Editing Talk:1729: Migrating Geese

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Kevin sounds familiar, has he been in a previous xkcd? [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 13:51, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

:I think Kevin is a reference to Home Alone. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.143|162.158.203.143]] 14:19, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: [[1719: Superzoom]] also includes Kevin.  [[User:Iggyvolz|Iggyvolz]] ([[User talk:Iggyvolz|talk]]) 14:22, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: Is it a reference to the famous Reddit Kevin? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/219w2o/whos_the_dumbest_person_youve_ever_met/cgbhkwp {{unsigned|Mcroft}}

: I thought it might be Kevin the Minion. [[User:Paddles|Paddles]] ([[User talk:Paddles|talk]]) 14:36, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: Perhaps it's just a generic name for the butt of a joke, like poor Steve. [[User:Papayaman1000|Papayaman1000]] ([[User talk:Papayaman1000|talk]]) 15:02, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: At least in Germany there is something called kevinism which assumes that kevin is a name which is only given to children of poorer social groups(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin#.E2.80.9EKevinismus.E2.80.9C). This is similar to what was mentioned as the reddit kevin. We'll probably have to wait for someone understanding the title text to be sure. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 15:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: A quick Google search found this [https://www.facebook.com/hartkevin/posts/10150488674027045|a Facebook post] from {{w|Kevin Hart}}; no idea if this is the reference, or the comic and Kevin Hart are both referencing an older joke.  [[User:Paddles|Paddles]] ([[User talk:Paddles|talk]]) 15:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: Probably a long shot, but "Dammit, Kevin" line sounds like a reference to Poorly Drawn Lines character Kevin (he's a bird, but I'm not sure that he's a goose). Check out this comic, for example: http://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/south/ --[[User:DefaultLocale|DefaultLocale]] ([[User talk:DefaultLocale|talk]]) 16:41, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: I immediately thought of Kevin as the bird from Up. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.95|108.162.246.95]] 16:55, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

I think "Missing valence geese" refers to electron configuration, where they would give/take electrons to become "stable". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.49.66|162.158.49.66]] 14:34, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

: I thought so too and added it in the table during my edit. It's not a very good explanation though as I'm not a native English speaker. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 15:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

