Talk:1787: Voice Commands

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Revision as of 13:01, 19 January 2017 by (talk) (vocal chord)
Jump to: navigation, search converts "svat ussupd ;dlh a kdbk" to "okay google send a text"-- 16:38, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

    Well that's a much easier way of converting it than my method of looking at two keyboards. 16:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
    I think that's just for US keyboards. I get different results trying that on a UK QWERTY keyboard Jdluk (talk) 16:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
The opposite way of typing QWERTY on Dvorak gives the even less pronounceable "RTAF IRRIN. O.BE A Y.QY". –TisTheAlmondTavern, 12:38, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

The QWERTY layout is to slow typists down is an enduring myth. In the early days there were typing competitions (with big prizes) to find the fastest typist and fastest machine. This was won by QWERTY in the English world and AZERTY in the French one. Other languages may vary.

The avoid a clash reason (as users of manual machines know) is shown up by the common Left Right Left sequence of "the" and the many letter pairs in English of "er" which are adjacent left fingers and often caused me jams!

Other layouts and designs may have benefits, but will never become the default - a bit like Esperanto methinks ;-) RIIW - Ponder it (talk) 18:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

"In the early days" typewriters would jam easily, so of course a layout that for the most part avoided that would be fastest way back then. Just because the layout still had jamming problems doesn't mean it wouldn't come out on top. Touchtyping (a more recent development than QWERTY) makes QWERTY uncomfortable to use at speed, but the pretty much random nature of the layout makes life easier for spell checking software (a more recent development than Dvorak) than Dvorak. 23:43, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I have only typed Dvorak since 1991, currently on a TypeMatrix 2030DV. Since I have pretty much forgotten Qwerty, I had to look at my wife's laptop to find the letters. Back and forth looking at the comic, it took me a minute to translate that in Notepad.  ;-) I can do about 90 wpm in DV. Friends don't let friends type Qwerty! TrueFalcon (talk) 17:10, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Dvorak? pfft. I use butterflies 23:52, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
  • As a fellow Dvorak user, I think comments like these are the reason we keep getting comics about us. 18:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
    • I can practically guarantee it. Especially since actual studies on the subject suggest it's more ability and practice that improve typing speed rather than what layout is used. --KingStarscream (talk) 20:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

The hovertext should say "vocal cords," right? Not "chords"? 18:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I've heard there are people who can sing more than one note at a time - a real vocal chord. 23:47, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
I suppose it might be a deliberate error, but, yes, "vocal chords" is incorrect: it should be "vocal cords" (i.e. strings), or even more correctly vocal folds. 09:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
A stenograph (as used by a court stenographer) is a keyboard where one presses several keys at a time, called a chord, so I think the hover text 'vocal chord' is a play on the idea of vocalising several 'keys' at once -- 13:01, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

The layout was intended to reduce jams, and was likely a trial and error process in development. The layout does in effect slow down the people of the day some, as for instance so many words are typed by left hand only, but this is likely unintentional. Notice that keys like the "I" and "O" are "together", but in fact are separated by three other key linkages, "K""," and "9", so pressing those didn't cause a jam as frequently when pressed in rapid succession, but nevertheless would have been faster had they been on opposite sides of the keyboard. Another point is that keyboarding was still visual at the time, so this keyboard mechanism never took into account the touch typing method that was developed a decade or so later. 19:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)