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My first time providing an explanation and transcript! For once I'm early enough, understand the joke, AND had time! LOL! Be kind... :)
 
My first time providing an explanation and transcript! For once I'm early enough, understand the joke, AND had time! LOL! Be kind... :)
  
(Hey, if I had an account would I still have to do those damned Captchas?) - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.227|162.158.126.227]] 06:54, 7 December 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. (And WEIRD timing, I only just noticed a few minutes ago my newly earned freedom from Captchas, having signed up like 4 days ago and having gone around re-signing my comments like this) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 03:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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(Hey, if I had an account would I still have to do those damned Captchas?) - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.227|162.158.126.227]] 06:54, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:I assume your account would have to be autoconfirmed. That means its having over a certain "age" and over a certain edit count. I think the age is a couple of days and the edit threshold is fifteen, though this wiki may have those values configured differently. <span style="background:#0064de;font-size:12px;padding:4px 12px;border-radius:8px;">[[User talk:AgentMuffin|<span style="color:#f0faff;">~AgentMuffin</span>]]</span>
 
:I assume your account would have to be autoconfirmed. That means its having over a certain "age" and over a certain edit count. I think the age is a couple of days and the edit threshold is fifteen, though this wiki may have those values configured differently. <span style="background:#0064de;font-size:12px;padding:4px 12px;border-radius:8px;">[[User talk:AgentMuffin|<span style="color:#f0faff;">~AgentMuffin</span>]]</span>
  
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: It is the go-to example of a film that 'everyone' has seen. Added a not to this effect, although I feel it could be better phrased. Surprised TVTropes doesn't have a page on this. [[User:Luckykaa|Luckykaa]] ([[User talk:Luckykaa|talk]]) 12:34, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
: It is the go-to example of a film that 'everyone' has seen. Added a not to this effect, although I feel it could be better phrased. Surprised TVTropes doesn't have a page on this. [[User:Luckykaa|Luckykaa]] ([[User talk:Luckykaa|talk]]) 12:34, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:: Fan Myopia is the assumption that a work you like is more popular than it is.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.177|141.101.98.177]] 15:21, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:: Fan Myopia is the assumption that a work you like is more popular than it is.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.177|141.101.98.177]] 15:21, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
:: Although Fan Myopia is more for obscure works; when someone is ignorant of a well-known work it's Popcultural Osmosis Failure.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.229|162.158.154.229]] 14:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 
  
 
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I added a few speculations about the number of people who actually have seen the movies (or one of them). If someone find a decent reference feel free to edit that. I also noticed one word play, not sure if it should be explained or not, but probably. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.80.89|141.101.80.89]] 09:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
I added a few speculations about the number of people who actually have seen the movies (or one of them). If someone find a decent reference feel free to edit that. I also noticed one word play, not sure if it should be explained or not, but probably. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.80.89|141.101.80.89]] 09:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
:The issue with the numbers is that making them worldwide seems to miss the point and ends up being rather misleading. After all, any third world country is likely to have roughly 0 viewers, which brings the statistics down. It has been my impression that the feeling that everybody has seen Star Wars is a very North American thing, especially in America. And the cast of XKCD generally seem to reside in America. Of the billion people estimated viewers, I suspect a FAR higher percentage of them are North American than the precentage of North Americans to the world population (in other words, North America is over-represented in that billion). In the end, the assumption that everybody you encounter while in North America has seen them is actually a fairly reasonably assumption, while a percentage of 15% makes it sound like it's not. Also, there's the implied qualifier of opportunity. Cueball could easily have chosen to watch the films at some point, while there are many people worldwide for whom it has never been an option. And this comic is more about choosing not to, exercising their default option as it were. :) - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.227|162.158.126.227]] 04:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 03:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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:The issue with the numbers is that making them worldwide seems to miss the point and ends up being rather misleading. After all, any third world country is likely to have roughly 0 viewers, which brings the statistics down. It has been my impression that the feeling that everybody has seen Star Wars is a very North American thing, especially in America. And the cast of XKCD generally seem to reside in America. Of the billion people estimated viewers, I suspect a FAR higher percentage of them are North American than the precentage of North Americans to the world population (in other words, North America is over-represented in that billion). In the end, the assumption that everybody you encounter while in North America has seen them is actually a fairly reasonably assumption, while a percentage of 15% makes it sound like it's not. Also, there's the implied qualifier of opportunity. Cueball could easily have chosen to watch the films at some point, while there are many people worldwide for whom it has never been an option. And this comic is more about choosing not to, exercising their default option as it were. :) - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.227|162.158.126.227]] 04:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::The author above did mention that distinction but didn't supply any numbers so I took that part out. If we can get a good estimate of the proportion of Americans who have watched the movies then yes, let's use that. [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] ([[User talk:Jkshapiro|talk]]) 13:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::The author above did mention that distinction but didn't supply any numbers so I took that part out. If we can get a good estimate of the proportion of Americans who have watched the movies then yes, let's use that. [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] ([[User talk:Jkshapiro|talk]]) 13:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
  
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:When a jedi dies, there is no body. He instantly becomes a Force ghost and vanishes. [[User:Jacky720|That's right, Jacky720 just signed this]] ([[User talk:Jacky720|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacky720|contribs]]) 22:24, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 
:When a jedi dies, there is no body. He instantly becomes a Force ghost and vanishes. [[User:Jacky720|That's right, Jacky720 just signed this]] ([[User talk:Jacky720|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacky720|contribs]]) 22:24, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 
::Not usually. There's only four Jedi in the core canon shown to have achieved that, and only Obi-Wan and Yoda are actually depicted immediately vanishing. Vader may also eat Jedi alive. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.64|141.101.98.64]] 11:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 
::Not usually. There's only four Jedi in the core canon shown to have achieved that, and only Obi-Wan and Yoda are actually depicted immediately vanishing. Vader may also eat Jedi alive. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.64|141.101.98.64]] 11:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
:::As of The Last Jedi, post-dating your comment, it shown that <spoiler> does that too... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.22|172.70.86.22]] 19:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 
  
 
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It's missing any comment on the "superpower" bit.  I'm not sure where to add it and kind of rushed now, so I just leave this note to maybe prod someone else...  [[User:MAP|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP|talk]]) 16:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 
It's missing any comment on the "superpower" bit.  I'm not sure where to add it and kind of rushed now, so I just leave this note to maybe prod someone else...  [[User:MAP|MAP]] ([[User talk:MAP|talk]]) 16:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
:I was wondering about that, too. In fact, I was particularly looking for an explanation for the claim that "Not doing things is (a) superpower". I conclude that it can't be related in any way to Star Wars (I belong to the 85%), or else someone ''would'' have metioned it. It seems like a simple, slightly sarcastic joke to me, but, as the editors here have so much more insight into xkcd, I'm probably missing some deeper meaning here? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.250.221|172.70.250.221]] 12:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 
  
  
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I used to be like Cueball. And then I ''grew the hell up'' and realized that avoiding good movies is the least normal thing of all[[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.72|162.158.255.72]] 21:57, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 
I used to be like Cueball. And then I ''grew the hell up'' and realized that avoiding good movies is the least normal thing of all[[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.72|162.158.255.72]] 21:57, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 
May the sauce be with you.  [[User:Mushrooms|Mushrooms]] ([[User talk:Mushrooms|talk]]) 07:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 

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