nap/-ill/love, which make no musical sense. - [[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] ([[User talk:Captain Video|talk]]) 16:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
The structure of the lyrics (four lines of equal length) suggests the standard A/B/A/B rhyme scheme, which could in theory help decipher them. In practice, the final syllables of each line appear to be her/nap/-ill/love, which make no musical sense. - [[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] ([[User talk:Captain Video|talk]]) 16:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
;Accesibility/Readibility
 
I'm pretty sure I've seen the Transcript changed several times, presumably by different people, encompassing representations of 1) what it wants to be in 'normal' text, 2) what it might consist of in Unicode and 3) a compromise version of what it looks like in (mostly) non-Unicode.  (As it currently stands, I still have character-missing symbols, in the transcript, on my particular platform.)  Can I suggest that the transcript (and elsewhere where such things are quoted?) maybe uses something like the pattern "FOO (''Bar'')" for each line, "FOO" being the best-guess full Unicode representation (for the visual effect, where it works) and "Bar", here italicised and in parenthises but other formats being available, being the best-guess original text (for readability, especially for people without full Unicode support).  Once the '''Attempt at translating''', above, has settled down, of course.  And how about doing the same for a 'readable' version of the Hovertext, too?  You shouldn't assume that everyone who comes here is as fully equipped, font-wise, as any other contributor (or even Randall) is.  Reducing to the 7-bit ASCII range of characters (i.e. #s 32-126) for the 'plaintext' version should be entirely possible and accessible to ''all'' current and future platforms, without any obvious limitations. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.48|141.101.99.48]] 22:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
How about a png of the alt text, for those of us who are installed-font-challenged? - toadhammer [[Special:Contributions/108.162.238.175|108.162.238.175]] 13:16, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 
 
;Lyric Deafness
 
As a person with Central Auditory Processing Disorder, the way Munroe described the way he hears lyrics struck a chord with me. Does anyone else relate?
 
 
As soon as I read this comic it perfectly described how I hear lyrics in basically all music, and my reaction was "oh, wow, it's not just me". I am quite musically inclined, and can play a few instruments and quite quickly learn how to play a song just be listening to it. I can also, for example, often recognize a song I haven't heard in 10 years in just a couple notes and hum along with it -- but on the flip side, I can hear a song once or twice a day for weeks, and still not even know more than a couple words in the chorus despite otherwise knowing the song note-for-note. I have to ''really'' concentrate to actually hear the words. I was surprised to see no explanation of this phenomenon here. I started searching and quickly came across the term "lyric deaf", and in fact, there have been many discussions about this that very accurately reflect my own feelings:
 
* http://ask.metafilter.com/154586/Why-cant-I-hear-lyrics
 
* http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/1eyche/i_cant_understand_lyrics_am_i_alone/
 
* http://cogsci.stackexchange.com/questions/85/why-are-some-people-unable-to-easily-memorize-the-lyrics-to-a-song
 
* http://www.quora.com/Is-there-such-a-thing-as-being-lyric-deaf
 
I added a couple sentences about this but it could probably use some good citations. People that are not themselves lyric deaf are likely unable to understand what this even means. {{unsigned|Groogs}}
 
 
: Me too.  In bands, I've even played songs countless times over many years, but couldn't tell you much of the lyrics.  They're the last thing my brain manages to analyze.  I've played songs that I really loved and then eventually learned the lyrics so I could sing them (if you could call what I do "singing") only to find the lyrics are cringe-worthy, or reveling in something I find abhorrent.  Ugh! [[Special:Contributions/172.68.189.169|172.68.189.169]] 17:37, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
;The worst is when it does not even help looking them up - example Four five seconds: http://www.directlyrics.com/rihanna-fourfiveseconds-lyrics.html {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.101}}
 

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