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Description seems heavily referential, without a clear or concise description of the mechanisms involved. Surely there is a psychological concept associated with this, rather than "that one scat jazz song" [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.166|108.162.219.166]] 06:40, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | Description seems heavily referential, without a clear or concise description of the mechanisms involved. Surely there is a psychological concept associated with this, rather than "that one scat jazz song" [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.166|108.162.219.166]] 06:40, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
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I feel like Randall is talking about all songs in this comic, not just ones where the singer favours "emotion, accent or style over clear pronunciation of the lyrics". I mean, has anyone ever listened to a song and immediately understood every single lyric on the first listen? I think that's the issue Randall is trying to express. [[User:Enchantedsleeper|Enchantedsleeper]] ([[User talk:Enchantedsleeper|talk]]) 14:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | I feel like Randall is talking about all songs in this comic, not just ones where the singer favours "emotion, accent or style over clear pronunciation of the lyrics". I mean, has anyone ever listened to a song and immediately understood every single lyric on the first listen? I think that's the issue Randall is trying to express. [[User:Enchantedsleeper|Enchantedsleeper]] ([[User talk:Enchantedsleeper|talk]]) 14:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
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I only have that after looking up the lyrics. (non-native english speaker). I think I somewhat agree with you. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.67|141.101.104.67]] 15:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC) | I only have that after looking up the lyrics. (non-native english speaker). I think I somewhat agree with you. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.67|141.101.104.67]] 15:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
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I'm pretty sure I've seen the Transcript changed several times, presumably by different people, encompassing representations of 1) what it wants to be in 'normal' text, 2) what it might consist of in Unicode and 3) a compromise version of what it looks like in (mostly) non-Unicode. (As it currently stands, I still have character-missing symbols, in the transcript, on my particular platform.) Can I suggest that the transcript (and elsewhere where such things are quoted?) maybe uses something like the pattern "FOO (''Bar'')" for each line, "FOO" being the best-guess full Unicode representation (for the visual effect, where it works) and "Bar", here italicised and in parenthises but other formats being available, being the best-guess original text (for readability, especially for people without full Unicode support). Once the '''Attempt at translating''', above, has settled down, of course. And how about doing the same for a 'readable' version of the Hovertext, too? You shouldn't assume that everyone who comes here is as fully equipped, font-wise, as any other contributor (or even Randall) is. Reducing to the 7-bit ASCII range of characters (i.e. #s 32-126) for the 'plaintext' version should be entirely possible and accessible to ''all'' current and future platforms, without any obvious limitations. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.48|141.101.99.48]] 22:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC) | I'm pretty sure I've seen the Transcript changed several times, presumably by different people, encompassing representations of 1) what it wants to be in 'normal' text, 2) what it might consist of in Unicode and 3) a compromise version of what it looks like in (mostly) non-Unicode. (As it currently stands, I still have character-missing symbols, in the transcript, on my particular platform.) Can I suggest that the transcript (and elsewhere where such things are quoted?) maybe uses something like the pattern "FOO (''Bar'')" for each line, "FOO" being the best-guess full Unicode representation (for the visual effect, where it works) and "Bar", here italicised and in parenthises but other formats being available, being the best-guess original text (for readability, especially for people without full Unicode support). Once the '''Attempt at translating''', above, has settled down, of course. And how about doing the same for a 'readable' version of the Hovertext, too? You shouldn't assume that everyone who comes here is as fully equipped, font-wise, as any other contributor (or even Randall) is. Reducing to the 7-bit ASCII range of characters (i.e. #s 32-126) for the 'plaintext' version should be entirely possible and accessible to ''all'' current and future platforms, without any obvious limitations. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.48|141.101.99.48]] 22:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
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* http://www.quora.com/Is-there-such-a-thing-as-being-lyric-deaf | * http://www.quora.com/Is-there-such-a-thing-as-being-lyric-deaf | ||
I added a couple sentences about this but it could probably use some good citations. People that are not themselves lyric deaf are likely unable to understand what this even means. {{unsigned|Groogs}} | I added a couple sentences about this but it could probably use some good citations. People that are not themselves lyric deaf are likely unable to understand what this even means. {{unsigned|Groogs}} | ||
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;The worst is when it does not even help looking them up - example Four five seconds: http://www.directlyrics.com/rihanna-fourfiveseconds-lyrics.html {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.101}} | ;The worst is when it does not even help looking them up - example Four five seconds: http://www.directlyrics.com/rihanna-fourfiveseconds-lyrics.html {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.101}} | ||