This is my first contribution here so I hope I didn't do too many things wrong, I thought if there's nothing there yet I can't break too much. Thanks for fixing the table, it looks much better now :) I don't know why you removed the part about programming though, because while it's maybe normal that geese migrate it is definitely not normal to have a guide ("Migrating") on doing so. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 14:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Edit: Goose also is a network protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Substation_Events#Generic_Object_Oriented_Substation_Events_.28GOOSE.29) which would further support that it plays on the technical kind of migration. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 15:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
:Maybe it is ALSO about programming, but I do not think it is first and foremost about programming. I'm not sure what you mean about the having a guide? There is no goose designated guide? If there is some goose whose label refers directly to programming then maybe that could be explained in the table. Or later down the line after explaining goose migration. Apart from Kevin this looks very much like real geese migrating, with one arm often longer than the other and often a few birds flying inside the V. And no problem to fix the table, just found another table and copy pasted from that ;-) And hope you will add more to this wiki. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:00, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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 Kevin sounds familiar, has he been in a previous xkcd? [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 13:51, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 :I think Kevin is a reference to Home Alone. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.203.143|162.158.203.143]] 14:19, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : [[1719: Superzoom]] also includes Kevin.  [[User:Iggyvolz|Iggyvolz]] ([[User talk:Iggyvolz|talk]]) 14:22, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
-::See [[1795:_All_You_Can_Eat#Kevin|Kevin]] trivia from when it was used for a third time --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 : Is it a reference to the famous Reddit Kevin? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/219w2o/whos_the_dumbest_person_youve_ever_met/cgbhkwp {{unsigned|Mcroft}}
 : I thought it might be Kevin the Minion. [[User:Paddles|Paddles]] ([[User talk:Paddles|talk]]) 14:36, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : Perhaps it's just a generic name for the butt of a joke, like poor Steve. [[User:Papayaman1000|Papayaman1000]] ([[User talk:Papayaman1000|talk]]) 15:02, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : At least in Germany there is something called kevinism which assumes that kevin is a name which is only given to children of poorer social groups(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin#.E2.80.9EKevinismus.E2.80.9C). This is similar to what was mentioned as the reddit kevin. We'll probably have to wait for someone understanding the title text to be sure. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 15:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : A quick Google search found this [https://www.facebook.com/hartkevin/posts/10150488674027045|a Facebook post] from {{w|Kevin Hart}}; no idea if this is the reference, or the comic and Kevin Hart are both referencing an older joke.  [[User:Paddles|Paddles]] ([[User talk:Paddles|talk]]) 15:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : Probably a long shot, but "Dammit, Kevin" line sounds like a reference to Poorly Drawn Lines character Kevin (he's a bird, but I'm not sure that he's a goose). Check out this comic, for example: http://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/south/ --[[User:DefaultLocale|DefaultLocale]] ([[User talk:DefaultLocale|talk]]) 16:41, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : I immediately thought of Kevin as the bird from Up. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.95|108.162.246.95]] 16:55, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
-:: Same here.  http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Kevin. [[User:Iggynelix|Iggynelix]] ([[User talk:Iggynelix|talk]]) 11:54, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
-:I assumed that 'Kevin' was a reference to the novel 'We Need to Talk About Kevin'{{unsigned ip|162.158.222.217}}
-:I think a bunch of people have hit the nail on the head - the "reddit kevin", the "butt of a joke", the "kevinism" thing.. aside from the link to the original "reddit Kevin", there's also a subreddit based on other "Kevin"s. https://www.reddit.com/r/storiesaboutkevin  [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.193|141.101.70.193]] 22:34, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
-:I think it's more likely that 'Kevin' is a South Park reference. https://youtu.be/OyqdoxTEmdg [[User:Calion|Calion]] ([[User talk:Calion|talk]]) 01:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
-:I'm 90% sure that Kevin is a reference to an Eddie Izzard skit about migrating birds. He's talking about how migrating birds find their way, but Kevin gets lost and all the other birds just follow him, assuming that he knows where he is going. But it's years since I last watched it and I can't even remember which show it's in. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.41|141.101.98.41]] 07:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
-::No, I'm pretty sure the butt of the joke in the Izzard skit is "Steve the Bird". Unless he used different names at different times for the same skit, or unless my memory's totally wrong, both perfectly possible. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.43|108.162.229.43]] 08:22, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
-:Apparently Kevin is also the codename for [http://chromeunboxed.com/new-convertible-chromebook-kevin-in-early-production-what-we-know-so-far/ a new Chromebook]. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.133.114|162.158.133.114]] 11:54, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
-:I know of two fictional Kevins and both of them are jerks. Maybe this is a wider social thing.
 I think "Missing valence geese" refers to electron configuration, where they would give/take electrons to become "stable". [[Special:Contributions/162.158.49.66|162.158.49.66]] 14:34, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 : I thought so too and added it in the table during my edit. It's not a very good explanation though as I'm not a native English speaker. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 15:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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 Edit: Goose also is a network protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Substation_Events#Generic_Object_Oriented_Substation_Events_.28GOOSE.29) which would further support that it plays on the technical kind of migration. [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 15:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 :Maybe it is ALSO about programming, but I do not think it is first and foremost about programming. I'm not sure what you mean about the having a guide? There is no goose designated guide? If there is some goose whose label refers directly to programming then maybe that could be explained in the table. Or later down the line after explaining goose migration. Apart from Kevin this looks very much like real geese migrating, with one arm often longer than the other and often a few birds flying inside the V. And no problem to fix the table, just found another table and copy pasted from that ;-) And hope you will add more to this wiki. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 16:00, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
-::I understand what you mean now, it's obviously showing the animals described as "migrating geese". I for some reason thought it's meant like "Installing Internet Explorer on Linux", not as a description but as a guide title/process (stress on migrating, not on geese). Like that you're obviously right, I just had the wrong approach and couldn't think around it. Good that there's explainXKCD. It's cause I'm dumb. :) [[User:Treed|Treed]] ([[User talk:Treed|talk]]) 17:20, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
-The quarterback is usually in the second row of an American football formation like the associated goose.{{unsigned ip|172.68.18.239}}
-You would think Randal would have made a reference to Ramanujan, since this is the 1729th comic, yet he doesn't. --[[User:Jessep13|Jessep13]] ([[User talk:Jessep13|talk]]) 22:52, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
-:Because of {{w|Taxicab number}}'s... Well it's a very small audience and has he referenced him before? There may be an obscure reference to him in [[599: Apocalypse]], but not directly. So I think it's not strange, but funny reading so thanks ;-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:36, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
-Any idea what the 'comptroller' is doing in the formation? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.49|108.162.229.49]]
-:crewing the comptrols, clearly. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.208|172.69.34.208]] 20:25, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
-In Europe, Kevin is a name, but it also became an insult in gaming community as someone who's is like an arrogant child, or a noob that don't understand what he's doing.{{unsigned ip|108.162.229.112}}
-'Damnit Kevin' is a meme. It is used when something goes wrong or someone is really dump. There is also a youth word/name "Alpha Kevin" meant as an insult (like King of idiots). See: http://9gag.com/gag/aqZn9yp/god-f-king-damnit-kevin, http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dammit%20Kevin!, https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/40gzbl/damnit_kevin/ and more {{unsigned ip|162.158.85.9}}
-Am I the only one that was hoping for a taxicab number comic? Anyways, I don't see any special meaning to "forth in line for the throne" (as in, who is 1st, 2nd, 3rd). [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.231|162.158.126.231]] 01:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
-I am almost certain that Kevin is a reference to the character from the comic Poorly drawn lines, that is the first thing that popped into my head and Randall lists it under "comics I enjoy" http://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/kevins-ideas/ He is a bird that often does silly things to kick off the plot of the comic, and Kevin split off from the group of migrating birds sounds just like the start of a Poorly Drawn lines comic.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.55.72|172.68.55.72]] 11:13, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
-It might bee that Randall stumbled over [http://fromberkshiretobuckingham.blogspot.de/2016/07/princess-charlotte-prince-george-feed.html this paparazzi photo] of Princess Charlotte [[User:Bmuenzer|Bmuenzer]] ([[User talk:Bmuenzer|talk]]) 08:38, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
-The incomplete notification mentioned the possibility of slang related to royalty and the phrase "Head Goose." I Googled the phrase in tandem with the word "Britain;" no relevant results came up. --[[User:OriginalName|OriginalName]] ([[User talk:OriginalName|talk]]) 04:53, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
-Randall spelling 'dammit' with two m's could be a reference to the title text of [https://xkcd.com/559]. [[User:84596Gamma|84596Gamma]] ([[User talk:84596Gamma|talk]]) 18:52, 8 August 2023 (UTC)