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I'm 41 years old, and I have never heard the usage of nauseous meaning causing nausea until today.  I speak American English. -- [[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon|talk]]) 17:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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First162.158.74.231 17:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Of course it's also possible that the food made them so Nauseated that they also became Nauseous (i.e. they could have started vomiting or smell horrible due to eating the food, causing people around to feel unwell as well). NormanR (talk) 21:13, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I believe the reason the two words have become confused is due to the word "noxious". which means "very unpleasant". So, someone who is "nauseated" could feel "noxious", and when wires end up crossed in the brain, they associate it with "nauseous" rather than "noxious". (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

But "noxious" means harmful, poisonous, unpleasant, which is different than "having an unpleasant feeling." Here again, the word "unpleasant" has undergone a shift in usage from "not pleasing" to something more like "displeased" as in the statement "I feel unpleasant," used to mean "I have an unpleasant feeling." 04:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Except that the secondary meaning of nauseous has been around for as long as the primary meaning. It is only recent pedantry that has tried to suppress the more ancient use. (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

I shall follow this argument with complete disinterest Arachrah (talk)

I looked up "Nauseous" in Dictionary.com and I found the following usage note:

"The two literal senses of nauseous, “causing nausea” ( a nauseous smell ) and “affected with nausea” ( to feel nauseous ), appear in English at almost the same time in the early 17th century, and both senses are in standard use at the present time. Nauseous is more common than nauseated in the sense “affected with nausea,” despite recent objections by those who imagine the sense to be new. In the sense “causing nausea,” either literally or figuratively, nauseating has become more common than nauseous : a nauseating smell."

So, originally, it seems Nauseous was used to refer to both the object that causes the nausea, as well as the feeling. So this is not really a case of change of use, but more your typical snobbish people trying to appear smarter by correcting other people's language usage. The spirit of the comic remains, though. Source (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

does randall read oots?...

...because the actual oots-strip contains "nauseous". (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

I'm 41 years old, and I have never heard the usage of nauseous meaning causing nausea until today. I speak American English. -- WhiteDragon (talk) 17:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)